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Posted 18 May 2009 - 12:46 AM

I'm on 4mgs of Klonopin already and I don't get relief. I'm still anxious, agitated and I still can't sleep. I'm also taking Remeron for the meantime to squash depression.
ANybody know why it's like this? 4mg is pretty high, isn't it?
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 02:55 AM

Are you sure you're not mixed/dysphoric? If you are, the Remeron may not be helping things. You might need to talk to your pdoc about another mood stabilizer/AP at least temporarily to get you sleeping and calm again.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 08:16 AM

I'm already on both of those two and still no relief. I don't know what to do. I texted pdoc about raising my lamictal but he hasn't answered yet.
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a misfortune is a tragedy,
a joy is an ecstasy,
a friend is a lover,
a lover is a god,
and failure is death.
Add to this cruelly delicate organism the overpowering necessity to create, create, create - so that without the creating of music or poetry or books or buildings or something of meaning, his very breath is cut off from him. He must create, must pour out creation. By some strange, unknown, inward urgency he is not really alive unless he is creating." -Pearl S. Buck


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Posted 18 May 2009 - 08:34 AM

lamictal's not great for mania, and if it's mania over anxiety (which it could be), a raise in lamictal might not help. another more sedating AP or a mood stabilizer might be necessary, i don't know. i hope your pdoc calls back. you need something to help you regulate your sleep and calm you down.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 06:49 PM

View Postpapertrees, on May 18 2009, 03:46 PM, said:

I'm on 4mgs of Klonopin already and I don't get relief. I'm still anxious, agitated and I still can't sleep. I'm also taking Remeron for the meantime to squash depression.
ANybody know why it's like this? 4mg is pretty high, isn't it?

4mg is a fair dose of Klonopin.

You are on quite a cocktail. I wouldnt want to suggest anything in terms of changes without a greater understanding of what each med is being used for.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 07:32 PM

My pdoc never replied! I asked him about raising the lamictal but so far, nothing. I'm under observation this week, because if I don't improve, i'll be confined by force.
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a sound is a noise,
a misfortune is a tragedy,
a joy is an ecstasy,
a friend is a lover,
a lover is a god,
and failure is death.
Add to this cruelly delicate organism the overpowering necessity to create, create, create - so that without the creating of music or poetry or books or buildings or something of meaning, his very breath is cut off from him. He must create, must pour out creation. By some strange, unknown, inward urgency he is not really alive unless he is creating." -Pearl S. Buck


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Posted 18 May 2009 - 07:35 PM

Darn, I'm sorry pdoc never got back to you.

Did you see my previous post in your other topic about the Klono? It's worth considering, seriously.
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 12:39 AM

View Posttryp, on May 19 2009, 08:35 AM, said:

Darn, I'm sorry pdoc never got back to you.

Did you see my previous post in your other topic about the Klono? It's worth considering, seriously.

What previous post? I don't recall. Sorry..
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a sound is a noise,
a misfortune is a tragedy,
a joy is an ecstasy,
a friend is a lover,
a lover is a god,
and failure is death.
Add to this cruelly delicate organism the overpowering necessity to create, create, create - so that without the creating of music or poetry or books or buildings or something of meaning, his very breath is cut off from him. He must create, must pour out creation. By some strange, unknown, inward urgency he is not really alive unless he is creating." -Pearl S. Buck


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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:56 AM

Sorry - I should probably have just reposted it.

I just said that Klono can make some people feel depressed, and you're taking a lot, so if you can cut back at all, it might be worth a try to see if that helps the depression.
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 11:02 PM

Oh okay.. I'll try to cut back on it... Thanks..
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a touch is a blow,
a sound is a noise,
a misfortune is a tragedy,
a joy is an ecstasy,
a friend is a lover,
a lover is a god,
and failure is death.
Add to this cruelly delicate organism the overpowering necessity to create, create, create - so that without the creating of music or poetry or books or buildings or something of meaning, his very breath is cut off from him. He must create, must pour out creation. By some strange, unknown, inward urgency he is not really alive unless he is creating." -Pearl S. Buck


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Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:22 PM

4 mg. of Klonipin quite a high dose, particularly at one time. I don't want to moralize and I'm all for the use of medications, but please do be very careful with a dose that high because it can sometimes dangerously impair respiration without one being all that much aware of it.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 01:39 AM

You are on quite a cocktail of meds indeed. i hope your condition improves.. i know quite a bit about medicine, cause i used to be a pain killer abuser. Anyways

Dont worry about respiratory depression w/ 4mg klonopin as long as youre strictly sticking to your regimen of medicine

klonopin has a very long half life, meaning its in ur system for about 2 days. I dose every other day instead of every day, or sometimes once every 3 days
dont do that tho. If you cold turkey on klonopin it can have fatal consequences esp at high doses & over long periods of time.

another thing
i hate confinement, confinement sucks, im just a person, i take klonopin (often more than prescribed) for my anxiety as prescribed by my doctor. I also take suboxone which is a pain-killer blocker and i take less than prescribed because i do not need it.

if you need anyone to talk to about how much confinement sucks, or anyhting, idk, i just talk, you can msg me
i hope everything gets better..

I myself have anxiety, insomnia, fibromyalgia



personally i think you are on too many things that are not working but i do not know you. Try to take your klonopin maybe 3mg a day instead of 4 for a few days if you can, or wait until you ABSOLUTELY NEED IT, that way you get the maximum effects from the drug (IE: it does what it is designed to do).

And your tolerance issue isnt uncommon because klonopin builds up in your system (as i mentioned above)

i know lots about klonopin(benzodiazepine), not so much about anti-depressants an that jazz(but do have quite a bit of knowledge), youre too pretty to be in confinement btw ha

one final thing

if you do not feel the klonopin, do not redose, as this will just result in increased tolerance and not increased effects due to the drugs half life.


just realized this post was from 2009 lol sry but maybe sum1 will find this useful lol

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:51 PM

is possible that 4 mg of Klonopin are making you flat and depress,happened to me before,maybe you should ask about ABilify and replace the klonopin for ativan maybe??
your doctor replied to you,what happened??





View Postryax, on 25 May 2010 - 01:39 AM, said:

You are on quite a cocktail of meds indeed. i hope your condition improves.. i know quite a bit about medicine, cause i used to be a pain killer abuser. Anyways

Dont worry about respiratory depression w/ 4mg klonopin as long as youre strictly sticking to your regimen of medicine

klonopin has a very long half life, meaning its in ur system for about 2 days. I dose every other day instead of every day, or sometimes once every 3 days
dont do that tho. If you cold turkey on klonopin it can have fatal consequences esp at high doses & over long periods of time.

another thing
i hate confinement, confinement sucks, im just a person, i take klonopin (often more than prescribed) for my anxiety as prescribed by my doctor. I also take suboxone which is a pain-killer blocker and i take less than prescribed because i do not need it.

if you need anyone to talk to about how much confinement sucks, or anyhting, idk, i just talk, you can msg me
i hope everything gets better..

I myself have anxiety, insomnia, fibromyalgia



personally i think you are on too many things that are not working but i do not know you. Try to take your klonopin maybe 3mg a day instead of 4 for a few days if you can, or wait until you ABSOLUTELY NEED IT, that way you get the maximum effects from the drug (IE: it does what it is designed to do).

And your tolerance issue isnt uncommon because klonopin builds up in your system (as i mentioned above)

i know lots about klonopin(benzodiazepine), not so much about anti-depressants an that jazz(but do have quite a bit of knowledge), youre too pretty to be in confinement btw ha

one final thing

if you do not feel the klonopin, do not redose, as this will just result in increased tolerance and not increased effects due to the drugs half life.


just realized this post was from 2009 lol sry but maybe sum1 will find this useful lol

what i have: bipolar,anger issues,imsomnia,mayor anxiety
what i take these days: Seroquel,Cymbalta,Lorazepam
what i took before:lithium,wellbutrin,cymbalta,lexapro,lamictal,neurontin,valium,xanax,ativa,ambien,lunesta,depakote.

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