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NEVER mix Klonopin with heroin

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Just in case you're on Klonopin and were even *considering* using heroin, this is a very bad idea and could result in your immediate death. I mean, heroin always stands that risk, but doing it while on Klonopin makes things a hundred times worse. If you don't die there is a nearly an 100% chance that you will OD.

Just a very serious warning.

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Just in case you're on Klonopin and were even *considering* using heroin, this is a very bad idea and could result in your immediate death. I mean, heroin always stands that risk, but doing it while on Klonopin makes things a hundred times worse. If you don't die there is a nearly an 100% chance that you will OD.

Just a very serious warning.

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Just in case you're on Klonopin and were even *considering* using heroin, this is a very bad idea and could result in your immediate death. I mean, heroin always stands that risk, but doing it while on Klonopin makes things a hundred times worse. If you don't die there is a nearly an 100% chance that you will OD.

Just a very serious warning.

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I've actually had this combination once. NOT GOOD! OMG I woke up in different places for like 12 hours straight. Once woke up naked standing in the middle of my living room. While everyone else was sleeping. Dunno how or what had happened. My GF at the time fell out on the toliet. I agree with this warning. NOT A GOOD MIX!

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Does the same apply to any other benzodiazepines?

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Klonopin is not the danger. It's the dope. I've done lot's of klonnies with dope and had it under control. The only time I od'ed was misjudging the strength of some tar....the klonopin just made it seem like it would not do anything. That is the danger. Dope kills, klonnies fuck up your judgment but the interaction chemically won't kill you. My question is: why do klonnies if you have good dope? That's like drinking a 1/5th of whiskey and than saying that it was that one sip of beer that made everything the best. Don't make any sense. The best advice: Don't do the dope 'cause it's stronger than you ever could be.

Be careful: remember, it's not the interaction of Klonnies and dope that will kill you. It's the fact that doing klonnies will take away your "anxiety" of doing dope so you end up pushing an entire syringe of some new stuff that you don't know how powerful it is and BAM it's your lucky day. That dope was reallly high quality....oh yeah, and your dead.

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Perhaps it's just accumulated CNS depression that kills you?

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several attempts at suiced from iv smack in south east asia have failed as ya hit the floor with the works still in the mainline. a bicycle pump might do it. never want to go there again. it's part of the reason i moved way out in the sticks.

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Yes very dangerous stuff, I am on methadone have been 8yrs..I am fighting a recent benzo habbit with it...i feel shite im hanging in there ;)

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Of course you shouldnt combine heroin with klonopin, but mostly you shouldnt be doing heroin in the first place. I know you know that, and I was an heroin addict for a long time, and I have been sober about 3 1/2 years now. Klonopin is what they said it would do affects your anxiety so pretty much as someone else mentions it lowers your inhibitations and alllows you to not really think about how much heroin you do. and not to mention klonopin works with the chemicals in your brain so it cant be healthy along with heroin bc heroin pretty much kills brain cells. You are messing with too much junk. I hope you are doing better though. and trust Me I have been there done that.

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Just in case you're on Klonopin and were even *considering* using heroin, this is a very bad idea and could result in your immediate death. I mean, heroin always stands that risk, but doing it while on Klonopin makes things a hundred times worse. If you don't die there is a nearly an 100% chance that you will OD.

Just a very serious warning.

Yes, this is true. It just happened a few days ago to my son, who was on presciption Klonopin.

He hadn't done any drugs in 3 years, but was feeling really well and took heroin and died immediately.

Now he is gone and we all loved him very much.

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I've been on klonopin for a while now, and shooting dope too, it makes no difference if anything the klono makes the heroin high less, high.

I see no problem with it I feel fine. Then again I'm tolerant to klonis so my inhibitions are hardly touched.

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The thing is that

1) there's actually a reasonable body of work on the problems of combining benzodiazepines and opioids

and

2) I have to say that your general critical thinking skills are maybe a bit questionable here. What with the shooting 'dope' and all.

and

3) you do realize that when you say "less high," you are in fact describing some sensory impairment secondary to the clonazepam, right? Thus actually validating what other posters have said about the risks?

No, I'd imagine you don't. You just think you're less high. Is the response to then shoot more, perchance? ;)

Best of luck to you out there, guest. Try to maintain a patent airway, OK?

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there's a whole documentary about this very topic. called methadonia. it's on netflix "watch instantly". it mainly covers methadone and benzos but the same applies to heroin, except of course it's worse (or better) when heroin is involved.

any opiate and benzo, actually. the combination is especially difficult to kick.

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any opiate and benzo, actually. the combination is especially difficult to kick.
I don't think our guest is "down" with kicking, man.

So for innocents reading his stupid reply to this thread, please ignore his stupid reply.

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Just watched Methadonia. Thanks for the recommendation, RM.

Very intense documentary.

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Just watched Methadonia. Thanks for the recommendation, RM.

Very intense documentary.

I watched it too. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think Methadone could be safely tapered also. When I am actively using, I don't want any part of any kind of recovery--12 step or otherwise. Every time I've relapsed it's been a decision. A choice. I think even the most hard boiled heroin addicts can get off heroin with or without Methadone. I know myself and if I was using Methadone to get off heroin then the rest of my recovery would be compromised because decisions are still made under the influence--whether one *feels* high or not.

People with decades long addiction(s) like me can testify there is no getting high anymore. There is life and there is death, so why one would chose to stay on methadone, beyond a safe detox from heroin and a safe taper, escapes me. I think maybe suboxone might work better? I don't know, having never done either.

Benzos were harder to stop than opiates. And opitates are HARD to stop.

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Just watched Methadonia. Thanks for the recommendation, RM.

Very intense documentary.

I watched it too. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think Methadone could be safely tapered also. When I am actively using, I don't want any part of any kind of recovery--12 step or otherwise. Every time I've relapsed it's been a decision. A choice. I think even the most hard boiled heroin addicts can get off heroin with or without Methadone. I know myself and if I was using Methadone to get off heroin then the rest of my recovery would be compromised because decisions are still made under the influence--whether one *feels* high or not.

People with decades long addiction(s) like me can testify there is no getting high anymore. There is life and there is death, so why one would chose to stay on methadone, beyond a safe detox from heroin and a safe taper, escapes me. I think maybe suboxone might work better? I don't know, having never done either.

Benzos were harder to stop than opiates. And opitates are HARD to stop.

Here's a good description of the differences between seboxone and methadone.

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THat is scaring me then.... I am on 2 mg of Klonopin, coming down from a few hits of moly, and smokin H. Is this bad?

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I was discharged from the pulomonary dept. of the hospital today. I took 1 1/2 mg of klonopin and shot a bag of some very potent "china" white heron. I've been doing heroin for 3 years and yes have never had this reaction. I have no recollection other than waking up in the ER with a doctor asking me "what drugs did you do?!"apparently my sister(10 years old) found me gasping for air with my hands in my shorts with a smirk on my face. It's only fun when you're inches from hell's entrance. Please don't ever mix the dope with any benzo, for your health's sake. The mix caused me to have aspiration pneumonia or something. From one person in love with the opiated lifestyle to all the others who share the same love, don't try let curiosity kill your cat! My soul is forever stained for letting the curiosity of my habit consume my conciousness and forever losing trust by my loved ones. Everyone knows it's an undercover habit, and once your cover's blown, you might as well start guzzling the nitro!!!

one love

-constricted pplz

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The only OD I ever had was when I had the brilliant idea of having one Rivotril and a really dark shot.

I dont really recommend it. By the way.....there's no tunnel and no light!...

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...there's no tunnel and no light!...

No, there's not.

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Most of opiate-related deaths occur by mixing CNS depressants....... to die from an opiate overdose takes a looooooooooong time, and if it happens it prolly has to do with negligence (if you're with somebody)...... cns depressants can really lower the death threshold..... i guess it has something to do with low-quality gear/brown.. so people have to mix to potentiate..... never had that problem.

I'm a cookie addict.... cookie......cookie.......i told my mom today that i'd steal money for cookies......well....that's improving.....hahaha.

i know u dont care but....who cares anyway anything anytime anywhere?

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Not sure exactly how you are measuring how "looooong" a given death takes. Or how you assign the 'negligence' of one's companions. Last I checked, everyone was responsible for his or her own choice to use.

If you decide to poke yourself in the eye with a fork, that's on you, and saying, "Oh, wow, my friend was totally going to tell me when I was close to my eye, that's so harsh," is just kinda goofy.

Or, for that matter, what "lowering the death threshold" means. Um. What?

There's a reason the staff at the methadone clinic gets sharp-tongued about BZD with methadone (and why my favorite local pharmacist won't fill clonazepam / diazepam / temazepam with methadone and will call the prescriber), and it's not because they're a bunch of big meanies.

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Most of opiate-related deaths occur by mixing CNS depressants....... to die from an opiate overdose takes a looooooooooong time, and if it happens it prolly has to do with negligence (if you're with somebody)...... cns depressants can really lower the death threshold..... i guess it has something to do with low-quality gear/brown.. so people have to mix to potentiate..... never had that problem.

I'm a cookie addict.... cookie......cookie.......i told my mom today that i'd steal money for cookies......well....that's improving.....hahaha.

i know u dont care but....who cares anyway anything anytime anywhere?

sorry but this post makes absolutely no sense.

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