Jump to content




Photo
- - - - -

Just denied at Reconsideration level


  • Please log in to reply
20 replies to this topic

#1 needhelp25

needhelp25

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:14 PM

So what's next? Talk about being depressed. This was really a low blow. I thought my psychiatrist stood behind me? I wonder what was really in those medical records? My denial letter says I can do light to sedentary work. It says I can find a job where I don't have to deal with the public. I live in a small town. No such job exists. Next is a hearing. Who knows when that will be. I can't survive another year without an income. I guess I will have to find part time work somewhere.I've already been fired twice this year because of my mental issues. There's no hope for me. But wouldn't this ruin my chance for social security if i worked? Hell do i even HAVE a chance at getting it? Who knows what the judge might say. I'm only 25 years old and I have an associate degree that they'r already using against me. I feel like should just give up now and don't bother wasting the judge's or my time :(


#2 notfred

notfred

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 2431 posts

Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:17 PM

Get a lawyer.

#3 y58

y58

    Occupant

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 808 posts

Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:33 PM

Yes, get a lawyer.

Also, the way it works is, they don't care how small a town you live in, or how there's no jobs near you, or that you would have to move to work. When they say you can do such-and-such work, they mean that somewhere in the US economy there is a paying job that you can do.

Depression, social anxiety. Ambien 10 PRN. Old diagnoses: schizophrenia, schizoid personality disorder.

Old: Clozaril, Abilify, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Temazepam, Ritalin, Geodon, Effexor, Remeron, Latuda


#4 dancesintherain

dancesintherain

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 734 posts

Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:36 PM

Agreed w/ the above. Check w/ disability rights organizations, legal aid, etc. if finances are an issue. If they couldn't take your case, they should be able to refer out to someone who can.

Dx: bipolar I. Some ADD symptoms, some GAD symptoms. Lots of fun.

current RXs are generics of: Ativan (0.5 mg a.m.); WellbutrinXL (300mg a.m.); Abilify (15mgs a.m.); Adderall (20 mg XR and 20 mg IR in morning, 20 mg IR in early afternoon); Seroquel (50-100 mg) as emergency sleep med.


Also synthroid (25 mcg) and allergy drug.

Past Rxs: zoloft (like a sugar pill); lexapro (something nasty); ambien (worked, can't remember why we stopped it); sonata (stopped working); effexorXR (wonderful for helping to yank me out of an episode; stopped b/c it seemed to be causing some agitation); geodon (sedation issues); phentermine (helped with appetite, but not with energy, which is what I really needed it for); zyprexa (was just for sleep, and strangely it wouldn't induce it); lamictal (did wonderful anti-depressant things, stopped in order to see if it was causing lethargy); provigil (insurance denied prior authorization).


#5 needhelp25

needhelp25

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:36 PM

I have a lawyer. They just sent me the appeal paperwork. I just hate filling out all this paperwork and then wonder if I filled it out correctly. Well wish me luck :wall:

#6 bpladybug

bpladybug

    Your friendly bipolar Aunt

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 4570 posts

Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:57 PM

Stay in close contact with the attorney. Sometimes it takes a LONG time, and several denials
to get approved. It was a long time for my husband and there were piles and piles of medical records.
He just had 'the worst judge' is what we were told by three different attorneys.
Persevere, keep getting treatment, try to somehow get it into the records about the
loss of jobs due to your mental illness. document as much as possible

ladybuglove.jpg


'Mania is a dangerous Mistress.' BPLadybug

Bipolar 1
Treatment: 900 mgs Lithium, 900 mgs Neurontin, 400 mgs Seroquel, Xanax prn, Temazepam, fish oil, vitamins, Vit. D 5, 000 IU, exercize, some talk therapy and CBT Therapy. Exercize helps as does the Light Box; 30 mins every morning. I also have physical health challenges.


#7 needhelp25

needhelp25

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 06 June 2012 - 08:23 PM

When I go see my psychiatrist she writes down what I say in a notebook. I wonder if this even makes it into my medical records since she does all her patients this way? I couldn't imagine she would have enough time to go back and type all that up for everybody. If I were her, I would go ahead and type it into the computer as we are talking. I think that would be so much easier... but what do I know.. I'm the crazy one right lol.

#8 lavender fairy

lavender fairy

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 804 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:57 AM

My doctors supported my claim and it was still denied as well. I got a lawyer, and am appealing. I know it will take a long time, but at this point I have nothing to loose as I know I can't work. Sorry to hear you are in the same boat. I hope it works out for both of us.

DX: "Chronic" PTSD, Major Depression (severe), Alcoholism-sober for 10 years, Fibromyalgia, Graves Disease, No Thyroid, Sleep Apnea, Asthma, Migraine, High Blood Pressure, Periods from Hell
TX: Abilify 5 mg, Effexor 300 mg, Trazadone 100 mg, Neurontin 1800 mg, Metformin 500 mg, Armour Thyroid 240 mg, CPAP, ProAir, Qvar, Fiorset 40 mg as needed, Atenolol 25 mg, Lysteda 600 mg 3x/daily during menstrual cycles, Tizanidine 4 mg (rarely), Talk Therapy, AA meetings, Intensive Outpatient Therapy

Vitamin Supplements:  Vitamin D, Calcium, Magnesium, Iron, Fish Oil


#9 confused

confused

    bundle of nerves

  • Inmate Emeritus
  • Pip
  • 3243 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:11 PM

I remember hearing something about possibly getting rid of the reconsideration phase to speed things up. I was actually approved at reconsideration, but I provided more information. It's unusual for them to disagree with the original decision.

I'm glad you have a lawyer. Yes, if you are able to work part-time it will be hard to prove you are unable to work.

Did your pdoc fill out any forms for social security or just send notes. I wasn't approved until my pdoc filled out additional forms. I had to pay $50 for his time, but it was worth it.

I never appealed so I don't know how that goes. A lawyer wouldn't take your case unless they thought you had a chance to win if they get paid a % of your back-pay.

schizoaffective bipolar type, social anxiety, depersonalization disorder
abilify, lamictal, lexapro, wellbutrin, seroquel, topomax

It just may be a lunatic you're looking for

Billy Joel

http://psychcentral....isorder/0001564


#10 needhelp25

needhelp25

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:30 PM

My doctors supported my claim and it was still denied as well. I got a lawyer, and am appealing. I know it will take a long time, but at this point I have nothing to loose as I know I can't work. Sorry to hear you are in the same boat. I hope it works out for both of us.


Wow thats terrible. If your doctor supported u, and u still got denied, then how on earth will we win? It's like a lose lose situation. I hope for the best!

I remember hearing something about possibly getting rid of the reconsideration phase to speed things up. I was actually approved at reconsideration, but I provided more information. It's unusual for them to disagree with the original decision.

I'm glad you have a lawyer. Yes, if you are able to work part-time it will be hard to prove you are unable to work.

Did your pdoc fill out any forms for social security or just send notes. I wasn't approved until my pdoc filled out additional forms. I had to pay $50 for his time, but it was worth it.

I never appealed so I don't know how that goes. A lawyer wouldn't take your case unless they thought you had a chance to win if they get paid a % of your back-pay.



Do u mind telling me what those forms were? I need all the help I can get! All I know is social security got my medical records and that was it.

#11 confused

confused

    bundle of nerves

  • Inmate Emeritus
  • Pip
  • 3243 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:38 PM

I'm sorry, I don't know. They were sent directly to him and his office staff asked if I wanted him to fill them out or just send records. He hadn't filled them out initially. Maybe your pdoc or lawyer would know?

schizoaffective bipolar type, social anxiety, depersonalization disorder
abilify, lamictal, lexapro, wellbutrin, seroquel, topomax

It just may be a lunatic you're looking for

Billy Joel

http://psychcentral....isorder/0001564


#12 Antigone

Antigone

    Queen of the Neverlands

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 621 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:41 PM

I just got approved at the hearing level. 99% of claims are denied initially and 80% are denied at reconsideration. Don't be discouraged.

Get an attorney. There is a link somewhere in the stickies on this board to the crazy Meds board that has a national attorney referral service. That is how I found my attorney. They only get paid if you win, and it comes out of backpay so don't worry about that. However, you absolutely cannot work during this time or your claim will be denied outright.

Find some way to survive. I just received $46,000 in backpay which will pay off my debt and give me some savings. I had 400 pages of psych records, but not very good support from my psych in her eval. However, my therapist was very supportive. They backdated my disability to 2008 which entitled me to Medicare immediately.

Good luck.

I am not one and simple, but complex and many. . . .
~ Virginia Woolf


Dx: c-PTSD, Bipolar I with Psychosis, Migraines
Rxs: Wellbutrin 450mg, Klonopin 0.5 - 1 mg prn, Amantadine 100mg bid, Ambien 10 mg, Imitrex 100mg prn


#13 needhelp25

needhelp25

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:09 PM

Congratulations on getting approved. Do you remember some of the questions that were asked at ur hearing? I'm not a people person at all and I know I'm going to be scared to death when my time comes!

#14 y58

y58

    Occupant

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 808 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:30 PM

From what I've heard, a large part of the hearing will focus on what's in the function report(s).

Depression, social anxiety. Ambien 10 PRN. Old diagnoses: schizophrenia, schizoid personality disorder.

Old: Clozaril, Abilify, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Temazepam, Ritalin, Geodon, Effexor, Remeron, Latuda


#15 Antigone

Antigone

    Queen of the Neverlands

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 621 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:40 PM

The questions were all really specific to my symptoms, side effects from Meds, daily functioning, destructive behaviors. His last question was when I last went out alone, which was two years ago. With that, he stopped the hearing saying he had enough to make a decision. It was only thirty minutes long.

I am not one and simple, but complex and many. . . .
~ Virginia Woolf


Dx: c-PTSD, Bipolar I with Psychosis, Migraines
Rxs: Wellbutrin 450mg, Klonopin 0.5 - 1 mg prn, Amantadine 100mg bid, Ambien 10 mg, Imitrex 100mg prn


#16 needhelp25

needhelp25

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:16 PM

Only 30 min? Sounds like a lifetime to me lol. I hope mine goes as smoothly as urs.

#17 crtclms

crtclms

    Queen of Ergots

  • Inmate
  • 9569 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:26 PM

When I go see my psychiatrist she writes down what I say in a notebook. I wonder if this even makes it into my medical records since she does all her patients this way? I couldn't imagine she would have enough time to go back and type all that up for everybody. If I were her, I would go ahead and type it into the computer as we are talking. I think that would be so much easier... but what do I know.. I'm the crazy one right lol.


Some people can't type fast. And if she has a secretary, she just hands the notes over to her, and she types it up (that's what my dad did).

Dx: Bipolar 1; GAD; Migraine w/ Aura; Migraine w/o Aura; Renal Tubular Acidosis (caused by Zonegran); Status Migrainosus
Rx: Alprazolam; Botox; Buproprion; Dihydroergotomine via IV Infusion; Fish Oil; Flexeril; Lamotrigine; Latuda; Lithium; Metoclopramide; Midrin; Migranal; Potassium Citrate; Prilosec; Promethazine; Riboflavin; Tizanidine; Verapamil; Vitamin D3
Currently Shelved: Abilify; Amerge; Anaprox; Atenolol; Buspar; Cafergot; Cymbalta; Depakote; Di-Hydro-ergotamine, injected; Gabapentin; Geodon; Imitrex Tablets; Klonopin; Maxalt; Namenda; Nortriptyline; Norvasc; Propranolol; Prozac; Risperidone; Relpax; Sansert; Sumatriptan injectables; Tegretol; Trazadone; Zoloft; Zolpidem; Zomig; Zonegran


Affectations can be dangerous. -Gertrude Stein

 

I moderate the boards for Bipolar, Panic/Anxiety, Dissociative Disorders, Migraine, Neuropathic and Chronic Pain, Seizures, Not Otherwise Specified, Anticonvulsants, Side Effects, Family Feud, Relationships, and I Still Have Issues. Remember, I am not a medical professional. PM me if you have any questions


#18 needhelp25

needhelp25

    Member

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:51 PM

Wow i never thought of that. Thanx for clearing that up

#19 CrankyMe

CrankyMe

    Salty

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 990 posts

Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:50 AM

Make sure you are letting your lawyer know every time you visit your docs or therapist so they can get updated records and forward them to SS. Ask your lawyer about additional forms that your pdoc, tdoc and gdoc can fill out on your behalf.

Try not to get too discouraged, it is extremely common to be denied at every level until the hearing. I used to work for an SSDI attorney and saw it time and again, even with people who were quite clearly knocking on death's door. My theory is that SS hopes you'll either give up or die before they have to give you your benefits. Seriously.

It took me 3 years from date of application until I received approval, and that didn't happen until the hearing level.

At the hearing, there will be you, a stenographer, a court appointed psychiatrist, your lawyer, and the judge.

In my experience, the judge asked me questions mostly related to work and my ability to perform tasks.

My lawyer asked pointed questions about my limitations, work related, personal care related and relationship related.

The court appointed psychiatrist asked me about seemingly contrary information in my file. That really threw me for a loop. A large part of my claim was based on my inability to be around people or interact with people. Yet I saw an ex-boyfriend ONCE in the 5 years of therapy records he had and also went to a casino ONCE (for some reason, casinos don't bug me -- I think because no one looks at you or bothers you, but that's another story/theory) in that same time frame and out of 5 years of records, those were the only 2 things he asked me about. So I felt like his job was to try to fuck me me up/get me to admit I didn't really have a problem or something like that. Because, you know, the remaining 1,800+ days for which he had records, I was just faking everything. :rolleyes:

My hearing lasted less than 30 minutes. My lawyer was lukewarm about how he thought it went, so I was pretty sure I was going to be denied.

Turns out I was approved and it also turns out that what helped my case the most was the fact that my gdoc(s) had recorded my episodes of depression over the past 20 years and my most recent gdoc sent in a very strongly in my favor report based on conversations we'd had prior to me getting a pdoc and therapist. I had called her twice in like 10 years when I was in crisis and thought I was going to kill myself, and she had very detailed documentation about those events, which was awesome since I barely remember them (when crazy takes over, I don't always remember what happens).

Anyway, that was my experience with the SSDI process. It sucks like hell. It makes you feel inadequate and like you are being accused of lying. It's a tortuous and borderline inhumane process. But remember that it is YOUR RIGHT since you paid into the system. Just keep chugging along through it, try to get by monetarily any way you can, and hope for the best.

Oh, and in regards to your education working against you...I have a BA in English Lit and an Associate's Degree in Paralegal Studies...so I'm obviously qualified for several jobs, but I still got a favorable decision. So don't worry too much about that.

Don't you do that sometimes? Play turtle turtle? With your T-shirt?" - Guinea Pig


#20 saveyoursanity

saveyoursanity

    Sister Hand Grenade of Enlightened Compassion

  • Inmate
  • 2212 posts

Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:27 AM

My SSDI hearing was very similar to CrankySpice's. I wrote about it pretty much directly afterwards in my thread "SSDI -- ALJ Stage".

Hope that's helpful!

CAPS LOCK IS HOW I FEEL INSIDE ALL THE TIME.

"There will be coffee and cookies in the Gandhi Room after the revolution."

 

Dx and Psych Rx in profile.

I am NOT a medical professional, merely experienced from a consumer perspective.
I strongly urge fact checking with your own research and consulting an actual medical professional.






The content of individual posts on this site are the sole work of their authors and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and/or policies of the Administrators, Moderators, or other Members of the Crazyboards community. Health related topics should not be used for the purpose of diagnosis or substituted for medical advice. It is your responsibility to research the accuracy, completeness, and usefulness of all opinions, services, and other information found on the site, and to consult with your professional health care provider as to whether the information can benefit you.