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#1 yummysecrets

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 11:08 AM

Does anyone know if a person can develop lanugo if they are malnourished but not yet underweight?
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#2 sorrel

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 11:36 AM

I don't think so. It isn't a deficiency symptom, it's specifically from being underweight.




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Posted 15 June 2010 - 12:50 PM

I've gotten while not technically underweight, just too small for my frame. I've gained weight from the stupid zyprexa, but I still have a little on my stomach
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#4 AirMarshall

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 04:25 PM

If someone has developed hair of lanugo then they have serious eating or metabolic disorders. I hope that someone wouldn't delude themselves into thinking that just because they aren't emaciated that they aren't seriously ill. Seek medical help immediately. a.m.


From http://www.eatingdis...gDisorders.html

I’ve Noticed Lanugo on My Body – Where Can I Get Help?
Chances are that if you’ve grown lanugo then you are in a state of severe malnutrition and emaciation. If you are not already under the care of medical and mental health professionals then you need to be. Contact a local GP, private mental health care specialist or, as you are likely in imminent danger of severe health problems, consider visiting an A&E.

I Am Not Anorexic But Have Grown Lanugo. Now What?
If you are a healthy weight and have no abnormal thoughts or behaviours regarding food then it is highly abnormal to grown lanugo. Consult a GP or dermatologist for more information regarding your specific situation.


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#5 OscillateWildly

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 01:06 AM

Does anyone know if a person can develop lanugo if they are malnourished but not yet underweight?


No, the lanugo is a direct result of having insufficient body fat to maintain body temp. It will only occur during severe body fat loss.

#6 AirMarshall

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 01:54 AM

Ok, let's get specific. NO, low body fat is NOT the only cause of the development of hair of lanugo. a.m.

Causes of Aquired Hypertrichosis [including hair of lanugo]
-Malignant Cancers, esp. lung, colon
-Systemic diseases, non malignant
-Endocrine disorders of thyroid, encephalon, pituitary
-Anorexia Nervosa
-AIDS
-Drugs: e.g. Phenytoin, Acetazolamide, Cyclosporin A, Diazoxide, Psoralens, Penicillamine, Streptomycin

Localized Causes

-Becker's nevus: on the shoulder, anterior chest or scapular region. May also be on the shoulder girdle, arm or breast and other vertebral abnormalities associated with Becker's nevus.

-Porphyria cutanea tarda: Particularly in the temple areas. It may present on the face and upper trunk.

-Trauma: Circumscribed hypertrichosis has been observed following repeated friction as on the shoulders of sack bearers or sites of habitual biting in patients with mental retardation.

-Infection and inflammation: Areas overlying thrombophlebitis or chronic osteomyelitis, or vaccination sites may develop hypertrichosis.

From: Journal of Dermatology


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#7 OscillateWildly

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 02:58 AM

As pertaining to eating disorder patients, lanugo is caused by having insufficient body fat to maintain temp.

There are other reasons someone can develop lanugo. But in this patient population (eating disorders), the cause is going to be extreme low weight triggering compensatory lanugo.


Technically, a tumor pressing on certain brain regions can cause hallucinations, but if a person has had schizophrenia for 10 years, it's safe to say that the reason they are hallucinating is *probably* going to be the schizophrenia and not a brain tumor.

#8 AirMarshall

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 10:18 AM

Well, we can't be certain. Nobody thought to ask Yummys. if she is a Sack Bearer, carrying charcoal each day for her village cook fires. *ducks*

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#9 Ashdene

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 02:56 PM

ok, lets start with your definition of what is underweight, cause you may very well be under weight enough to have laguno, and on this board we all tend not to know what underweight is. So whats your BMI, we need to work with the facts.

Laguno:
Lanugo is the formal name for soft, downy, fine white hair that grows mainly on the arms and chests of female anorexics. Lanugo will not grow on all anorexics, but it is usually found on anorexics who have suffered from severe weight loss and are approaching emaciation.
If you are a healthy weight and have no abnormal thoughts or behaviours regarding food then it is highly abnormal to grown lanugo. Consult a GP or dermatologist for more information regarding your specific situation.

Hirsutism:
Is a condition in which too much hair grows on the face or body in women.

Women who have hirsutism can have dark, thick hair on their face, chest, abdomen and back. This thick, dark hair is different from the hair that some women have on their upper lip, chin, breasts or stomach, or the fine "baby" hair all over their body.

Women from certain ethnic groups are more likely to develop hirsutism. These including women of Middle Eastern, South Asian and Mediterranean descent.

Other symptoms of hirsutism may include:

· Acne

· Irregular menstrual periods

· Deepening of the voice

· Increased muscle mass

· Decreased breast size

Hirsutism can be caused by abnormally high levels of male hormones (called androgens). The following are some of the conditions that may increase a woman's normally low levels of male hormones:

· Poly-cystic ovairin syndrome: which is a condition that occurs when an imbalance of hormone levels in a woman's body causes cysts (say: "sists") to form in the ovaries

· Cushings syndrome, which occurs when your body is exposed to high levels of the hormone cortisol for a long period of time

· Tumors in the ovaries or adrenal gland, formed when abnormal cells grow out of control and clump together

Hirsutism can also be caused by hair follicles that are overly sensitive to male hormones. Doctors don't know why this occurs.

Some medicines can cause hirsutism. These medicines include hormones, anabolic steroids and a medicine used to treat women who have endometriosis (called danazol).

Hirsutism also seems to be hereditary (which means it runs in families).

If you have hirsutism, your family doctor may want to do some tests to find out what is causing it.

Hypertrichosis: refers to extra hair on other areas and which is not caused by testosterone. Areas which can be affected by hypertrichosis include the forehead, upper cheeks or, in the case of prepubertal children, anywhere on the body. Hair on the forearms and lower legs can be hormonal or non-hormonal. More than mild hypertrichosis is uncommon. Certain infrequently used drugs can cause it, for example, cyclosporin, used to prevent transplant rejection.

The dark, stiff opaque hairs found with hirsutism are called terminal hairs. Very light, fine hairs which are barely visible are termed vellus. With testosterone stimulation vellus hairs develop into terminal ones. Sometimes the vellus hairs start to become more noticeable but are still fine – a situation colloquially referred to as “peach fuzz.” This sort of hair can appear at or after menopause

Almost all women concerned about increased hair growth have hirsutism, not hypertrichosis.

Also, remember, that with eating disorders are hormones ar stuffed up, so go to the doctor and see whats going on. If you do have Laguno, you need help and that your eating disorder is out of control.
So give me some stats and we can work from there.

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Edited by Ashdene, 20 June 2010 - 02:57 PM.

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#10 yummysecrets

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:40 AM

*laughs* Don't worry, you guys! This was just a general question!

- I was asking about lanugo pertaining to eating disorders only. I'm aware that it can be caused by other reasons. I was just wondering if it was similar to loss of period, which can happen long before you are underweight, or if it was more related to a low body temp due to lack of body fat.

I was only wondering because I don't know anything about it, and I'm nosy.

- I personally am not growing lanugo. I am nowhere near emaciated. I am still withing a healthy weight range, and I am in all kinds of treatment. ;) So don't worry about me.

(I do have these irritating hairs that grow on my chin though...man they are annoying!)
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#11 Ashdene

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:00 PM

Well that is very good to know!!!! xoxox

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