Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
thymeandspace

lucid dreaming

39 posts in this topic

I'm new to crazy boards and thought I'd try posting a topic a little less depressing than the rest.

Alot of you seem to have problems with nightmares or maybe living in what you consider a bleak reality.

I think I have your answer.

Lucid dreaming is just about the most incredible thing ever. I started experiencing it very recently and I already know this is something I want for the rest of my life.

They are also really good for getting rid of nightmares. You face them head on, which at first is the epitome of your fear, but once you look your own fear in the face, its not so scary anymore. It's beautiful, really.

Has anyone here gotten good at lucid dreaming?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

it's probably a great remedy for night terrors. now if id only start reading that "exploring the world of lucid dreaming" book..

Edited by NullChamber

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

it's probably a great remedy for night terrors. now if id only start reading that "exploring the world of lucid dreaming" book..

Not only that, its good for anyone who wants to free run like in assasins creed, or jump off a mountain and fly all the way down knowing you wont get hurt, or shapeshifting and anything else imaginable

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I actually started exploring lucid dreaming in my early teens if not earlier, though I wasn't aware of what it was. I only remember waking up scared once when I was very young, since then I have observed my dreams but never been emotionally affected in any way. I'm woken up after some very disturbing and horrible dreams feeling like I just watched a cheesy horror flick.

It's actually an interesting point.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I actually started exploring lucid dreaming in my early teens if not earlier, though I wasn't aware of what it was. I only remember waking up scared once when I was very young, since then I have observed my dreams but never been emotionally affected in any way. I'm woken up after some very disturbing and horrible dreams feeling like I just watched a cheesy horror flick.

It's actually an interesting point.

thats awesome. did you ever try controlling them?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I never researched the topic in any real fashion, so I don't actively practice, it's just something I stumbled across in the pre-crazy years as a coping mechanism. I do often control them subconsciously, but I don't work to, nor do I really think about it. It's just been something I've done since I was little and feels natural.

Edited by Eden

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I never researched the topic in any real fashion, so I don't actively practice, it's just something I stumbled across in the pre-crazy years as a coping mechanism. I do often control them subconsciously, but I don't work to, nor do I really think about it. It's just been something I've done since I was little and feels natural.

well, coming from someone who works her ass off to lucid dream, you have an incredible skill/gift and im envious.

i recommend trying it out- you can use it for virtually anything from pure recreation to practicing social situations and getting over fears.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't know about all that, I have had lucid dreams where I was normal, happy and not anxious. It's easy to pretend, reality is far more harsh.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interesting topic. Chronic nightmare sufferer here. I stumbled on some info about lucid dreaming by accident and read that you can take some control over the dream outcome. So I kinda tucked that info into my internal "to do" list.

I've had a couple of lucid dreams since then. The first lucid dream… I was still frozen in sleep paralysis. Just couldn't break thru. But the next one I was able to interact in… just a little. It was scary… but I haven't had a nightmare since then. Weird.

That was only a couple of months ago. And while I'm not looking forward to "facing my fears"… I know now that I can. And am prepared to do so.

I think it'd be really cool to be able to have lucid dreams at will… but the good kind like you've talked about. One question I have about lucid dreaming is this…. If you're semi-concious during a lucid dream… is your body getting the right kind of restful sleep? Do you wake up tired or energized?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Almost all of my dreams are lucid dreams. :/ I think it can sometimes take the fun out of it, because when awesome things happen I always know I'm just dreaming it. However, it also means I get to do wonderful things in my dreams, such as explore old abandoned cities and pick my way through enchanted mazes and that kind of stuff.

... If I'm even getting the definition right. Is lucid dreaming when you know you're dreaming and can control your actions? My dreams have always been like this. Now that you mention it, it is kind of cool. I thought everyone dreamed the same way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Almost all of my dreams are lucid dreams. :/ I think it can sometimes take the fun out of it, because when awesome things happen I always know I'm just dreaming it. However, it also means I get to do wonderful things in my dreams, such as explore old abandoned cities and pick my way through enchanted mazes and that kind of stuff.

... If I'm even getting the definition right. Is lucid dreaming when you know you're dreaming and can control your actions? My dreams have always been like this. Now that you mention it, it is kind of cool. I thought everyone dreamed the same way.

Generally dreaming is considered a function of the subconscious, out of your control.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interesting topic. Chronic nightmare sufferer here. I stumbled on some info about lucid dreaming by accident and read that you can take some control over the dream outcome. So I kinda tucked that info into my internal "to do" list.

I've had a couple of lucid dreams since then. The first lucid dream… I was still frozen in sleep paralysis. Just couldn't break thru. But the next one I was able to interact in… just a little. It was scary… but I haven't had a nightmare since then. Weird.

That was only a couple of months ago. And while I'm not looking forward to "facing my fears"… I know now that I can. And am prepared to do so.

I think it'd be really cool to be able to have lucid dreams at will… but the good kind like you've talked about. One question I have about lucid dreaming is this…. If you're semi-concious during a lucid dream… is your body getting the right kind of restful sleep? Do you wake up tired or energized?

I had the same lucid dream once, where i was frozen in sleep paralysis but my eyes were open. that one was particularly frightening because i kept losing my grip on reality and i would start believing that i was paralyzed for the rest of my life haha...

there are a few different techniques that will help induce lucid dreaming, but it sounds like you naturally have a hold on the art. your so lucky! i have 4 alarms set every night so i can wake up right after a REM cycle and remember the dream i was just in.

the curious thing about dreams is how unknown and unstudied they are. scientists arent even sure what their function is. however, from my experience, when i achieve lucidity within a dream i wake up invigorated. the thought of me wandering around my own mental construct results in a sort of mash of realities, where one is just as real as the other.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Almost all of my dreams are lucid dreams. :/ I think it can sometimes take the fun out of it, because when awesome things happen I always know I'm just dreaming it. However, it also means I get to do wonderful things in my dreams, such as explore old abandoned cities and pick my way through enchanted mazes and that kind of stuff.

... If I'm even getting the definition right. Is lucid dreaming when you know you're dreaming and can control your actions? My dreams have always been like this. Now that you mention it, it is kind of cool. I thought everyone dreamed the same way.

thats so awesome. i have to work my ass of to have and remember my lucid dreams. your definition of lucid dreaming is correct, but not entirely. there are types of lucid dreams you can have while not knowing you are dreaming, such as after being sleep deprived for some time. how much control do you have in your dreams? how many do u remember a night, on average? how vivid are they?

if ya dont mind me askin :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thats so awesome. i have to work my ass of to have and remember my lucid dreams. your definition of lucid dreaming is correct, but not entirely. there are types of lucid dreams you can have while not knowing you are dreaming, such as after being sleep deprived for some time. how much control do you have in your dreams? how many do u remember a night, on average? how vivid are they?

if ya dont mind me askin :)

My amount of control varies. Most of the time, I can only control myself, not outward events (ie: I will decide to go into a room, or explore something, or speak to someone.) Other times, I can make things happen -- and these are the BEST dreams. If I want to fly, I will grow wings. If I want to have a sexual experience with someone in my dream ( ^_^ ) they will be there. If I want to go on a magical journey, I can decide what the background will be like and what kind of people I will meet. The dreams where I can control things other than myself are amazing, blissful. Pure joy that I can't touch while awake.

I haven't had as many since my sleeping has become disrupted lately. I used to have them about 4 times a week and now it's less. They are almost always still lucid (where I know that I'm dreaming) but I have less control. It's annoying. I miss being able to make decisions and go on adventures.

My lucid dreams are always extremely vivid. I wake up swamped in bliss, mostly. They recur a lot. I still have a recurring dream where I explore an abandoned city underneath a museum that has been going on since I was 9 or 10, it comes back every few years.

My non-lucid dreams are not as vivid :( And they're nowhere near as euphoric. Since my sleep is all screwed up, I've been having more of these lately. It sucks. Or I just don't remember my dreams at all.

Bah, I wrote a novel. Anyway, thank you for this thread. It's very interesting. I've never thought about my dreams so much.

Edited by saoirse

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am a lucid dreamer, and have a couple of lucid dreams a week. I can control what I do, but when I am having a nightmare, all I want to do is end the nightmare. Not so easy. I have tried prying my eyes open (at least in my dream), jumping off of cliffs or high buildings hoping that by killing myself, I will wake up (doesn't work, by the way). I can't trick myself awake.

Sometimes I walk into the living room looking for my husband to wake me up, and usually he has turned into something bizarre, like a man with a dog's head.

I also have confronted aliens (even remembering that dream makes me really uncomfortable), and found a place to hide, because I knew the building I was in (my college dorm), and it was a hiding place we used in college.

Most of them are nightmares, as you can kind of guess. But even though I can direct action, I can't wake myself up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am a lucid dreamer, and have a couple of lucid dreams a week. I can control what I do, but when I am having a nightmare, all I want to do is end the nightmare. Not so easy. I have tried prying my eyes open (at least in my dream), jumping off of cliffs or high buildings hoping that by killing myself, I will wake up (doesn't work, by the way). I can't trick myself awake.

Sometimes I walk into the living room looking for my husband to wake me up, and usually he has turned into something bizarre, like a man with a dog's head.

I also have confronted aliens (even remembering that dream makes me really uncomfortable), and found a place to hide, because I knew the building I was in (my college dorm), and it was a hiding place we used in college.

Most of them are nightmares, as you can kind of guess. But even though I can direct action, I can't wake myself up.

dreams are a trip. part of the reason you cant wake yourself up is because in the back of your head, you believe you won't be able to.

heres some advice for you:

once I realize Im in a dream, I do what I can to make sure I don't wake up out of it. To do this, I move around in my dream. I create the sensation of movement so that my body doesn;t realize it's actually just laying in bed.

so for someone (like you) trying to wake up, stand in one spot and completely stop all movement within your dream. realize that your actual body is in sleep paralysis laying on your bed. this should wake you up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What? That makes absolutely zero sense. You yourself say you haven't ever wanted a lucid dream to end, so how do you know what will work to end them?

You say your ability to dream lucidly is a recent development. I have been having lucid dreams since I was a teenager (i.e., 30 years ago). But thanks for the tips.

I don't know where you got the "sleep paralysis theory" from.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

cool topic. I've had quite a few lucid dreams in my time. When I was younger I had some where I could jump so high that I was practically flying and could change the direction I bounced in to go to different places.

I've also had a few unpleasant ones where I knew I was dreaming and I was desperately trying to wake up but couldn't. Those ones I don't like at all, but they are not frequent. Next time I have one I will try to remember your theory about 'standing still' to see if that helps!

I don't think this is lucid dreaming as such, but I sometimes wake up from a weird dream, then fall asleep again and have a dream where I'm telling someone about my first dream, then I wake up and think "that's weird!" and I fall asleep again and have a dream where I'm telling someone about having a dream that I was telling someone about a dream etc...etc...I also have very vivid yet kinda boring dreams where I'm just doing regular stuff and when I wake up, it's sometimes hard to tell if I actually did the things I dreamed in real life or not (like I'll ask someone a question in my dream, then in real life I can't tell if I actually asked them or not)

Dreams are pretty fascinating stuff :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What? That makes absolutely zero sense. You yourself say you haven't ever wanted a lucid dream to end, so how do you know what will work to end them?

You say your ability to dream lucidly is a recent development. I have been having lucid dreams since I was a teenager (i.e., 30 years ago). But thanks for the tips.

I don't know where you got the "sleep paralysis theory" from.

haha well i can definitely let you know where i got it from :)

the website is http://www.dreamviews.org/content/staying-lucid-26/

its pretty much a forum specialized in lucid dreaming. the content on it is read and used by at least thousands of lucid dreaming enthusiasts.

its no problem if you find that to be an unreliable source.. i found the tips really helpful in my experience however.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

cool topic. I've had quite a few lucid dreams in my time. When I was younger I had some where I could jump so high that I was practically flying and could change the direction I bounced in to go to different places.

I've also had a few unpleasant ones where I knew I was dreaming and I was desperately trying to wake up but couldn't. Those ones I don't like at all, but they are not frequent. Next time I have one I will try to remember your theory about 'standing still' to see if that helps!

I don't think this is lucid dreaming as such, but I sometimes wake up from a weird dream, then fall asleep again and have a dream where I'm telling someone about my first dream, then I wake up and think "that's weird!" and I fall asleep again and have a dream where I'm telling someone about having a dream that I was telling someone about a dream etc...etc...I also have very vivid yet kinda boring dreams where I'm just doing regular stuff and when I wake up, it's sometimes hard to tell if I actually did the things I dreamed in real life or not (like I'll ask someone a question in my dream, then in real life I can't tell if I actually asked them or not)

Dreams are pretty fascinating stuff :)

hahahaha yeah ive had similar experiences.

your dream where you keep telling the story of your past dreams sounds crazy!! haha reminds me of an Escher work for some reason..

my dream themes tend to change cyclically, from vivid exciting adventures to vivd extensions of my daily life which I would often times confuse with my reality and then to abstract half-lived dreams where the setting is always dark and dreary and faded..

i agree, dreams are very fascinating!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh god, where do i begin? I've had lucid dreams since my BP II kicked in (i was wrongly diagnosed with depression and only started the right treatment a couple of weeks ago) which is THREE YEARS ago and i hate them. I think i hate the good ones even more than the anxious bad ones. I've never had insomnia, my illness makes me sleep for ridiculous amounts of time, today, for example, i slept for 19 hours. Usually it ranges from 12-19 hrs and you know what? HAVING GREAT ADVENTURES IN YOUR SLEEP FUCKING SUCKS. I hate that i have a great intresting eventful lovely time when i sleep and then wake up to a bleak life with rarely a reason to get out of bed, which, most of the time, i dont. I hate missing people i havent seen in months because i just saw them in my dreams. And yes, i hate controlling my dreamworld, because of the contrast it has with my real life. I loved the times when i wasn't depressed and didn't dream at night. I miss it. Today i had a great time, people cared about me in my dreams and it's just plain painful to be awake with none of that love. It's emotionally exhausting. So, any tips for getting rid of them?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Talk to a therapist? How does one stop dreaming? It isn't even healthy to do so.

It sounds like your depression is a more of a pressing issue than lucid dreaming, frankly. Once you have that under control, the lucid dreaming may resolve itself. And if it doesn't, you will be in much better shape to address it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh god, where do i begin? I've had lucid dreams since my BP II kicked in (i was wrongly diagnosed with depression and only started the right treatment a couple of weeks ago) which is THREE YEARS ago and i hate them. I think i hate the good ones even more than the anxious bad ones. I've never had insomnia, my illness makes me sleep for ridiculous amounts of time, today, for example, i slept for 19 hours. Usually it ranges from 12-19 hrs and you know what? HAVING GREAT ADVENTURES IN YOUR SLEEP FUCKING SUCKS. I hate that i have a great intresting eventful lovely time when i sleep and then wake up to a bleak life with rarely a reason to get out of bed, which, most of the time, i dont. I hate missing people i havent seen in months because i just saw them in my dreams. And yes, i hate controlling my dreamworld, because of the contrast it has with my real life. I loved the times when i wasn't depressed and didn't dream at night. I miss it. Today i had a great time, people cared about me in my dreams and it's just plain painful to be awake with none of that love. It's emotionally exhausting. So, any tips for getting rid of them?

I agree with crtclms. lucid dreaming is what you make of it, literally, and if you are depressed about your daily life, then you will be depressed about your life in dreams.

the way i see it, everyone dreams. you can either make the most of this other realm of reality and love everything about it, including the fact that its NOT your waking world, OR you can ignore it and pay no attention to this time in your life.

recent dream research is showing that not only do you dream in REM but also in deep sleep. so basically, you are spending a hugely significant portion of your life in this state.

To me, im ecstatic that i even get to experience the bizzare world of dreams and play inside it. it doesn't need to be compared to daily life nor does it need to be associated with it. what i mean by this is that if you say you can control your dreams, then why make it so you see people from your waking life at all? why not just experience the unimaginable, or whatever it is you want.

they are two separate entities. find what you enjoy in both of them and leave it at that. its a whole lot more simple and beautiful than many may realize..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I lucid dream at least once a week. I have gotten quite good at it. I love it!! I wish I could sleep all the time and just live in my dreams.

I always make myself fly in my dreams, or have super cool powers. It's so fun. I will just dream that I am flying around my town all freaking night and it feels so real!!

Lucid dreaming is great but it also leaves me feeling exhausted in the morning, like I was literally out all night.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

  • Similar Content

    • By voic.of.illogic
      Hi,
      I have what I like to consider pretty bad GAD and it is most prevalent when I am faced with time pressure and especially with assignments at school.
      I always start telling myself "I can't do it" and all i want to do is run away and avoid the stress and do anything to avoid having to deal with it.
      this usually takes the form of extensions and excuses and skipping classes and emailing profs, etc.
      I've been doing really well this week but for some reason I can't let myself feel that or think to myself that maybe I can do it, because I keep saying to myself, just because I succeeded in the past how do I know I will this time.  I've also failed a lot in the past, so that could happen too.  
      I even feel like writing this post is avoidance even though its really just me reaching out, but I feel pathetic that I can't just deal with my shit on my own.  
      Right now I have a 1000 word paper due in 3 hours and I tried reading the articles that I need to read but I just got overwhelmed and started writing down all the thoughts that were going through my head. That helped a little because I got the thoughts out, and I guess that's what this is doing too.
      I still am majorly fighting the urge to email my prof for an extension, which I prob will be able to get, and get on a bus to go home and hide in bed for as long as possible.  I just don't want to face this fear.  I freeze up any time I say to myself that I can't do it, and I will do anything to run away.
       
      I guess what I want to know is does anyone else feel this, and if so, how do you cope without running and hiding.
       
      Thanks
    • By Poem
      Hi all,
      So I just got put on Lunesta the other day and took it for sleep that night. I managed to sleep with only waking up once. Yay. But it tasted horrible. I thought Lithium was bad, but this stuff stuck in my mouth all night long and I only was able to quell it a bit with some tea in the morning.
      Has anyone experienced this with this particular sleep aid? I am really hoping this will work out for my because my Pdoc said I have tried everything else. And I believe them.
      I should also note that I am on a generic, if that makes a difference.
      Thanks,
      Poem
    • By Deborahf
      My 25 year old son, diagnosed with autism, severe anxiety, intellectual/developmental disability, has had a severe sleep disorder his entire life.
      He averages about 3.5 hours of sleep per night. Often, that's not all at the same time but aggregate between 10pm - 6am.
      Over the years, we've tried dozens (and dozens...) of both alternative and conventional treatments.
      Specific to prescription medications to help induce sleep, we've tried over 15. Almost all medications have had a paradoxical effect on him (activating vs. sedating). None have helped with sleep. 
      He's been on risperidone for about 3 years. No other meds.
      We have not tried Trazadone (and probably many others).
      ANY ideas are welcome!
       
       
       
    • By AdamC
      All of this has been going on for almost 2 years:
      Symptoms:
      Severe Generalized / Social Anxiety Disorder
      Major Depressive Disorder
      OCD – Usually Appears in “Health Worries”
      Sleep Apnea, verified by at home test and hospital c-pap study.  A lot of Hypopneas and some Central Apneas, O2 Sat. drops in 80% level without c-pap.  I have been using a C-Pap machine for over 150 days, 100% compliance.
      Sleep Phase Disorder – 4.5 hours of sleep at night, HAVE to nap during day, everyday for approx.. 3-4 hours
      Excessive Daytime Sleepiness
      General Fatigue
      Apathy
      Calcification on Left Distal Achilles Tendon (Going to PT for this)
      Right Achilles is painful also
      Knee Pain, difficult upon standing
      Back Pain, lower back, burning pain when standing too long
      Right Hip Pain, notice upon standing
      Severe TMJ (on going for many years)
      Joint Pain is worse in morning and after getting out of recliner
      Stiffness is severe, difficulty getting socks and underwear on
      50lb weight gain over the past 1-1/2 year
      Increased Appetite, can eat all the time
      Increased Thirstiness
      Stomach feels like I’m hungry all the time
      Tongue Lesions (burning) and Geographic Tongue on a regular basis
      Blurry Vision at times, caused by Dry Eyes
      Thick abnormal Toe Nails
      Thumb Nails have dip in them
      Dry Skin on Knees and Scalp (always digging skin away near ears)
      Memory Issues, both short and long term
      Brain Fog
      Shakiness in hands
      Shortness of Breath
      High blood pressure and headache upon waking – 138/100
       
      Facts:
      Diagnosed with General and Social Anxiety Disorder, OCD, and Major Depressive Disorder approx. 16 years ago.
      Have been on many different Antidepressants, Benzos, etc. for approx. 16 years
      Have been on Klonopin for 10 years straight.
      Current cocktail: 6-8mg of Klonopin per day, 200mg Luvox, 1200mg Trileptal, Vitamin D-5000.  Cocktail has been a life saver for my mental illness.  See a Therapist Weekly, P-Doc Monthly, Primary every 2-3 months.  Have tried most newer SSRI’s and Benzo’s in the past.  Either not effective or side effects too severe.
      In 2012 went through 6 weeks of transcranial magnetic stimulation treatment (not effective for me)
      Tested positive for Epstein-Barr virus approx. 1-1/2 year ago (showed a past infection)
      Confirmed “tongue issues,” by ENT Doctor
      Confirmed “sleep disorders” by Sleep Doctor … He is not a Neurologist, but rather works in General Medicine, and in the Sleep Lab.
      Confirmed “achilles” problem by X-ray and Orthopedic Doctor
      Tested Negative for ANA test (specifically looking at systematic lupus)
      Tested Negative for Thyroid Conditions, tested 1-1/1 year ago
      Adrenal Function normal, tested 2 years ago
      Liver, Kidney, EKG, Heart Ultrasound, Blood Sodium, and all other tests normal, except Vitamin D level very low.  I now take Vitamin D-5000 everyday (been over a year).
      Visit with Rheumatologist indicated that likelihood of Fibromyalgia is low.
      C-pap therapy has not helped.
       
      Concerns:
      No doctor has yet to determine why I am so tired (daytime sleepiness), Fatigued all the time.  Current sleep doctor wanted to prescribe Provigil, but now wants me to use light therapy for phase disorder and then use c-pap when I nap.
      Have no idea why I have such severe joint pain/aches in ankles, knees, hip and back.
      I THINK that there is an underlying cause to some of these issues, but do not know what.
      I do know that I have mental illness, and setting that aside for the moment, current treatment is going well.
      Is there anyone else like this out there??  I have hit that point in my life that I honestly don’t know what to do next.  My quality of life is severely affecting my marriage and family relationships.  There are days that I do not want to get out of bed, wishing this was a bad dream.
      Any thoughts?
    • By march
      I'm experiencing what I think is a "nervous breakdown" of sorts. An extreme stress response my body can't get out of. My worst symptoms are caused by sleeping and/or only at night, early morning. I'm low on quality sleep because of this. 
       
      I can feel myself holding my breath as I'm sleeping. Usually around 2am. I'll sleep through it but can feel myself doing it. I'll awake with start sometimes holding my breath still or gasping for air around 4am (when the insane adrenaline type surges start). I also have episodes of Catathrenia but this seems different (no sounds come from the exhale). I'm med free, btw.
       
      Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thank you!