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Posted 25 August 2009 - 04:19 PM

hello i have been taking adderall ir for 5 years only name brand ,now with barr making both name brand and generic their name brand is not at all the same as when i was taking it from the other manufacter shire. i have called them but they say it has the same active ingredents no way.this sucks and i didnt get them from walgreens,but i used to and had no problems.what are we to do now.

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 09:36 PM

Yeah im going back to brand names next month, these generics make me feel like complete shit.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 12:55 AM

YEAH PHARMA COMPANYS DO FUCK UP THE CHEMISTRY ON PILLS I DONT CARE WHAAT ANY ONE SAYS. I GOT 60 20MG GENERIC ADDERALL MADE BY COR PHARMA AND NOT ONE OUT OF THAT BOTTLE DID ANYTING EVEN GAVE SOME TO MY FRIENDS THAT TAKE ADDERALL AND KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND WOW DID NOTHING TO THEM EITHER.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 10:55 AM

View Postdarren, on 05 October 2009 - 12:55 AM, said:

YEAH PHARMA COMPANYS DO FUCK UP THE CHEMISTRY ON PILLS I DONT CARE WHAAT ANY ONE SAYS. I GOT 60 20MG GENERIC ADDERALL MADE BY COR PHARMA AND NOT ONE OUT OF THAT BOTTLE DID ANYTING EVEN GAVE SOME TO MY FRIENDS THAT TAKE ADDERALL AND KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND WOW DID NOTHING TO THEM EITHER.


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View Post., on 05 August 2008 - 10:55 PM, said:

...I was irritable, speedy, had a really bad headache, and more...This version actually made me want to concentrate less and do random things. I would take this version if I wanted a bunch of energy and perhaps as a performance enhancer. But that is not why I take Adderall. I take it to help me with my ADHD...


That explains so much! I've been taking d-amphetamine for about 4 months now, and it seems like each time I get the script filled, it's a different product (often different stores w/i the same chain). This time I got the little pink pills and it was HORRIBLE! Just like you said, I was speedy and would spend forever trying to write a simple e-mail. Last month the same script was filled with orange pills and were perfect. The dose was correct, it came on smooth and delivered for the expected time, and didn't kill me when I was coming down.

I started to think something was wrong with me. I'm going to go back to the store where I got the good ones. Thanks for the heads up. Just say no to the little pink pill!

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 06:10 AM

I am not saying I don't agree with the majority of previous postings but FYI Adderall is sometimes prescribed to individuals experiencing atipical reactions to medications normally prescribed for depression or similar disorders. Sometimes the stimulant properties of drugs such as Adderall, or even Wellbutrin (aka an atypical antidepressant) are significantly helpful in treating certain indiviuals suffering from disorders within this spectrum. Definetely agree with the eating-disorder theory but there is a lot more to it.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 07:55 AM

At first I thought my doctor gave me placebo when I took the 20mg BARR adderall...it literally did nothing to help me concentrate and it tasted like sugar. I prefer Eon Labs but my pharmacy stopped carrying it.

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View Postrenegade master, on 17 January 2008 - 02:19 AM, said:

ok i take it back. it kicked in with a bang. in fact, a bit too intense.. like meth almost.. perhaps i should try half a pill next time. thanks.


I should hope it did kick in. Ive been taking it for about 6 months and sometimes I get the non-generic form from my pharmacy I find I like the generics better.

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Hi, you definitely have to experiment to see what works for you, and I believe brand is stronger than generic. I'm pretty sure.
Anyway, I was on the XR, and I like it for long days such as yourself. It also feels purer, but it does not allw me to sleep well causing me stress it catches up with me.
So I am experimenting with IR. I take 8.25mgs in the morning, then 7.5 in 6hrs, and then if the day turns longer a small kick in the evening. 2.5
only expect super focust in the 4 hours after you take teh 2 big doses. I can sleep well, and its generic.
I also like to boost the 15 xr with 2.5 mg of ir in the morning and dedicate that to my activities which require concentration.
Haha i would like to have both on hand i'm keeping a log of effectes every day.
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Hello, It happened to me as well XR does not allow me to sleep. In the end it caugght up with me, and my ADD symptoms seemed worse since I lacked sleep. I take Xanax sometimes to sleep, but I don't like to do it all the time: I think it made me dopey.
Brand name is very expensive, but it is stronger. I've tried both the IR and XR brand. Lol the brand IR is really expensive, and feels diffrent.
I switched to IR, and I take some to start the day, and then I take another bumper dose to keep it going. This works well, and it is far easier to fall asleep. On an off day like a Sunday I will only take the morning dose. The aformentioned are the benefits. The downside is that if you take too big a dose of IR it can give you a headache--similar to cofee--but, I consider it a small price to pay for being able to control the times you need a strong dose. On me the strong dose is the morning. Similar to coffee drink the large amounts in the morning, and get things done. The second dose allows me to keep going.
The effect is not as clean with IR, the feeling is more in the head than in the body with the IR, but it wears off in about 5 hours, and I try not to take any too late. On XR it is almost as I can feel my heart thumping 10 hrs, but not so with IR.
The doctor recommended 10 mgs in the morning, and a second dose of 5 mgs, and a 3rd if needed of 5 mgs.
This seems a better option for me, I also feel more relaxed. Incidentally I only tried this because the high price of the XR propelled me to seek a lower cost alternative, because I lost my health insurance. I am keeping a daily log on Excel with doses and a scale from 1 to 10 on how it works, as well as notes.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:03 PM

Being that this is my first post around here (I just found this place a couple days ago) I didn't want to get off on the wrong foot and start a new thread when it didn't look needed, so hopefully someone reads this and can offer a little bit of help.

I graduated college last fall, and am currently studying for a graduate school entrance exam. While in college, I began to suspect that with some of my concentration and attention span issues, I might have some form of ADD, but as I was living 5 hours away from my family in a small town without a car (so I rarely went home except for major holiday breaks), I didn't really bring it up to my family or get it medically addressed. A couple friends of mine had been diagnosed with ADD earlier in their lives, and offered me some Adderall to try (highly illegal, yes I know), and I found that it worked great- I felt like I could actually be entirely productive, get my work done as needed, and really helped me feel "normal" when it came to taking care of my school business, as opposed to when I had struggled before. I only ended up taking it from my friends a couple of times, for major deadlines or exams, as I didn't want to get hooked on anything and I decided to talk to a doctor on my own to seriously try and address my issue.

A couple of months ago, I did finally see a doctor about it, and after trying Concerta and Vyvanse (neither of which did anything for me) she prescribed me Adderall. I'm currently taking Adderall IR, but it honestly doesn't feel like it works nearly the same as how I remembered in college. It's the generic form (the Amphetamine Salts), 15 mg, and it's an orange circle, manufactured by "Barr" company.

The Adderall I sometimes took in college was 20 mg, pink (almost a bright pink), circular, and had a "+" on one side, dividing the pill into four quarters (I usually only took one half of a pill at a time, as that was all I needed to get the desired effects for a few hours of work). I don't know what exact brand that was though. This was also in 2008 and 2009, so it was fairly recent if that helps any.

Would anybody know what brand that pink kind with the "+" design was? I've asked the pharmacist if anybody ever complains about generic's effectiveness vs brand or what, but of course she says nobody ever does, it's the same active ingredients, etc. And I obviously can't mention that I took someone else's Adderall prescription when I had yet to be diagnosed. So I feel boxed in here, when all I want is a clue to what brand or form of Adderall that kind of pill was, and then hopefully I can find it at a nearby drug store and be able to purchase it on my own with my next prescription.

Thank you to anyone who reads this, and anyone who can offer any suggestions/advice/help.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 03:41 PM

View PostTurdFerguson, on 09 June 2010 - 06:03 PM, said:

A couple of months ago, I did finally see a doctor about it, and after trying Concerta and Vyvanse (neither of which did anything for me) she prescribed me Adderall. I'm currently taking Adderall IR, but it honestly doesn't feel like it works nearly the same as how I remembered in college. It's the generic form (the Amphetamine Salts), 15 mg, and it's an orange circle, manufactured by "Barr" company.


Studying for an exam or trying to pull an all-nighter, I'd hazard a guess that you were washing down the borrowed Adderall with black coffee? What are you taking the daily dose with? (Helpful hint from the patient information sheet: pH counts)
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 06:40 PM

View PostTurdFerguson, on 09 June 2010 - 06:03 PM, said:

Would anybody know what brand that pink kind with the "+" design was? I've asked the pharmacist if anybody ever complains about generic's effectiveness vs brand or what, but of course she says nobody ever does, it's the same active ingredients, etc. And I obviously can't mention that I took someone else's Adderall prescription when I had yet to be diagnosed.

Those would be CorePharma's IR. There's a lot of bitching on the Intertubes about the noticeable differences between Barr and CorePharma (mostly people preferring Barr, but my point is simply that you wouldn't be the first to feel they aren't quite the same).

Walgreens apparently stocks only CorePharma, so if you've got one around you, problem solved.

But you can always call a pharmacy ahead of time to ask which manufacturer they use (I've done it; nevermind if they seem surprised you're asking, no need to justify yourself to the tech who answers the phone).

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: OK. Looked up drug images; there's more than one that might reasonably fit your description. If this is what you remember -- then it's Shire (the original brand), and I have no idea if they're even making it anymore. If this is what you remember -- that's indeed the CorePharma.

Good luck.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 08:49 PM

First, thanks to you guys both for replying so quickly.

View Postnull0trooper, on 10 June 2010 - 03:41 PM, said:

Studying for an exam or trying to pull an all-nighter, I'd hazard a guess that you were washing down the borrowed Adderall with black coffee? What are you taking the daily dose with? (Helpful hint from the patient information sheet: pH counts)

Ah no, I don't drink coffee. I've never liked the taste and caffeine doesn't do it for me (Red Bulls and Monster type energy drinks usually give me an almost instant "crash" effect).

When I take my current Adderall, I just drink it with water.

View PostKatyusha, on 10 June 2010 - 06:40 PM, said:

Those would be CorePharma's IR. There's a lot of bitching on the Intertubes about the noticeable differences between Barr and CorePharma (mostly people preferring Barr, but my point is simply that you wouldn't be the first to feel they aren't quite the same).

Walgreens apparently stocks only CorePharma, so if you've got one around you, problem solved.

But you can always call a pharmacy ahead of time to ask which manufacturer they use (I've done it; nevermind if they seem surprised you're asking, no need to justify yourself to the tech who answers the phone).

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: OK. Looked up drug images; there's more than one that might reasonably fit your description. If this is what you remember -- then it's Shire (the original brand), and I have no idea if they're even making it anymore. If this is what you remember -- that's indeed the CorePharma.

Good luck.

Hmm, yeah, judging by the pictures, it looks like it was the CorePharma IR pills. It was a very bright pink. The Shire brand looks a little duller in color.

I try not to read too much into the debates between brands before I've tried them myself, since I don't want to get any kind of preconceived notion about what might work for me and what won't work, if that makes any sense. I'd rather just test them myself, as like I said earlier, I'm in this to get this issue resolved for my own good.
There's actually a Walgreens right up the street from me (with a pretty cute, young pharmacist ;)) , so when I get my next prescription, I'll try them out. I wasn't very fond of my Publix's pharmacy anyway; they seemed somewhat hostile towards me asking questions about the different brands and generic forms (which I understand a little, I can't be asking around with the intention to get the right kind to sell on the street).

Thanks for the help though. It's not that the current Adderall from Barr doesn't work at all, it's just not to the level I expect compared to what I've experienced before (and for what I pay for it with my current crappy insurance), and it would make sense that my friends used CorePharma brand, as there was a Walgreen's right across the street from our apartment complex.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:46 PM

I talked to my doctor and got my new prescription for the month, and she prescribed me 30 mg (taking 1/2 in the morning, 1/2 in the afternoon). Had the prescription filled at my local Walgreen's and received the pink Corepharma tablets instead of the Barr/Teva tablets.

Took my first dosage of it this morning, and the second dosage a few hours later (an entire 30 mg tablet) and nothing. No reaction at all, good or bad. I didn't want to overstimulate myself or do anything hasty, so I didn't take any more. Since my last posting, I've read that many people feel that the Corepharma brand tablets are cheaply made and either give them really bad side effects (headaches, stomach pains, fatigue, etc.), or they don't do anything at all and might as well be simple sugar pills.

But I know this is what I've taken before (bright pink color, "+" design across the back of the tablet), with great results. But for whatever reason, this isn't working for me now.

Could it be that when I was taking the 20 mg dosage before, in college, that it was somehow different than how the 30 mg is made? I know that doesn't make any sense, as a 30 mg tablet from the same manufacturer would be the exact same as a 20 mg, just with slightly stronger ingredients. But I honestly can't think of what could be different.

Prior to this, I've been on about a month and a half routine of Barr brand generic adderall (15 mg, 2 in the morning/afternoon, another 2 at night if needed for studying/work). So sometimes I was taking up to 45 or 60 mg within a 24 hour span. Has my tolerance maybe gone up, in that short of a time period? I'm truthfully skeptical of that possibility as well, but I really don't know.

Or does my body need to "adjust" to the Corepharma tablets compared to being used to the Barr tablets?

Any help or insight would be really appreciated. I'm actually taking the GRE exam in about 2 weeks, so I'd like to get this straightened out as soon as possible.

I'm a complete loss at trying to understand how the exact same medicine could work for me as recently as a year ago, but when I take it now, it doesn't do anything at all. I really think I might be crazy here.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:28 AM

Been on 80 a day ir going to try brand this time will let you know

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 06:03 PM

Your first mistake was going to Walgreens. They and now CVS too, only carry the round pink, less effective 30 mg tabs.
These are made with a "compressed sugar" base. So if you're hypoglyceimic , like I am, your blood sugar's going to crash - fast.
Also, the pink ones are only rated B by the FDA. They suck.

Walmart carries the oval orange 30 mg tabs that are rated AB by the FDA, and work better, lasting longer.

You should also get the "Coast to Coast Rx Discount Card". A prescription for 60/30mgs should only cost you $22.60.

Good Luck.


View Postrenegade master, on 17 January 2008 - 01:40 AM, said:

Hi,

It seems like it's been almost a year from when this topic was discussed (i found it on google search for adderall IR). Anyway, I have a question on adderall, so if anyone reads, here it goes:

Is there a difference between brand adderall IR vs. generic in terms of quality and effectiveness? I was previously on Adderall XR, and honestly I'm quite comfortable with the XR, very smooth, kicks in about 30-40 mins, hardly can tell when it wears out. In fact, that "hardly can tell when it wears out" part was the reason I switched to IR today for trial at least. I used to take XR 30 mg early in the morning, but I could hardly fall asleep at night. It lasted too long, although the peak effects were gone after 6-8 hours. To be honest, I loved XR especially on days i worked on tv/film sets where your work day is anywhere from 12 to 16 long draining hours.. But not every day I do that and sometimes I had shorter days, so I decided to try IR.. I actually wanted to try dexedrine (i dont know how different) because it's supposed to last as long with immediate release but last about 6 hours or so (relatively shorter) on extended release spansules, and supposed to be a bit more intense throughout since it's a bit more potent from what i read. she was going to prescribe me that but then for some reason changed her mind and said try adderall IR instead using a few maneuvering excuses, so I got prescribed 60 x 30mg adderall IR, 2x30mg a day. This is actually twice the dose than i was taking before, because i was previously taking 1x30mg XR. So i actually expected even some euphoric peak when i was taking it. but even though it's been an hour since i took my 30mg IR, i feel nothing. It's yet to kick in, but it hasn't. Could it have anything with it being generic instead of brand adderall? I was going to buy brand adderall but the pharmacy didn't have that many adderall 30 mg in stock, they said they have generic, and i asked whether it would work exactly the same, they said it will because it's the same ingredients. it doesn't have any generic brand name on it, it only says "dextroamphetamine/amphetamine salt combo" and from walgreens. could it be the factor why it hasn't worked so far. i took it late at night tonight because i need to do late night editing work.

i liked the fact that 60 pills cost me $70, vs. 30 XR pills of same dose (30mg) had cost me $150+ in walgreens (or $124 at vons' pharmacy instead), but i hope lack of effectiveness is not the payoff with generic.

thanks.


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The generic you got from Walgreens in my opinion is horrible. Do an internet search and there are literally articles devoted to complaints regarding this version of adderall. It is a pink pill. I started a few months ago on generic Adderall from Eon labs which worked good. However, I went to Walgreens last week to fill my new prescription for this month and got those. I figured they would work the same but I was wrong...huge difference. I was irritable, speedy, had a really bad headache, and more...

This version actually made me want to concentrate less and do random things. I would take this version if I wanted a bunch of energy and perhaps as a performance enhancer. But that is not why I take Adderall. I take it to help me with my ADHD.

Anyways, this incident prompted me to not bother with any of the generic forms and just pay the extra co-pay for the brand name IR 30mg. My pharmacy had to special order it because virtually no pharmacy carries the name brand on hand. It will come in a few days and I'm sure it will be better than the cheap pink ones.

FYI, for some reason I don't really trust the company that makes these generic pink ones. They are a small company and obviously have to make the drug very cheap. The FDA is also significantly less stringent on generic drugs. They are allowed by law to be less pure than the name brand. Also, who do you think is actually regulating and enforcing these guidelines on these cheap companies? What do they do; go to the factory every day and observe? Highly unlikely.


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Walgreens, yes was always there to be trusted. Did someone (China?) Buy them out or something. They are just terrible to deal with anymore. First cannot get through to local pharmacy where I pick up my meds. When calling it is sent to a "sweatshop" bank of phone answerers, most do not have English as their first language.
Often, I just have to say thanks, goodbye, call back again to try and get a refill, hoping to be able to communicate with whomever answers (in Orlando area) for Florida. Been hating this for months, would change to CVS except they do not seem top notch either.
Took my Rx , that my doctor had written , name brand only, for Adderal 10mg. They said, oh we only have a few of those, then you can't pick up the rest, once you accept these, because controlled drug.
So I reluctantly agreed to their generic, that CorePharma , I see so many complain about.

You can imagine, that a sleezy factory who has a shipment of amphetamine, pockets the active drug, for Themselves, it obviously does Not go into the pills I purchased.

I tried to "get through" to the grumpy pharmacist, that this whole months worth is , worthless. He babbles that its approved by FDA, his pat answer, says cannot exchange........ too bad for me, thats just tough.
What a Racket WALGREENS, you have become CRAP!
Please anyone, What pharmacy would you recommend I start using? I really need help here. Convenience doesn't matter anymore, Walgreens is out for Walgreens only, still living off their once trusted name.
Any generic adderall good quality? So frustrating. I actually think they pack caffeine into the pills, not the adderall ingredients.

This whole Generic thing has got to be looked into...... Americans are being cheated. And also I depend on thyroid medicine, since no longer have functioning thyroid. I tried generic, and it was as if it was totally fake, I was getting sicker and sicker, people are actually being harmed, those who depend and trust these drugstores.
Can any drug stores be TRUSTED anymore, CVS, Walmart, etc.

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