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#41 User is offline   Steve@3AM 

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 01:55 PM

Rock -

I doubt there is any connection. From the appearance of the article it is part of a planned out series so it would have had to have been started quite a while back as far as the "researching" and writing are concerned. The whole series would have to be ready to go.

Also from this part it looks like she was probably just trolling as she mentioned a couple other sites, too.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:20 PM

Having been a journalist in a former life I have to agree with much of what has been said vis-a-vis the NYT. Journalists are not objective -- no matter how hard they try. The choice of words and the perspective they present are all functions of what has happened to them throughout their lives (ok, perhaps I've had too much existential therapy). All media are like this. However, the old grey lady ain't what she used to be. There have been far too many Judith Millers and Jayson Blairs at the NYT (and elsewhere). They fail to get their facts, they don't get them right, the copy editor changes it....in short, they dont spend a lot of time on something and act as if they think they know everything.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:34 PM

VE, I think your coffee pot is underneath Zon's crock pot, which has hidden itself beneath her refrigerator.

Is the thing at the top of the page (CB page, appears everywhere on the site) supposed to be a link?  Cause it doesn't work.

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#44 User is offline   Steve@3AM 

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:35 PM

My reply to the author was - in part - that I used to think print journalism had more integrity than TV "journalism". It probably still does - but they're getting closer. And that doesn't mean that TV journalists are GAINING!
"At the sound of the beep, it will be Three O'clock. She said that for over an hour and I hung up." Bob Dylan

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"Now the standard cure for one who is sunk is to consider those in actual destitution or physical suffering  --  this is an all-weather beatitude for gloom in general and fairly salutary day-time advice for everyone.
But at three o'clock in the morning, a forgotten package has the same tragic importance as a death sentence, and the cure doesn't work  --  and in a real dark night of the soul it is always three o'clock in the morning, day after day."
F. Scott Fitzgerald

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:39 PM

CS -

Maybe THEY (the nebulous and ominous "they") BROKE the link because they were geting too much mail from this site! That would be good. :)

Link worked for me. Did you get nothing or just the page that tells you you need to register?
"At the sound of the beep, it will be Three O'clock. She said that for over an hour and I hung up." Bob Dylan

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"Now the standard cure for one who is sunk is to consider those in actual destitution or physical suffering  --  this is an all-weather beatitude for gloom in general and fairly salutary day-time advice for everyone.
But at three o'clock in the morning, a forgotten package has the same tragic importance as a death sentence, and the cure doesn't work  --  and in a real dark night of the soul it is always three o'clock in the morning, day after day."
F. Scott Fitzgerald

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:46 PM

No, it's not functioning as a link.  My mouse turns into a hand with a pointy finger when I roll over a link.  On this, it turns into a cursor (like in a word-processing program).
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 04:37 PM

Don't know what to say. I still get the finger! :)

"Cursors! Foiled again!"

If you haven't been able to read the article I can TRY (not very good with computer stuff sometimes) to copy it and e-mail it to you - or maybe the person above (forgot!) who e-mailed it to someone else still has it stored and can do the same for you. Let me know and I can try.

Steve
"At the sound of the beep, it will be Three O'clock. She said that for over an hour and I hung up." Bob Dylan

Dx (per Amen Clinic) Temporal lobe dysfunction, ADHD, NOS, Dysthymia and "abnormal brain scan". -  like Abby Normal in Young Frankenstein!

Meds:  Currently none. Trying to rely on therapy alone.

"Now the standard cure for one who is sunk is to consider those in actual destitution or physical suffering  --  this is an all-weather beatitude for gloom in general and fairly salutary day-time advice for everyone.
But at three o'clock in the morning, a forgotten package has the same tragic importance as a death sentence, and the cure doesn't work  --  and in a real dark night of the soul it is always three o'clock in the morning, day after day."
F. Scott Fitzgerald

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:10 PM

CrazySoprano, on Nov 16 2005, 03:34 PM, said:

Is the thing at the top of the page (CB page, appears everywhere on the site) supposed to be a link?  Cause it doesn't work.

I looked at the HTML for the page, and it looks like it's meant to be a link, but it's slightly screwed up, so it doesn't work.  I can't do anything about it, though, and I'm not sure who specifically can and can't.  So it goes.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:16 PM

It still worked for me so I copied it and PM'd it (I hope) To CS.
"At the sound of the beep, it will be Three O'clock. She said that for over an hour and I hung up." Bob Dylan

Dx (per Amen Clinic) Temporal lobe dysfunction, ADHD, NOS, Dysthymia and "abnormal brain scan". -  like Abby Normal in Young Frankenstein!

Meds:  Currently none. Trying to rely on therapy alone.

"Now the standard cure for one who is sunk is to consider those in actual destitution or physical suffering  --  this is an all-weather beatitude for gloom in general and fairly salutary day-time advice for everyone.
But at three o'clock in the morning, a forgotten package has the same tragic importance as a death sentence, and the cure doesn't work  --  and in a real dark night of the soul it is always three o'clock in the morning, day after day."
F. Scott Fitzgerald

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:22 PM

It works in some of the skins and not others.

When I asked maddy if she could put that up I didn't realize it would mean editing all the skins by hand.


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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:32 PM

Mr. Elvis, Mr. Marshall, and Members,

After reading Mr. Elvis’ initial post, I too read the New York Times article (on line) “Young, Assured and Playing Pharmacist to Friends”
http://www.nytimes.c...ml?pagewanted=1
(It is on page 3 where “crazy boards” is first mentioned…)
http://www.nytimes.c...ml?pagewanted=3

I am sure that my response will be fairly unpopular with most for it goes against a lot of comments, general thoughts, and feelings that have been recently expressed on this board. I am sorry that those who where interviewed by the New York Times feel they where mislead. Similar to a police interrogation, embellishing or running circles around the truth is something very common in journalism reporting. (It always has been…)  Despite the over all tone and setting…yes, the article does talk about the many different ways that patients (focusing mainly on generation “y” …ages 25 and under) are taking an “active role” in their physical and mental health care.

Of course no one likes it when they are shown in an unfavorable light or another delicts them in some way. I don’t like it and I can’t think of a person that I know who does. As someone who has only been a member for a few weeks, I personally did not find the article too misleading.  Certainly, the supervising management of “crazy boards” doesn’t support, endorse, or regulate those who wish to self-medicate or illegally obtain prescription medications. However, I have seen some of the messages where someone might question if they where looking to buy or sell medications. Then by having the personal message (pm’s) option while discussing licensed/prescribed medications, the door is left open for skeptics and/or skepticism as to what might be going on.

There have been more then a few times that I have been asked my diagnosis or what prescriptions I am on… for they are things that are regularly discussed on the message boards. Anytime a national newspaper journalist wants to run an article about the top cowchip throwing, flannel shirt wearing, and alcohol consumption  State or University…in the Nation… Wisconsin always takes a hit. Some how year after year one of them always makes a good story out of it... You'll need to pull up your boot straps and not worry about the dung so much. We all get a 'lil poo on our shoes once in a while.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:59 PM

Heya,

I read the article. Link worked for me.

This bugs me largely because it's sloppy.

I wrote a letter to the editor but under an assumed email.

I hope they think about a followup article.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:10 PM

Oh my God.  They quoted my post in this article.  I feel so incredibly violated right now that it's not even funny.  This REALLY makes me not want to post anymore...I'm already freaking paranoid and this does NOT help.  And they quoted completely out of context...yes, I asked for an increased dosage of fluoxetine, but they make it sound like I was asking just for the hell of it and not because it wasn't working for me at the dosage I was using.  Oh my God.  Definitely no more signing my real first name.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:15 PM

altopower, on Nov 16 2005, 09:10 PM, said:

Oh my God.  They quoted my post in this article[....] And they quoted completely out of context.[...]Definitely no more signing my real first name.

I'm sorry your words were taken out of context.  You are in a better position than most to send a complaint to the New York Times.  The contact information is displayed on an earlier page of this thread.  As for not using your real first name... good idea.  Like the bad joke says, 'just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.'  :ninja:  
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:27 PM

It wasn't the link in VE's original post.  That was fine.  And I've read the article.  In fact, I'm the one who PM'd it to insideOut.

The link at the top of the page works now.  BTW, I use the default skin.

Altopower~ I really don't think they should have used your real name without your express permission.  That's not cool.

~CS

Edited to add:

You make a good point, BOYD.  Doesn't matter what the article says as long as they spell our name right.  If we get new members from this, it's a good thing.

This post has been edited by CrazySoprano: 16 November 2005 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 10:35 PM

wifezilla, on Nov 16 2005, 08:57 AM, said:

They were obviously looking to follow a specific angle. But overall, it wasn't bad. Just not a true depiction of what this site is all about.


The NY Times article led me to your website becasue I hoped to buy my Wellbutrin SR online since I have nonexistant health insurance and cannot afford to go back to my physician. Oh yes, I live in the middle of nowhere and have been depressed for years and have been attempting to relocate.  Better dead than red, ya know...

If anyone has some good information, I would like to know.  If the article is accurate on the demographics then most of you are Gen Xers and my son's age.  I am a boomer, alas but I got to get out of this right-wing, gun-fanatic, pro-military area.  Thanks.  Minnie's Mom (she's my Basset) or Mason's Mom (he's my son).

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 10:38 PM

Yes, so true it is only team work that can and should be used to help ourselves. In the quest to help myself, as well as my daughter, any reference to the "Internet" in general regarding my information was disregarded as 'self-dx'ing' etc. My GP who is the one "managing" my eternal anxiety, had to go look it up for himself, when I walked in with a printout from the "internet--ooooh" that said I had edema from the Zyprexa he had added to my Xanax --"to calm me down from the stress of moving, blah blah blah." He (doctor)was annoyed that I researched anything at all, emphasizing to me that "at least once a day" patients walk in with internet information. Well my answer to that was the Package insert is online in PDF form now doctor....in my latest attempts to lend a voice to help my daughter who is still hospitalized, the doctors appear to be finally speaking to each other with regards to a Psychiatric group of doctors who have all seen my daughter at some time, due to on-call, etc. I remain a fixture in the background, jumping up and down and waving, over here, over here, but she reacts this way to that med, and I live with her...let the article say what it says, the truth is, that unless walked in these shoes, no one really knows what is right, or how it feels. I really hate it when articles misrepresent what someone was trying to say. I would suspect, that with that press though, you will probably find more people reading this site and eventually joining, remember bad press is usually better press for gaining attention to something.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 10:56 PM

juanitah, on Nov 16 2005, 09:35 PM, said:

wifezilla, on Nov 16 2005, 08:57 AM, said:

They were obviously looking to follow a specific angle. But overall, it wasn't bad. Just not a true depiction of what this site is all about.


The NY Times article led me to your website becasue I hoped to buy my Wellbutrin SR online since I have nonexistant health insurance and cannot afford to go back to my physician. Oh yes, I live in the middle of nowhere and have been depressed for years and have been attempting to relocate.  Better dead than red, ya know...

If anyone has some good information, I would like to know.  If the article is accurate on the demographics then most of you are Gen Xers and my son's age.  I am a boomer, alas but I got to get out of this right-wing, gun-fanatic, pro-military area.  Thanks.  Minnie's Mom (she's my Basset) or Mason's Mom (he's my son).


Have you tried the resources listed here?


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Posted 17 November 2005 - 01:11 AM

I'd be interested in a post by the higher ups (Admins?) on the traffic increase today as a result of the NY Times article.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 03:08 AM

yo123, on Nov 17 2005, 12:11 AM, said:

I'd be interested in a post by the higher ups (Admins?) on the traffic increase today as a result of the NY Times article.


Well. 131 new users.  No such thing as bad publicity I guess.


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