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I know this is sort of disgusting, but every morning I have loose bowels. I'm not eating or drinking anything that would cause this. I'm on Lamictal and Abilfy. Has this happened to anyone else???

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I had exploding diarrhea for 4 months, so I have no problem getting graphic. How loose is loose? Still semi-solid, completely smooth or really watery? How long has this been going on? Does the timing coincide with any med/dosage change? Is it only in the AM or all day?

Mine turned out to be microscopic colitis, but I kind of think it may have been Cymbalta too. The timing was too perfect. I went off the cymbalta and took some antibiotic for the MC and was healed. Not before having to have a colonoscopy, but whatever. I got to see a pic of my large intestine.

Things to avoid: Raw veggies - veggies in general - milk products - eggs - realllly fatty stuff or fried stuff - spicy foods.

Things to eat: BRAT diet - Bananas, WHITE RICE!! (I cannot stress enough that white rice was my savior), apples and toast. I didn't take well to the apples or bananas, but that's me. Drink massive water, diluted gatorade is even better. Ginger ale rocks if your tummy is upset.

Most importantly - tell your doc. And if it continues even if you try to treat it, go see a specialist asap. Once I saw my first doc, it was another month and a half of having an exploding ass while the diagnosis was happening.

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It's only in the morning and I get bad abdominal pain before. It can be just loose or it can be watery. It's usually just two or three times every morning. It's wierd for me as I used to be constipated all the time. I should have asked my pdoc about it the other day.

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Watery is not good. That means that the intestines are really unhappy about something and are trying to flush it out as fast as possible. Make sure you don't get dehydrated, as that is a worry. Did you take anything (fiber supplements etc) for the constipation? That could have pissed off your colon (which is the another name for the lower large intestine- I've learned so much!)

Call Pdoc - but I don't think Lamictal or Abilify would do this. After you talk to him/her, go to the regular doc. They will probably have you poop in a cup (most. horrible. ever.) and do blood tests. But watery is bad and you should get it taken care of!

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The loose thing after constipation, may be the beginning of Irritable bowel syndrome too. I laughed the malady off until I wound up in the hospital with a nasty case of dehydration and vital mineral/vitamine depletion. Ok, don't take my word, because I'm not a doctor, but I was told by a nurse that your bowels go to screen saver mode when you sleep. I cannot stress how important it is to keep hydrated and get to a doctor. Sorry, I am not quite awake, but I don't want another soul in the hospital due to this. The fact that it only occurs in the morning is baffling to me. Have you tried any thing for the constipation? how long has the loose bowels gone on? Lamictal gave me icky tummmy and bloat, I have no exprience with Abilify.Ummm...baby food bananas really helped me with the fruit thing and baked potatoes and cream of rice. BUT YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR BLEEDING DOCTOR...ok LOL, ask me about trying to poop into a small zip lock bag if you want inspiration. ;)

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Heya Waterfall,

When do you have a doctor's appointment?

Hydration, tests, etc.

One of the main functions of the colon is to absorb water from the stool. If the lining is damaged, it absorbs less water and the stool becomes more watery. If the lining is irritated (think of a rash) it sometimes absorbs water and sometimes doesn't.

Watery often follows an infection, and can go on after the infection has cleared. The lining of the gut gets damaged and takes its time repairing itself, so can't absorb water as efficiently as it should.

Inflammation has a similar effect on the gut lining and can produce similar watery stool.

Irritable bowel can for sure produce the watery/crampy morning pattern you describe.

There are worse types of diarrhea than watery, namely bloody or black or fatty.

(I know, ick, but this is an icky thread.)

Not sure this looks like a med effect to me but what was the timing of medications relating to the onset of this gut problem? Particularly Abilify. (Monograph mentions constipation but not diarrhea.)

When do you take meds, and is there anything else you take? What's your diet like?

Also, any antibiotics in the last month or so? Travel history? Alcohol? Been overnight in a hospital or nursing home?

(Those are all questions you'll be asked.)

Main thing besides hydration and dietary measures is that even when your stool tests and bloods are normal, you still end up getting a scope, which is not so bad b/c most GIs will sedate you.

--ncc--

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It hasn't been watery in a while, just cramps and urgent loose bowels. Should I still go to the doctor? I haven't been in a hospital, taken antibiotics or traveled. I'm just here, not eating or drinking anything caustic or overyly fiberous. Whatever it is, it's driving me nuts.

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Should I still go to the doctor?
Yup. I don't think it will clear up by itself. Once you get better you will be SO relieved!

(white rice, white rice, white rice...)

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Heya Waterfall,

It hasn't been watery in a while, just cramps and urgent loose bowels. Should I still go to the doctor? I haven't been in a hospital, taken antibiotics or traveled. I'm just here, not eating or drinking anything caustic or overyly fiberous. Whatever it is, it's driving me nuts.

Yes.

The answer is always Yes.

If you're concerned, if it's not normal, if it's bugging you, go see a doctor.

(Read that in my *sternest* trust-me-I'm-a-doctor voice.)

--ncc--

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I added yogurt to my diet, and the loose bowels are gone! Doc thinks I have IBS. Thanks for all the replies!

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Heya Waterfall,

Glad it's better.

Sometimes the simple answer is the most useful one.

IBS can really suck, but it's manageable.

And really common for some reason.

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I know this topic is all resolved, so I'm sorry to bump it back to the top, but I just wanted to say that I love this place. Y'all aren't afraid of the icky stuff.

I've had this problem, too, the um, watery explosive diahrrea, since I've been on generic metformin prescribed for prediabetes. It's worse in the morning after breakfast, but happens at least 2-3 times throughout the day. My general physician is aware of the problem, but he says he can live with it as long as it's not happening 5-6 times a day, which is really understanding of him since he's not the one spending 20 minutes in the bathroom several times a day with coworkers wondering what might have happened.

I definitely do better on brand name versions of metformin (fortamet and glumetza are the two I've tried, but the copay is higher for those. I've had worse side effects, but it's still annoying and uncomfortable. I'm debating if I can afford the brand name meds.

Um, my apologies for the hijack, but thanks, Supergwen for the BRAT info.

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If you get tired of yogurt, you can get probiotics in capsule form.

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Beer. I have found that beer does it to me too, and I'm not talking about large amounts of it. No more beer for me!

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Beer. I have found that beer does it to me too, and I'm not talking about large amounts of it. No more beer for me!

beer will do that! (and other alcohol, in my experience)

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I'm not sure what inspired me to join this thread, it probably has something to do with the TMI I wanted to share with y'all.

<TMI>

On rare occasions, my colon has an identity crisis and thinks it's my bladder.

</TMI>

In any event, this comes and goes (sometimes alternating with Verstopfung), so I think I might qualify for a diagnosis of alternating IBS now. =P

(Either that or it's one of my meds: Provigil, Lamictal, Cymbalta, Lunesta, Remeron)

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Ok, no beer or alcohol and still loose. This is a pain in the ass. Literally!

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i have been suffering for the same reasons. the worst cramps (sometimes i think that this is what giving birth feels like!)

then, the lovely diarrhea, exploding. maybe happens 2-3 times before it becomes solid.

i am trying to keep a food diary to see what may set it off. could be lactose intolerant? fatty food? ibs?

have not looked for answers as of yet, so i am anxious to hear how you do.

hang in there!

kathy

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but he says he can live with it as long as it's not happening 5-6 times a day
My understanding is that this is NOT acceptable. If the colon isn't working correctly, then your whole body isn't working correctly. Get a 2nd opinion. Try a GI specialist.

<TMI>

On rare occasions, my colon has an identity crisis and thinks it's my bladder.

</TMI>

That is too funny. Laugh out loud at Herrfous' expense. Sorry!

the BRAT diet worked a bit for me - but white rice was a godsend. Until it cleared up, now I'm fine. I also went off the cymbalta, so who knows if it was the cymbalta or the microscopic colitis was unrelated. Don't know - don't care, because it's over! Get it taken care of, you will feel soooooo much better!

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I also have been living with loose stools since the first of August. I am gluten intolerant (that means no bread, pasta or beer) and gluten tends to give me constitapation, instead of the usual diarreah/loose stools. I went to France in July (to visit extended family) and was given french bread with every meal - breakfast only consisted of bread! - and didn't want to be rude, so I ate it. I didn't poop for 15 days. Now I can't quit. Sometimes I will go 5-6 times a day, and by that time there is blood on my toilet paper. Wow. Just reading this lets me know I need to go to the doctor. I am already under care for prediabeties brought on by Cymbalta (I have since quit taking it - and actually feel better), but I noticed the posts regarding prediabeties, Cymbalta, beer and loose stools. I also have low iron and B-12, probably due to malabsorbition, but my general practictioner doesn't really believe in that sort of thing - medical school tends to "poo poo" ;) the idea of Cealic diease, teaching that it is very rare. An intergrative medicine doctor is the one who diag. gluten intolerence, but that was in a different state.

Not much to add. Just wanted to chime in that I have the same issues.

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Do any of you consumer large amounts of products with artificial sweeteners? I was a heavy gum chewer & diet soda drinker for years & had a ton of stomach problems. I would get severe cramping & diarrhea regardless of what I ate several times a day. It wasn't until someone forwarded me an article about fake sugar that the light bulb went off. Since getting off that stuff my stomach is much better. I still have some problems but suspect that I might have ibs & know what will & will not set me off. I had a colonoscopy, ct scan, bloodwork & all checked out. Good luck to you...I know how stressful it can be. Hang in there

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It could be a lot of things but . . . let me toss in lactose intolerance as a possibility. The symptoms of lactose intolerance are cramps, diarrhea, and gas. You may not have all 3.

There are a few ways you can test this theory

1) stop eating dairy products for a while and see if it gets better

2) get lactase pills (e.g., Lactaid) and take them before consuming dairy products

Yogurt may cause symptoms or relieve them - it contains milk, but it also has Acidophilus bateria (which digest milk by producing lactase).

If the lactase pills work, try taking Acidophilus bacteria products. I'd start with Digestive Advantage Lactose Intolerance Therapy; if that works, then try generic Acidophilus pills.

Good luck.

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hi guys..

my name is david, i have just joined.. wondering if anyone has any knowledge of ssri medication use (anti depressants) and prolonged digestive issues?? i have been withdrawing from paxil now, for 8 years, i started at 20mgs and now at 2.9mgs.. i do however have stools that happen once a day, just after breakfast, but almost always loose now.. formed but watery/ loose..

i know these medications take to do with seratonin in the gut, and impact on liver fat function.. just wondered if anyone could help, i have had bloods done in the last 4 months, liver function fine, thyroid fine, kidney function ok, so not sure.. white rice does make a bit of difference, it's just things seem to get worse, when i reduce my medication, then, when things stabilise, my digestion seems to improve, marginally..not touched alcohol at all in 6 years, sugar craving is a big common thing at lower withdrawals on this crap, so i certainly like sugar at the moment, no diabetes in bloods either..

david

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I have IBS too, and my bowels are different every day and unpredictable. A lot has to do with what I eat/drink/vitamins. Anything sugar-free will cause bad gas and sometimes the runs (only temporarily though). I've been on meds for a long time, many different ones, and I cant remember any of them individually giving me a problem. In general I am mainly constipated, but the runs can happen at any given time, so I don't like doing things where there isn't a toilet nearby. Even going out for a walk I need to find areas for emergencies along the way (that's only happened twice though). Anywhere I go, I have to know that a toilet is nearby or I wont go.

If the problem doesn't go away though I would see a GI DR. I see mine maybe 2x a year, unless there is a problem, just to check in, get refills, so it doesn't take up a lot of time. And if I have a test done and it is normal, there is only one follow-up appt. My point being is that it is worth it to get a GI DR following you, in case the symptoms become worse or something; then there will be a DR there already.

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