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Posted 03 September 2009 - 01:37 PM

Um, I hate to break it to you but they have invented that drug a long time ago, its called Meth-Amphetimine and it WILL make you into a zombie worker and worse things, Stay Away from it!

I do beleive that not everything works for everyone the same, so if the Concerta is not working for you then by all means try the Aderall but try to give each one you try 1-2 months so your body can adjust and you can make a more informed decision.
If you dont find that your doctor is helping you then go find another doctor, you do have a choice on which doctor you see.
I agree with the post though that the drugs that are being prescribed will only help you focus on the task at hand but you actually have to attempt a task. It takes some self discipline to overcome ADD and/or ADHD you cant expect the drugs to do all the work. Just remember some drugs help more than others and not everyone is the dsame, sometimes you just have to keep tryin guntil youfind the right drug and dosage or combination that works best for you.

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View PostAuburnSunshine, on Oct 20 2005, 02:24 PM, said:

I'm on 36mg Concerta plus 10 mg. ritalin...not so sure it's working cuz I still don't do much. I'm thinking about asking my doctor about Adderall and hoping it might make a difference.


I'm confused... what do you expect it to do, make you run to the library, or do work after you've run to the library off it?

It's not suppose to force you into a state of zombie worker... they haven't quite invented that drug yet... have you tried going to the library? ADD or not, most people can't do work in their dorm/apt...


I also find opening textbooks from their shrinkwrap do wonders with the drug efficacy for these things... and for other novel ideas, consider attending class _and_ taking the stimulant. I find that helpful too... I know it sounds sarcastic, but I had a roomie who mentioned, "you know what I find helpful at times? going to class" in the most serious tone ever, like he was suggesting some sort of old wives remedy for getting off gum from one's hair. He took Concerta.

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 02:08 PM

You would probably be very interested in this article comparing Adderall vs Ritalin. It discusses many of the issues mentioned in this topic and could be helpful! =)

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 06:51 AM

I just started taking concerta yesterday for my first time 18mg...it makes me feel spacy and out of it...sleepy and not as hungry and alot more quiet and kept to myself. Im going to keep taking it to see if it does any good for me..do you think i should get my mg put up more?

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View Postshawnee, on 18 November 2009 - 06:51 AM, said:

I just started taking concerta yesterday for my first time 18mg...it makes me feel spacy and out of it...sleepy and not as hungry and alot more quiet and kept to myself. Im going to keep taking it to see if it does any good for me..do you think i should get my mg put up more?



also what does the mg mean? I just see that everyone had differnt ones??

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View Postshawnee, on 18 November 2009 - 07:21 AM, said:

View Postshawnee, on 18 November 2009 - 06:51 AM, said:

I just started taking concerta yesterday for my first time 18mg...it makes me feel spacy and out of it...sleepy and not as hungry and alot more quiet and kept to myself. Im going to keep taking it to see if it does any good for me..do you think i should get my mg put up more?


Hey, me too! I used to take concerta when I was 10-15, but then stopped and felt I could do without it because it tended to make me almost the same as you describe it!! I was less hungry, a little more sleepy, more quiet and I kept to myself more. I was less social in school, which bothered me and convinced me to skip taking it sometimes and stop taking it by the time I was 15. I don't remember if it helped when I took it.

Now, I'm 19 and in college. I've heard of people who would kill (figuratively... lol) for adderall and these other types of ADD meds and say it really works. So partly due to the peer pressure, I feel inclined to open up my bottle of concerta (18 mg) and test it out! I feel older and more able to judge its effects on me since I haven't taken it in a long time and have some prior experience. I'm going to try it now and think reflexively in the next 12 hours up to midnight how I am feeling and whether I can study better or not in this time.

I'll try to remember to report back ;)


also what does the mg mean? I just see that everyone had differnt ones??


mg = milligrams
1000 mg = 1 g (gram)

Dosage of medicines are often measured in number of mg and is usually determined by how bad your condition is. So mild ADHD = maybe 18 mg, while more severe case of ADHD might be 36 mg or something...

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View Postshawnee, on 18 November 2009 - 06:51 AM, said:

I just started taking concerta yesterday for my first time 18mg...it makes me feel spacy and out of it...sleepy and not as hungry and alot more quiet and kept to myself. Im going to keep taking it to see if it does any good for me..do you think i should get my mg put up more?


Hey, me too! I used to take concerta when I was 10-15, but then stopped and felt I could do without it because it tended to make me almost the same as you describe it!! I was less hungry, a little more sleepy, more quiet and I kept to myself more. I was less social in school, which bothered me and convinced me to skip taking it sometimes and stop taking it by the time I was 15. I don't remember if it helped when I took it.

Now, I'm 19 and in college. I've heard of people who would kill (figuratively... lol) for adderall and these other types of ADD meds and say it really works. So partly due to the peer pressure, I feel inclined to open up my bottle of concerta (18 mg) and test it out! I feel older and more able to judge its effects on me since I haven't taken it in a long time and have some prior experience. I'm going to try it now and think reflexively in the next 12 hours up to midnight how I am feeling and whether I can study better or not in this time.

I'll try to remember to report back ;)

^^ sorry for the double post. my earlier post got "quoted" instead of being a "reply" for some reason, sorry...

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 01:11 PM

View Postdeedledum, on 26 November 2009 - 12:50 PM, said:

Hey, me too! I used to take concerta when I was 10-15, but then stopped and felt I could do without it because it tended to make me almost the same as you describe it!! I was less hungry, a little more sleepy, more quiet and I kept to myself more.


That's what the school system usually wants, to reduce the assessed hyperactivity, and why there's so much concern over over-prescription. So parents and patients up wondering if it's really in their best interest. Read some of the older topics in the ADHD board - even parents who know the diagnosis is correct, can see positive results, and know (all too well) the potential problems if left untreated, end up asking themselves if it's the right thing.

Also, for some adults with ADHD Adderall can be an effective sleep medication. A higher, or lower, dosage can help avoid that. Sometimes it's even a good thing. Just ... not while driving a car.
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Concerta is extended/time released ritalin.

I'm such a nervous wreck about seeing my pdoc this morning...didn't sleep at all last night. Of course I can't tell her that because then she'' say "hmm...yes...just like I've said you're bipolar and you need a mood stabilizer."

The only way "we" got to a diagnosis of bipolar for me is that when I go in to talk with her I DO talk fast...because I know I only have 30 minutes (or less it seems much of the time!) and I want to get everything out so "we" can get the right medications for me. However, it's because I talk so quickly when I'm in her office that she says I'm bipolar.

I keep telling her that I just don't think that's the case...1) I've never had a manic (even mild) state that wasn't because of a special reason, i.e., acknowledgement for a project, etc. But she'll say "and how did you feel when that happened." When I say that I felt great...my self esteem was up, etc....she goes back to this bipolar shit.

I've been studying bipolar as much as I can (which pisses her off royally) and I haven't had any kind of a manic state for four days in a row...that's what the DSM says for Bipolar II. All of this horrible, horrible depression began after my parents' suicide and then the loss of my life as I had always known it. I've always hoped I would "snap out of it" but haven't so I've accepted it as a part of my life for now.

She won't listen to the depression being caused by PTSD...says it was there way before they died. But you guys have helped me realize that she doesn't know squat...she never knew me before their deaths and so how can she say that?!?!?

I never had manic states before - or even after - their deaths so how can I be bipolar?

I'll admit that I probably had had ADD throughout my life...but I always was able to keep it under control until the depression hit. So much of what is ADD is also depression...

I've got to stop crying before I see her...I have to get myself calmed down and under control so I can go into her office as the mature, assertive woman I AM...and not allow her to bully me because of her insecurities.

I can't tell you enough how much it means to me that you read my post and responded. Thank you so very much.



Okay, I felt like I needed to respond to your post. I was diagnosed with ADHD, at age 8. My parents didn't believe in meds, so my entire life we have done the (self -help) treatment. It wasn't until after I had my daughter (at age 25), that the stress with the ADD, pushed me beyond my ability to (self control). I want to say that I have always been a semi-fast talker ( my SO said I needed to say things in paragraphs, when men only have the need to say the same things in 1-2 sentences.) That's just men, and women. I just started Concerta, and feel as though it hasn't been the best match for me either, and am planning on switching to adderal. I have been in your situatio, where I feel like i have sooo much to say in a little about of time and have a "word vomit" alot of people stop hearing after the first minute and ALL the hear is BLA BLA BLA.... What helped me better communicate what I needed, without coming across as a patient that needs to be highly medicated for my excitement about the subject, is that I wrote out my concerns/ questions on a peice of paper. I met with my doctor, and (in 3 min) I stated this:
Dr G, (I'm not great with saying what I mean within the short time we have here today, so I put on paper what I need from our meeting today.)
(FIRMLY STATE) Before we begin, I know we have alot of things we need to cover today. And I want to make sure that we both make the most out of our time we have today. I want to let you know that, I have concerns and/or ?'s that I need to be addressed today.(simply stated) Although I understand our time is limited, and I think we can both agree that our shared goal today is to cover what is and is not working, possible solutions, and what we need to do to get me where I need to be. I would like for us to begin, by going through our "regular" Q&A, regarding my therapy, and I would like to give you the answers to your questions to medically evaluate our progress. However, I would like for us to try and discuss the things on my list, and visit my concerns/or questions, so that I may better understand what I need to do after we leave here today. The the end "result" ( ie. diagnosis, prescription(changes), or plan) is something through understanding, that will have me leaving here today with the confidence and understanding (WHY) in the "plan" we move forward with.

etc... etc... Make it your own words, point is.... OUR weekness is saying things in paragraphs, and no one else can understand our ranting... You have to be prepared before you go to the doctor and FORCE them to answer your concerns, without sounding like a rambling patient. We all do it, and the only way you can take control is to take it in your own hands write it OUT and SAY what you mean CLEARLY, and if the Doctor can't address your issues, you need to find a new DOCTOR!!! Trust me they are out there, and you pay enough for them to address your needs, (JUST make them clear) and you will find the answers you need and deserve!

I hope this helps,

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(sorry) Also, I wanted to add that a Dr. does't ad shouldn't force a diagnosis on you. If you feel you are not Bi-Bolar. Take your research write it out. Maybe consult a friend that knew you before your parents passed, and tell your Dr, that you need for this person to be apart of your therapy and ask for a session where they can attend and discuss the person you were before, and write out the reasons you feel your (fast-talkig and Bi-polar like) actions have been a "situational" reaction to that time in your life and what the plan is to get you through it. A side not... I was never a depressed person, but after going through a assault I had to understand I WAS depressed situationally and go throught he treatment for a period of time. After a year, of anti depressants and counceling I felt like I was ready to move forwad without meds. It didn't make me a "Depressant" , like it doesn't makeyou Bi-polar, but the situation can cause you to have "situational" conditions, and you eed to find a way to deal with it, and find healing.

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Hi Sunshine,

I am so sorry for the things you've been going through. I came across this site because my 7 year old baby was diagnosed with ADD and I am trying to get her help way before she gets older. I am glad I came across your posts though. I am so shocked at your psych's behavior. The last thing she should be displaying to you is ANGER! Abusing patients is against regulations. I understand that you want to cut costs. However, your mental health is not something you can bargin with. You sound like you've experienced some serious, traumatic events in your life and it is more than likely PTSD and not BPD! I don't know if you are religious but if you are, I would suggest you go and speak to someone in church. A lot of times the counselors that are in church, do all types of counseling and have psychology degrees. Some just have life experiences. I certainly don't have a degree but psychology has ALWAYS intrigued me. You should go to the library and get as much information you can about PTSD, ADD, BPD, the medication you're taking and the guidelines that psychologists have follow when treating patients. No one should try to limit your knowledge and understanding of what is going on with you. You should learn as much as you can. Just make sure you distinguish fact from opinion. I really pray that things work out for you. Be Blessed!

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:50 AM

Started with adderall, loved it. switched over to concerta, and i HATED it. i would choose adderall anyday. Concerta makes me dizzy and sick and gives me a constant feeling like im gonna throw up. And the Concerta come downs were unbearable. I had no problems with adderall. hope that helped lol

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 11:51 AM

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View PostAubrey Shay, on 30 December 2009 - 10:50 AM, said:

Started with adderall, loved it. switched over to concerta, and i HATED it. i would choose adderall anyday. Concerta makes me dizzy and sick and gives me a constant feeling like im gonna throw up. And the Concerta come downs were unbearable. I had no problems with adderall. hope that helped lol



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This post has been edited by Stacia: 10 January 2010 - 01:49 PM

Dx:
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AM Wellbutrin XL 300mg, Ritalin LA 30mg, Klonopin .5mg,
PM Geodon 160mg, Klonopin 1mg

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 01:49 PM

View Postbeetle, on 10 January 2010 - 08:51 AM, said:

View Postgybson52, on 10 January 2010 - 11:44 AM, said:

View PostAubrey Shay, on 30 December 2009 - 10:50 AM, said:

Started with adderall, loved it. switched over to concerta, and i HATED it. i would choose adderall anyday. Concerta makes me dizzy and sick and gives me a constant feeling like im gonna throw up. And the Concerta come downs were unbearable. I had no problems with adderall. hope that helped lol



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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:57 PM

Hey everyone
A doctor just gave me a weeks trial of 18mg Concerta. I live in UK where it is not widely accepted that Adults can have ADHD, most people even doubt that ADHD in children exists, and firmly believe that these sort of drugs are over-prescribed. I'm not sure where I stand on this issue, but I certainly have had problems concentrating when reading books, watching movies and even just conversing with people. And I can't handle organising money or my life in general (house is a mess etc).

To cut a long story short, it took me about 4 years to be diagnosed and allowed a trial on Concerta. I was really disapointed. I was on 18mg concerta both today and yesterday, and I felt completely spaced out it was a bit upsetting (mainly because of sheer disapointment). I made lots of little mistakes at work, and noticed a lack of attention to detail. I had to do everything more slowly and carefully as I knew I was messing up. On my way home from work I popped into a store to get a few groceries, and accidently spent about 40 minutes in there cause it was taking me so long to make decisions and read the labels on food.

The doctor asked me to go back on Friday to discuss how things are going. I was wondering if anybody has any suggestions of what to do until then. Should I keep taking them in the hope that my body will 'grow-into' the medication and start actually helping? or should I just stay off it till I speak to him on Friday? Does anyone in the UK know if any other medication here is ever prescribed?

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 11:41 PM

hi ppl im on concerta right now have lost a lot of sleep because of it and yeah i am also feeling nervous as hell so not liking it much went to docs to get some more (ran out) and talked to him a bit about it he suggested maybe i just keep taking it to see if it will change in some way o.0 been on it a few years back before it was subised worked great but at 80 dollars.... its now to 3 dollars and on it because apperntaly rubifen is highly addictive not sure about that all i know is that in the end i was taking 3 times what i was told to as it stopped working (built up a restiance against it ????) at which point i just went without until concerta was subised was also on ritilain i read someone asking what the difference is between the 2 one is slow relief and one you have slightly more control over (ie once u take concerta it takes up to 12 hours to wear off totally) and when you feel it starter to wear off your able to take another (like what i was doing) but already concerta is taking less affect with the amount of tablets i been on during my rather shortish life (just turned 21 3 days ago) maybe thats why and yes they did make a slow release ritilian i was on that for a bit HATED note HATED it nervous as hell about anything and everything also suffering massive headahces due to all the different tablets first i have heard about adderall am going to look into it now ( GO THE NET) and will talk to my doctor out there my advice to all parents whos kids get told they have ADD i suggest holding off as my long term side effects have been- headaches almost daily- massivly cant handle people that well (socialally arkward) very limitied short term memory- insomina sleeping sometimes 4 hours day when lucky but have had less then that and also quite often no sleep- detacthed emotions- limited pain (lots of fun really)- massive amounts of energy at times- totally lethargic at others- easily distracted (very much by shinies :D)- and sevral others that might be attribtued to other things im sure but for those of you who are around my age and flatting like me if you feel your flatmates cant handle you give them a word to use if your going to far with something (mine is pistacho :D(like the nuts lol)) well good luck to all and i hope this will help in someway :D

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View PostAuburnSunshine, on 26 October 2005 - 10:11 AM, said:

Ok...so I'm crying out for help people...literally and figuratively...and no one answers.

If a crazy person scream in the woods and no one has a nice word, does that means she isn't crazy or that none of the trees give a crap???

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there is a so-called drug induced Bi-Polar state caused by medications or drugs, etc. so might ask her which one she is referring to in your case. A true bi-polar is normally diagnosed at a young age...possibly 8 or so not usually diagnosed in adulthood. The DSM IV has now added on a new drug induced BiPolar DX now because of the recent problems people have induced with drugs mostly (my opinion)...so they can catorgorized it i suppose. Any kind of medication has an effect on the body and the body responds to it some different than others...it good to be informed...maybe you should ask her what here long term goals are regarding that medication and if it has additive effects for you later or on reproductive cycles if you are planning a family in the future...the docs do this for a living...when you go there they analyze and treat just like ambulance people go to the scene of an accident to save lives its their job...so you have to look at the big picture regardless its your life and get a second opionion if your not satified with results...No medication is going to so-called FIX everthing. Its merely and option to help improve things maybe or in some cases maybe not. As long as you dont put all your faith in this medicine for cure all and look at it realistically, you might not be as disappointed if it doesnt cure all. All antibiotics dont cure all illnesses...medicine can only do so much. I think they try to treat the current problem to stabilize however its not always for sure...I'm sure there are some redeeming qualities in yourself that you can also rely on to help you through this...and some docs dont want you to just listen to them...there DX is only as good as the symptoms you tell them and the diagnostic studies you engage in...one can also misdiagnose based on what someone is telling them so if you wanna try to get the real Dx be honest with yourself and the doc and go from there...your not obligated to take anything. Being well informed is a plus.

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 06:10 PM

concerta and adderall xr are both long lasting. there is a difference in ritalin compared to adderall ir in that adderall ir may last longer. but in terms of efficacy, concerta and adderall have very similar rates.

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