Middle Child Syndrome
Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:48 PM
I've always been very interested in family/child order, and how it affects the personality. I know absolutely bot-all about pyschology, so all of this is purely speculation, and a general gathering of info. No intention of offence either.
I'm aware I haven't specifically included twins, becuase I generally find they will consider themselves older or younger than the twin, depending on the leading/submissive nature of the twin.
So, background. I'm a middle of three. One of my friends is younger of two. Another is third of four. We all would consider ourselves middle children, and to suffer from middle child syndrome. I thought I'd made it up, then saw some documentary about it (not the most reliable, i know), where the middle child feels different or inferior to his or her siblings. It also occurs most commonly to children with only a few years between them and thier siblings. When there's a big gap between an older and younger sibling, they're both more likely to act more like only children.
I found it interesting that Friend2 up there felt inferior to his other three siblings, whereas child 2 of 4 in that family was fine. In another family I know, it was children 4 and 3 of 5 that were more of black sheep in the family.
My own experience, and because when I get to know someone I ask where they stand in thier sibling lineup, this is generally the average (I know not everyone fits this profile, it's just an overview. Sometimes I think that someone acts like a certain role, then isn't):
Oldest child: most competent, through one-to-one nurturing in their first years, there's something special about the first born, always has been with humans. Parents feel the most pride for this first child.
Youngest child: can feel inferior to older siblings, becuase of everything they've done, has been done before. But, there's no younger children that need taking care of, so parents are more likely to tend to the younger child for longer than others.
Middle child: academically behind the older, and too old to be coddled like the younger, middle child attempts to be one or the other, or different somehow. I'm not saying parents don't care for thier middle children at all, it's just how I viewed my childhood. I believe this is why I acted out and now have green hair.
Only child: Perks of both the older and younger child, recieves nurturing from parents both academically and in homelife for longer than parents with 'divided' attention. Downside, is that they tend much more strongly towards being lonely, struggle more to make friends, from the multiple sibling families growing up with other children around all of the time.
Again, purely speculation. I wondered if anyone else had any thoughts on this, or had at all heard of it.
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:58 PM
Not that every child is the same or that the same techniques that work for one will work for the other, but there are definitely far-reaching downsides to being the eldest in addition to whatever pluses exist.
I'm the eldest, the next youngest is 9 years younger, and the 2 after that are nearly 20 years younger..... all by the same batshit insane parents. Because Jesus hates divorce.
While my family's demographics are atypical, the guinea pig factor exists for any first born, even if they're the only child.
Personally, I'm the blackest of the black sheep in my family
I'm very curious and also concerned at the same time of what will become of the youngest of us. Heading toward adolescence, they are....they've already been dx with stuff though, so maybe our mother will have the foresight to take them to a therapist when they're trying to kill themselves. (Which I obviously hope will not happen, but at least one of them is already dx bipolar & asperger's and he's only in like 4th or 5th grade..... The other one's almost a teenager and is DDNOS and very obviously probably permanently damaged by the bullshit my parents put everyone through.)
Dx with BP II and ADHD because who wants to actually take the time to test a grown woman for an ASD? No, that'd be stupid. And I'm silly for even bringing it up. Despite the fact that 2/3 of my siblings are on the spectrum.
(Buspirone? Probably not gonna take it)
Posted 28 July 2011 - 04:13 PM
I have 2 children, a girl and a boy. They are very different- my daughter, the oldest, is very smart and really moody. It's a pleasure when she's happy, but a lot of times she's irritable or sad. She doesn't like to be touched, can spend a lot of time alone and entertain herself. She doesn't like physical activity, but I try to get her to try sports. She has one best friend.
My son is very loving and likes to hug. He tries and does about average in school. He's usually in a good mood. He wants to be doing something all the time and has many friends. He plays flag football in the fall and spring and really enjoys it. I spend more time with him because he doesn't like to be alone. They are both sensitive. My son developed a nervous tic last school year because of bullying, but he's doing much better now.
schizoaffective bipolar type, social anxiety, depersonalization disorder
abilify, lamictal, lexapro, wellbutrin, seroquel
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:03 PM
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:41 PM
I left home once at 19, but had to go back (absolute nightmare for me). I could only stay for a few months, though my situation was made even worse by my illness (at a time when I didn't know that I was hearing voices). I left permanently at the age of 20 and cut my parents (well, all my family actually apart from one cousin who has something in common with me - not mentioning this thing for fear of identification) out of my life all together. I now see my parents as merely 'egg donor' and 'sperm donor' and they mean nothing to me. Though obviously I would not wish any harm upon them.
History = depression (remission since April 2009), SI (remission since April 2009), alcohol abuse (remission since March 2007)
Past false dx = BPD (only symptom I had was SI), schizophrenia (I was very sleep deprived at the time)
Also have diabetes and pain issues (undiagnosed) and hayfever (April - June)
Current meds = Seroquel 800mg XR (as 400 in the morning and 400 in the night)
Also on insulin and Microgynon
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:58 PM
I also think I was more comfortable around adults since I had more experience interacting with my parents than other kids. I don't remember making friends at school being a natural or easy task.
There were times that parents were doting but also more lonely times when parents had had enough kid time, left me to myself and there were no siblings to play with.
Dx: Recurrent MDD, Dysthymia, OCD, Social Anxiety
Rx: Viibryd 40 mg, Lamictal 400mg, Liothyronine (T3) 50mcg, Wellbutrin XR 300mg, Geodon 180mg
PRN: Ambien 10 mg, Hydroxyzine 50-100mg
Non-psych: Sumatriptan 100mg (migraines), Propanolol 40mg (tremor)
Supplements: NAC 2000mg a day
Fail: Prozac, Lexapro, Celexa, Abilify, Zoloft, Pristiq, Venlafaxine, and Clonazepam .5 mg at bedtime, Topamax 200mg
Posted 28 July 2011 - 07:52 PM
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Posted 28 July 2011 - 08:53 PM
That being said, I'm an only child. I received a lot of attention from both parents, some wanted and some unwanted. I would say that I'm a fairly independent person and I tend not to depend on others.
Posted 04 August 2011 - 05:33 AM
Dx: Bipolar 1; GAD; Migraine w/ Aura; Migraine w/o Aura; Renal Tubular Acidosis (caused by Zonegran); Status Migrainosus
Rx: Alprazolam; Botox; Buproprion; Dihydroergotomine via IV Infusion; Flexeril; Lamotrigine; Latuda; Lithium; Metoclopramide; Midrin; Migranal; Potassium Citrate; Prilosec; Promethazine; Riboflavin; Tizanidine; Verapamil; Vitamin D3
Currently Shelved: Abilify; Amerge; Anaprox; Atenolol; Buspar; Cafergot; Cymbalta; Depakote; Di-Hydro-ergotamine, injected; Gabapentin; Geodon; Imitrex Tablets; Klonopin; Maxalt; Namenda; Nortriptyline; Norvasc; Propranolol; Prozac; Risperidone; Relpax; Sansert; Sumatriptan injectables; Tegretol; Trazadone; Zoloft; Zolpidem; Zomig; Zonegran
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Posted 23 September 2011 - 03:49 PM
Being an only child is pretty advantageous for me- lots of opportunities to try new things, my mom let me specialise in things early (namely the sciences and martial arts), and getting time alone to myself with my mom.
The one downside to being raised almost solely by my mother is that if she wasn't home and I was bored as a younger child, I got into a ton of trouble because my imagination would take over.
Current MI DX: agitated depression, ADHD- inattentive, and an anxiety disorder... throw in some PTSD symptoms too
Current MI RX: Ativan (lorazepam) 0.5-1.5 mg PRN (kills the anxiety, but makes me eat like a PIG!), Abilify (aripiprazole) 10 mg SID, Zoloft 50 mg SID, Adderall 10 mg BID
Current Quasi-MI DX: Migraines
Current Quasi-MI RX: Sumatriptan Succinate 50 mg (PRN)
Former DX: Major Depressive Disorder, Bipolar II
Former RX: Effexor-XR (agitation, possible hypomania)
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 08:41 PM
Of course, they could never bring this up so we could have nice, open, happy-family communication about it... Hence why I don't believe in happy families anymore.
Oh, and my Dad is a middle child and has classic middle-child syndrome.
My Brain Salad: BPD, MDD, Insomnia, Anorexia Nervosa, "very likely" C-PTSD, Migraines
What they give me for it: Seroquel 300mg, Wellbutrin 300mg, Lofepramine 140mg, Pizotifen 3mg, Naproxen PRN, Zopiclone PRN, Valium PRN`
Have also dealt with: Panic Disorder (now in remission), Self-harm (stopped ~4 months, but still relapsing occasionally)
Posted 05 November 2011 - 02:34 PM
I was the "scapegoat" or "whipping boy". I got treated with vicious hatred by my mother, and my father beat me at her behest. I grew up to be "different" and the rebel. I smoked both cigs and herb, while none of my siblings did. I got into "punk" dress and music in the late seventies when I was a young teen. Until recently I had green hair. Now it's fire-engine red.
Dx: BP1 (Schizoaffective), PTSD, GAD, ADHD, BPD, Self-Harm, Med resistance
Rx: Seroquel XR 200mg + IR 100mg PRN, Zopiclone PRN, Modafinil PRN.
Fails: Too many Rx to list, ECT, Booze
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 03:23 PM
Posted 05 November 2011 - 03:25 PM
Diag-nonsense: complex PTSD w/ recurrent depression
Tx: Lamictal (250) + prazosin (7.5) + "therapy"
Posted 05 November 2011 - 03:37 PM
DX: Bipolar Disorder, Social Anxiety Disorder
Current RX: Lithium Carbonate 800mg, Seroquel XR 800mg, Lamictal 100mg x2 daily, Procyclidine 5mg, prozac 40mg
Also Yasmin 0.3/3mg for PCOS and Losec 20mg for Hiatus Hernia
Anti-depressants: dothiepin, clomipramine, paroxetine, mirtazepine, lofepramine, venlafaxine, escitalopram, agomelatine
Anti-psychotics: thoridazine, risperidone, olanzapine, haloperidol, aripiprazole, chlorpromazine
Mood Stabilisers: carbamazepine, sodium valproate,
Anxiolytics: alprazolam, diazepam, lorazepam, clonazepam
Hypnotics: lormetazepam, temazepam, zopiclone, zolpidem, flurazepam
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:28 PM
My family dynamic was a mess. As a result of that, I am still the most responsible of all my siblings, and the one most able to "tough it out" through a difficult or unpleasant situation without losing my cool. But I do have a few middle child traits, I think. I'm the black sheep: the nice, quiet, obedient kid who turned into a flaming weirdo. The person the relatives are talking about when they wonder "what happened." I am also the diplomat of the group, and a bit of a doormat.
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Dx: Schizotypal PD with Schizoid traits, social phobia, BPII (or perhaps recurrent MDD).
Rx: Vitamins, coffee, solitude. Currently no pharmaceuticals.
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Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:29 PM
Dx: Bipolar I with psychotic features
Rx: Buproprion XL 150 mg, lamotrigine 200 mg, zolpidem 10 mg PRN
(Also, fexofenadine and albuterol PRN for nasty, wheezy allergy/asthma crap and butalbital PRN for migraines. Also-also, super-B-complex vitamin daily.)