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Long story, I went through hell and back and finally was diagnosed with Adult ADD... a few days ago I started Adderall, I am feeling better, the "fog" has lifted, but the energy is not there.... do you all think 5mg. 2x daily is a super dooper low dose? I want to feel like "my OLD self" energetic, happy and nutty, not depressed, never leaving the house and crying all the time....

whatcha think other adderall users? I am curious of the "average" dose.

Thank you!

Terrylee  ;)

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Assuming you mean the instant release version, this pdf from Shire says that 20 mg of Adderall XR is equal to 10 mg Adderall (immediate-release) taken twice a day. Which you're on the equivalent of 10 mg Adderall XR.

This same pdf also says that the maximum child dose of Adderall XR is 30 mg.

I myself take 20 mg Adderall XR.

So, yeah, I'm surprised you're getting any effect at all.

Edit: As of June 21, I've been taking 30 mg a day.

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Well, I think it's not useful to think about an average dose, but 5mg is a low dose. You may want to spend some time, like a week or two, at the low dose before moving it up, unless you want to spend time bouncing off the ceiling. At least if you're like me. My ideal dose is somewhere between 10 and 15mg twice a day, I think, but I wouldn't have been able to handle that at first. I know someone who takes 60mg at a time who's about my size. Not sure if he takes XR or the regular stuff. There's a lot of variation. Not necessarily related strictly to body mass.

Those other symptoms say to me that you might also need an antidepressant. It's my understanding that the antidepressant effect of stimulants is temporary. The emotional and mental effects of the combination I'm on are impressive. Unfortunately, the side effects are impressive, too, although maybe not as seen from the outside. But worth it, and easier to deal with as time goes by.

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Those other symptoms say to me that you might also need an antidepressant.

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I was thinking exactly the same thing as I was reading your post. If you have ADD, you've always had ADD. Maybe you've been able to cope with it better during various times of your life, but it's not something that comes and goes like depression can. So your "old self" wouldn't be much different than your current self (unmedicated, of course).

The comorbidy rates of depression and ADD seems to be very, very high. Not surprising as both conditions can be caused by premature depletion of some of the same neurotransmitters. Or maybe it's just that the everyday stress of living life with ADD is enough to make anyone depressed!

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I agree with the replies so far. I started on 5mg twice daily (generic) Adderall too. I might as well have swallowed a tic tac. 10mg - same story. Now I'm on 15mg twice a day, and if I take it on an empty stomach, with water and nothing to eat for an hour after I take it, I may actually be starting to see some improvement.  Does caffeine or sugar have any affect on you? - just curious.

Cranky

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I take XR 20 mg per day.

Rhonda

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Thank you all for your replies!

I am not on the XR, and hopefully the Doc can up it after the "60 day trial"... (He post dated the 2nd prescription as it is NOT refillable) Do most of you have to drive in once a month for a darn script?

Also, I am on Effexor, which he says should give me more energy??? I take them at night as they actually make me tired....

I was on seroquel, he took that away when he gave me the adderalls....

And it's strange now that it's been a couple weeks, somedays they seem to work better than others! Same dosage... it's soooooooo tempting just to take a couple more to get more done but I don't want to get addicted or run out b4 time....

Thanks again, and you all have a stress free wonderful 4th of July!  ;)

Terrylee

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P.S. Sorry, I screwed that up, I am NOT on XR, and I am taking TWO of the 5MG TWO times a day, so that is 10mg twice a day.

Is this a low dose? I barely feel it, could lay down and nap right now!  ;) Yawn............

Thank you all!!!!

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Yes, those Schedule II controlled substances (including Adderall) are a pain.  My former pdoc required that I actually schedule a visit with him each time he prescribed the Adderall.

Now I take Concerta, which is also Schedule II controlled substance.  My g.p. prescribes it, and although I do not have to visit him, I still have to call his voice mail once per month and physically go to the clinic to pick up the written prescription.

5 mg of Adderall twice a day is a low dose.  Of course, different people respond to different dosages.

The average dose?  Well, there is no average dose.  Probably as low as 15 mg per day to as high as 20 mg twice per day is typically effective.

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Yes, those Schedule II controlled substances (including Adderall) are a pain.  My former pdoc required that I actually schedule a visit with him each time he prescribed the Adderall.

Now I take Concerta, which is also Schedule II controlled substance.  My g.p. prescribes it, and although I do not have to visit him, I still have to call his voice mail once per month and physically go to the clinic to pick up the written prescription.

5 mg of Adderall twice a day is a low dose.  Of course, different people respond to different dosages.

The average dose?  Well, there is no average dose.  Probably as low as 15 mg per day to as high as 20 mg twice per day is typically effective.

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Wow. My pdoc was very lax about that kind of stuff. He would give me about 3-4 months worth of adderall prescriptions so i didn't have to come in. Usally during the summer when the school didn't have pdoc hours or over winter break. Its amazing how some pdoc's are tightasses about stuff and others don't care and give stuff out like candy. Which can be bad.

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The monthly visit for scripts is true for me too....

And just for the record, I'm going from 30mg regular Adderall in the morning, and 30mg 5 hrs later, to 40mg at each dose.  I agree that sometimes the stuff seems to work, and sometimes it doesn't - with the same dose, taken at the same time of day, with water and nothing to eat an hour before or after the dose.

I may ask the pdoc to let me try the XR next time if 40mg doesn't work well. The effect of 30 mg didn't last very long when it worked.

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Even when I KNOW the Adderall is working, sometimes I get sleepy at the same time. Or I've had the experience of wanting to either nap or do something useful, but definitely not wanting to just goof off!  I've noticed that the stuff doesn't always act the same on me. I've always thought that had to do with what was going on in my stomach, but maybe not. Sometimes I'll have it with a broken off piece of a Tums to give it more zip. Or a bigger piece if I've been drinking cola or OJ. But I don't want to do that a whole lot, I think. Don't know what it would do to my digestion if I did.

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My story is pretty much the same.  I started with Concerta which didn't work well at all for me.  Then we started Adderall, 10 mg of the regular stuff.  I could see an improvement but it seemed to wear off after about 4 hours.  The pdoc switched to the XR, and over the course of time I ended up at 40mg of XR in the morning.  This works for me well all day and at night I have no trouble sleeping.  I wish all my other meds worked as well as this stuff does.  Like you, my pdoc is weird about the Rx's.  I have to physically be in her office and SEE her to get a prescription.  Makes it a pain in the ass.  My wife's doc gives her 4 post dated prescriptions at a time.  My pdoc looked at me in horror when I told her that.  So it's great stuff, but just a pain when it comes to the monthly refill.  As far as the average dose?  There may not be one.  Everyone is different.  A good friend of mine takes 80 mgs of XR daily.  My wife's friend takes 10 mg XR daily.  She has for a year now.  So just work your way to a point where it works for you.

Dan~

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Doses are VERY differeny for different folks, some take 5mgs IR 2x aday while i read of a narcoleptic recently who takes 2 30mg IR tabs 4x aday=240mg, and he still is tired!!-his Doc told him to not ask for more! althought he is probably tolerant to the Amphetamines. I know of a chap who takes 80mgs of Desoxyn (Methamphetamine Hcl) daily-the most potent of the Amphetamines.

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Hello!

I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and started on the non XR 5 mg of Adderall 2x a day. Now I'm up to 15mg in the am, 15 around noon, 5 mg around 3:00 and 5 mg around 7:00. I'm a 26 yr old female. I'm 5'4" and weigh 120lbs. Is that a lot?

I also don't feel like my old "bubbly" self anymore. Does it really have to do with depression? I want to keep taking Adderall because it definitely helps but I feel so boring. I talked to my psych and he told me that that's being normal and I'm just not used to it. I'm not sure how I feel about that answer...

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Long story, I went through hell and back and finally was diagnosed with Adult ADD... a few days ago I started Adderall, I am feeling better, the "fog" has lifted, but the energy is not there.... do you all think 5mg. 2x daily is a super dooper low dose? I want to feel like "my OLD self" energetic, happy and nutty, not depressed, never leaving the house and crying all the time....

whatcha think other adderall users? I am curious of the "average" dose.

Thank you!

Terrylee  ;)

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Long story, I went through hell and back and finally was diagnosed with Adult ADD... a few days ago I started Adderall, I am feeling better, the "fog" has lifted, but the energy is not there.... do you all think 5mg. 2x daily is a super dooper low dose? I want to feel like "my OLD self" energetic, happy and nutty, not depressed, never leaving the house and crying all the time....

whatcha think other adderall users? I am curious of the "average" dose.

Thank you!

Terrylee  ;)

I take 20 miligrams in the morning..but by dinner time Im crashing. I cant complain. Its the best I have felt in months. But Im thinking that 20 in the morning and 10 in the afternoon would help. But then sleeping is another story. I avearage 6 hours a night...but Im not tired after taking the adderol.

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I just wanted to say that i was diagnosed with adhd my senior year in highschool, and i started to take strattera but never really saw any effects and just stopped taking it, now i am a junior in college majoring in engineering, so i went back to the doctor and this time he put me on Adderall XR, i take a 20 mg tablet once a day at breakfast, But i feel like it wears off and other times i feel like it just doesn't work the same, what could be the cause of that. and what does pdoc and g.p. stand for?

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Yes, those Schedule II controlled substances (including Adderall) are a pain.  My former pdoc required that I actually schedule a visit with him each time he prescribed the Adderall.

Now I take Concerta, which is also Schedule II controlled substance.  My g.p. prescribes it, and although I do not have to visit him, I still have to call his voice mail once per month and physically go to the clinic to pick up the written prescription.

5 mg of Adderall twice a day is a low dose.  Of course, different people respond to different dosages.

The average dose?  Well, there is no average dose.  Probably as low as 15 mg per day to as high as 20 mg twice per day is typically effective.

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I still have to call his voice mail once per month and physically go to the clinic to pick up the written prescription.

This is the law, not a Dr. being difficult

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Hello, my name is Brandon and I take 30mg of adderall IR twice a day. I feel as if my doctor does not know what she is doing. This is a very high dose of amphetamines and it could cause me to become addicted.

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Hello, my name is Brandon and I take 30mg of adderall IR twice a day. I feel as if my doctor does not know what she is doing. This is a very high dose of amphetamines and it could cause me to become addicted.

Some people take considerably more, for ADHD or for narcolepsy. But, if you feel you are taking much more than you really need to function, talk to your doctor about a dose reduction.

(Only) With a stimulant, many doctors would have little problem with you splitting a pill (taking half in the morning, half later,) for a couple of weeks to see if you would do just as well or better. For your own sake, since we can assume your memory sux, you'll want to set up something equivalent to "mood charting" - starting well before the dosage change - to have a concrete measurement of how you do on the higher and lower dosages.

If you go about it reasonably and have a plan (i.e., don't tell her you think she's an idiot! Unless you already have, in which cased you're screwed,) your doctor may be receptive to a discussion of dosage changes.

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Long story, I went through hell and back and finally was diagnosed with Adult ADD... a few days ago I started Adderall, I am feeling better, the "fog" has lifted, but the energy is not there.... do you all think 5mg. 2x daily is a super dooper low dose? I want to feel like "my OLD self" energetic, happy and nutty, not depressed, never leaving the house and crying all the time....

whatcha think other adderall users? I am curious of the "average" dose.

Thank you!

Terrylee  ;)

I'm in the same boat and was prescribed 20MG and my first 24 hours I had amazing focus but low energy and only got 3 hours of sleep. Anyone know a good recommended dosage?

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i am on 30 mg 2x/day and it works wonderfully...remember that amphetamines increase dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin in the synapse...so you don't need an additional anti depressant if you are on the right dose...if you achieve the maximum dose you should actually start to feel less depressed...if after being on the maximun dose for 2-3 weeks you still feel kind of depressed then you might want to add something that affcts the GABA-a receptor such as prozac...other anti depressants such as SSRI's can be dangerous and cause something called "serotonin toxicity" because the amphetamines increase the amount of dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin released while SSRI's stop the reuptake of serotonin...the combination of extra serotonin and reduced reuptake can be bad...

studying neuroscience at Columbia university ;)

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Hello, my name is Brandon and I take 30mg of adderall IR twice a day. I feel as if my doctor does not know what she is doing. This is a very high dose of amphetamines and it could cause me to become addicted.

30 mg is not really such a high dose as it is still a sub euphoric dose...other related amphetamines (such as ecstasy which is d-amphetamine with a methoxy group attached to the 3 and 4 position on the benzene ring) and the normal therapeutic dose is about 40-75mg and the euphoric dose is about 90-150mg (amphetamines are weight dependent with MDMA theraputic doses being .75 mg/kg and euphoric doses are 1.5 mg/kg...it seems that adderall works out to be about .25 to .50 mg/kg)...i participated in one of my professors research studies and was given 50 mg of MDMA 3x (ecstasy) and 100 mg 3x...as an experiment i took a bunch of adderall and it took 120 mg to be about equal to 50 mg MDMA (which was very weak and sub euphoric for me but someone who weighs less it may be a bit different)...amphetamines do not have a high potential for addiction (cigarettes then heroin then crack cocaine have the highest potentials)...also anyone who has had a good research professor as a teacher (mine does research on stimulants and some non stimulant drugs) then you would know that the most important factor in how addictive something is is route of administration...so injecting is more than smoking which is far more than snorting which is far more than oral administration...another factor in addiction (defined as "drug dependent" as stated in the DSM-IV-TR) is brain chemistry...some people just have a higher likelihood than others...drug dependence has much to do with dopamine spikes in the nucleus accumbens and the caudate putamen (a projection of the sub stantia nigra)..and smoking cause a much more rapid onset and decline than does oral administration and thus smoking has a higher potential...so it is very unlikely that you are going to become addicted taking 30 mg...

in answer to the person on 5mg 2x/day i would go up to 15 mg 2x/day for 10-14 days and if is still not enough then go to 20 mg 2x/day

studying neuroscience at Columbia university..

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