I need to talk about something, and you may not like it

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I'm so fucking tired of this damn war on drugs. The persecution of doctors and even pharmacists (YES - PHARMACISTS are losing their licences in FL for filling "too many" 100% legit scripts - not forgeries, but by doctors with active DEA credentials appropriately medicating -- not some crazy ass amount of oxycodone or worse).  It leaves people like me, in chronic hard-core pain (that's only gotten worse) crying in bed from the pain.  Doctors are too afraid to treat their patients.

Meanwhile.. it's all about the poor, innocent, helpless victims of a world where pain meds exist and they've gone out of their way to get shit illegally - over -and over - and over again in order to feed a habit rather than face up to their internal demons. And it's a DISEASE.  REALLY? REALLY? FUCK THAT SHIT! It's a CHOICE. Mental issues and a physical predisposition exists, but taking one damn 5mg hydrocodone does not make someone an addict for life and take free will out of one's control.

People are dying from Fentanyl made to look like other shit.  Well, it is an illegal drug market about money and regular deaths when dealers get pissed off.  What the hell do you really expect.  Yet they're the "Victims".  No.  Victims don't make consistent choices over the course of months or even years to do something they're fully aware of the consequences of and decide they don't care and would rather be high and risk it.  And still continue to risk it, knowing it's on the market.  What do they do - buy test strips.  It's like personal responsibility no longer exists.  Probably because politicians sons and daughters are getting addicted.  It couldn't possibly be the environment they were raised in, or that they have personal issues -- nope, it's gotta be caused by some evil in the shadows that came after their poor, innocent children and hurt them.

You don't become an addict overnight and you don't get over it overnight. It's a long slow process made up of many choices.  People aren't so idiotic that they don't know what that choice they're making is.  Noo.. addiction is all about the drugs being there; whereas, mental illness is a conscious personal failing you should just be able to magically get over & not doing so is a choice.

I just saw a neurologist.  He said I'd just have to live with the pain cause I've been on all the psych meds.. and throwing opiates at it isn't a reasonable thing.  ......  Yet, after all the psych meds that were never developed to handle fibromyalgia.. the OFFICIAL medication treatment guideline says : OPIATES.  And the really sad thing is - it works for mine.

Honestly, .. I've thought about going and buying the fake shit that's actually fentanyl, dissolving it in two quarts (or even gallons) of liquid, and dosing it in tsp.  Actually seems pretty damn cost effective considering the price of medications.  I'm not going to do it.  There's probably other shit in there that'll mess with my MI chemistry/meds too.  But I considered it.

This system is fucked.

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I agree. Our system is narfed. :( I'm sorry you're in such pain cetkat. I understand how draining it is living with pain day to day. :(

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I recommend kratom.  It narrowly missed being outlawed by the DEA last fall, but... It acts like a (relatively mild) opiate. It can not be injected or snorted or smoked (actually it can physically be smoked, it's just not going to have an psychoactive effect).  It's sold as an herbal product, still legal (although you're bound to get ripped off in stores, try buying on the internet).  If one takes too much, it was make one nauseous, so overdosing is basically impossible.  And it's a whole lot easier to get for withdrawing opiate addicts than bupe.  Doctors get a hard time from medical boards and the DEA for prescribing a medication that helps addicts stay clean.  Buprenorphine is also a medication for pain control. You might want to get a new pshrink and ask for bupe or even methadone.  

Your "choice" idea is really poor, though. You're bitter, it's understandable, but a lot of people have been hooked on oxycodone BY THEIR PHYSICIANS.  You should blame irresponsible doctors, and irresponsible pharmaceutical companies, not the victims. The fact that addiction is amenable to medical treatment. "Choices" don't get better from medical treatment. Addiction does. You're just another person blaming victims for their problems- as are many of the anti-drug crusaders who are keeping the meds from you. You're kinda buying into exactly the philosophy which keeps you from getting medication in the first place. People also suffer from being overweight, and this is presented as a choice, when genetics and hormones have a it more to do with it than "willpower".

I don't really understand why you're weaving this fantasy of fentanyl into your personal suffering. Why do you entertain this fantasy of scoring "fake" fentanyl-laced heroin? Perhaps you have some idea that scoring opiates like oxycodone isn't actually that hard, while your complicated fantasy about fentanyl is. Keep meeting fellow patients in hospitals and doctor offices, tell them your story. I've heard street price of Oxys, there are a lot of little dirt poor old ladies on Medicare who are getting bottles of 30 for $8, and it's too tempting for them not to sell at least some of them. Really, it's your choice not to go the illegal route-  you complain about "addiction" not being real; well how "real" is your complaint they're not available to you?  Are you afraid of finding out you're wrong about addiction and "personal choice?"  I think you are and are right to be afraid. Note I'm not really advocating really scoring opiates, I just think you're ideas about addicts getting what they deserve is pretty cold-hearted, and a bit hypocritical on your part.

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