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#21 melissaw72

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:12 AM

snugglepuss, according to my pdoc and many studies, hypothyroidism and MI are directly related. In fact low thyroid can actually mimic MI. Some people have actually been misdiagnosed as MI when it was indeed just thyroid issues.

I just started on T3 (not sure the medical name for it) recently and I feel TONS better. My TSH levels were within normal range but my pdoc wanted to see higher/lower levels (I don't remember which, sometimes I don't pay close enough attention at my appts).

Of course you are entitled to your opinion as to if the two are related in your circumstance, but if you are interested there is plenty of information out there if you choose to research it.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:59 PM

I wouldn't get to optimistic or anything.
I thought maybe my thyroid would be the key to my health, but it's not.
I was able to completely correct my levels with hormones, and I still had all the problems I did before.

Lately I haven't been taking my hormones...
idk why, they're free and i have them
you're making me think i should start taking them again
because at least then i'd feel a little bit better.

i know that getting hypothyroidism treated CAN really give you more energy
make you feel much better
lighten some of your depression
etc

i hope you're one of the lucky ones who really does just have a glandular problem

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

Guys my heart has been dropping for like 7 yr's A pastor said it was the conviction of the Holy spirit but as I did some research I looked and found that some ppl have had feelings like I'm describing. It's not your normal fast heart rate rather it is like the feeling when your about to get in a car wreck and your heart drops.....I have had so much depression and I have had so many mood swings that it's hard to keep up with all this. I am under so much stress which could be the klonopin withdrawal but, my interest is more leading me to this since I have had this symptom for 7 yr's and I know the tests like blood test are supposed to find it but, also that it can be missed and I have only had about 15 blood tests since 05 and most of them where on full stomachs and not fasting. So I'm calling my MD tommorrow and seeing if this is something they can look into. Also I know I have voices so I will probaly have to be on some meds but this could be the answer I have been looking for.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:37 PM

You don't have to fast for a thyroid blood test.  Also, thyroid issues don't cause voices.  If you just stopped Klonopin. that could explain your anxiety.  But if you think it might be thyroid related, you can always call your doctor and ask for a thyroid pannel. 


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#25 melissaw72

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:39 AM

It could be thyroid-related:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....cles/PMC419396/


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:43 PM

Thyroid levels at extremes can cause psychosis and mood changes. I have hashimato's and I too was hoping it was the cure to my problems, however, when my levels balanced out I still have mood issues, which does nothing but confirm my schizoaffective diagnosis. What makes it even worse is there is a wide-level of accepted thyroid TSH ranges. You could still have symptoms because your number is to low or high (within the accepted range). Also, some people need T3 in combination with T4. 


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:52 PM

I was told today that my test results showed that I need more hormones and I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes and MDD. I don't know much about any of it really just that I have struggled with the depression part for close to 15 years. If there is any good info out there I would love to read it 



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Posted 01 December 2014 - 03:48 PM

I have Hashi's too and take Armour for it. It hasn't really improved my mental conditions, but improved other stuff like my sensitivity to cold. I wonder sometimes if my dose is high enough. My endocrinologist said my numbers were ok, we're just treating the symptoms. Hmm. I take 2 grains a day.



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Posted 02 December 2014 - 02:19 AM

I agree with rain.  It's likely that the OP has both MI and hypothyroidism.  The meds worked because they worked on the MI, the thyroid issue is just a new compounding issue that has to be corrected because it, in itself, can cause MI issues.

 

Correcting underlying thyroid issues won't correct MI.  It can only correct whatever additional psych issues, if any, the thyroid issue is causing.

 

For what it's worth, I take Armour Thyroid (the T4, T3, T2, T1 pig thyroid hormone).  Docs don't think T2 or T1 does anything, but a properly functioning thyroid creates them.  In hypothyroidism treated only with T4 (aka Synthroid)... even with proper T3 conversion, there would be a lack of T2 & T1.  I think it's possible that the reason why some do better on Synthroid vs Armour is due to antibodies.

 

If you have an antibody reaction to your thyroid chemicals, having four would make the reaction worse than having one/two (the T4/T3).  However, only some people with thyroid disease have antibodies.  In that case, they could do better with the more well-rounded treatment of the Armour Thyroid that provides all the thyroid hormones.  I have no scientific proof, but that's my pet theory as to why some do better on one than the other.

 

I think there are enough personal reports of that to conclude that it's a real thing that one med can react better with a person over the other.

 

Many docs prefer Synthroid over Armour Thyroid due to no real reason besides it being "newer", but when I brought up the question of why Synthroid may be preferable to docs over Armour to a well-respected Mayo endo, he said that the reason (in his mind) is that some people over medicate themselves with Armour due to the immediate T3 making them feel "better"... and they go hyperthyroid.  He also said that the TSH of people on Armour seemed to fluctuate more than Synthroid.  Looking at FDA recalls of synthroid and not armour over the years - I think the fluctuation and over-medication is one in the same.  People use more and then run out.  Of course their levels would fluctuate.

 

The main reason I went on Armour to begin with was that the recalls of Synthroid were so bad, I was having trouble getting it.  And all the recalls were due to the med being stronger or weaker than it was supposed to be.  The FDA also didn't seem to catch it until the batch was near expiration -- meaning most people had already used it.  I think that's the true reason people's TSH levels fluctuate so often.  I don't think that's as normal as doctors think.

 

Anyway after 5 months, I asked for Armour instead of Synthroid because I was tired of the drama of trying to fill it.  Ultimately, I felt better on it.

 

In terms of throwing up on Synthroid, I don't know why that would happen... but it is "created".  It's possible that there's some artificial component that doesn't agree with you and Armour wouldn't have the same reaction.  It's in no way a guarantee, but it's easy enough to try.

 


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#30 Wooster

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 11:14 PM

 

 

 It's likely that the OP has both MI and hypothyroidism.

 

Are you qualified to make diagnoses over the internet?

 

Please remember that we talk about our own experiences because we are a first person peer support site.

 

Appropriate responses would be things like "When I had similar symptoms, we found out it was X, Y, and Z."


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#31 Cetkat

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 12:43 AM

I apologize Woo.

 

I should have phrased it that way.  I do have both.  The main point I was trying to get across is that I've never heard of MI meds working for hypothyroidism.  It's totally different.  I have to take meds for my MI and a completely different med for my hypothyroidism.  No MI treatment has ever helped my thyroid condition - it's just not meant to do so.  Thyroid treatment is very specific, so the fact the the OP had MI relief from regular MI treatment says to me that there are two different elements at play.  You just can't treat hypothyroidism with MI meds.

 

So, when she worries that the positive MI effect from MI meds is the result from a newly dx'd thyroid condition rather than having MI... I think that if hypothyroidism is the main condition, MI meds cannot and will not correct that.  If they do help, that's a major sign that there's more going on than a thyroid condition.

 

Edit: I did read it as someone who has had a thyroid disorder dx'd and is now wondering it's it is the cause of the MI...  upon further look, I'm not sure the thyroid part was diagnosed as the MI was stated to be.


Edited by Cetkat, 06 December 2014 - 12:47 AM.

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Dx: Major Depression w/ Dysthymia, Panic Disorder, GAD, ADHD, Fibromyalgia
Pdoc's Theory Dx: Bipolar NOS (MDD with BP traits w/o hypo or mania)
Rx : Emsam 12mg/24hr, Strattera 80mg, Lyrica 150mg, Armour Thyroid 120mg (2 gr), Zofran prn, Nadolol prn, Xanax prn, Methocarbamol 750mg prn, D3 4,000IU
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