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username
I've never had any sexual problems with other anti-depressants (apart from delayed orgasm), but Prozac seriously interferes with my libido.

It is however one of the most successful anti-depressants that I have been on, so I thought I'd make a compromise.

In order to counteract the loss of libido and occassional erectile dysfunction, I started Wellbutrin.

Since I have started it, I have been unable to achieve an erection at all.

Please note that I find this deeply disturbing and distressing!

My first instinct was to stop the Prozac, as this side effect was unnacceptable.

But, after a bit of research, I discovered that whilst unlikely, Wellbutrin can indeed cause impotence.

I have only been on Wellbutrin for 5 days, and don't want to stop it, but I feel that I have to find out what the problem is. My sex drive has always been extremely high, and I am a young man.

It would be more logical to stop the Wellbutrin, since it will only take a few days to clear from my system.

Trouble is, my psych, doesn't want me to stop either. Hell, I don't really want to stop either, but I feel backed into a corner.

What the hell do I do?

PS: can benzos cause sexual dysfunction? I have been on very high doses (as prescribed).
Sensation
I guess viagra and cialis
Her Tommy
viagra and cialis may help with the erections, but are not helpful with the anorgasmia which is so common with ssri's. Wellbutrin usually helps with sexual function.

Tommy

(speaking as a layperson who is mostly guessing)
Ella
That is just unacceptable. A good orgasm is better than a cupboard full of benzos! I would check into the possibility of benzos causing impotence; it seems likely.

Prozac was the only SSRI to cause anorgasmia in my experience. Fortunately I had to go off of it because of other, nastier, side-effects. Though it seems like everyone turns to Wellbutrin for help, surely there is something besides that that kick-starts the libido. Or maybe you could try an AD from a different class, or a combo of other ADs. Have you run the gamut already?
agentelle
i took WB for a little over a year and for the first month i was dead tired. i mean lay-my-head-down-on-my-desk-and-take-a-nap-tired! then magically after about 4 weeks (give or take), that s/e went away (and so did the nausea). also about 5 months into treatment, i started breaking out on my back- certainly not a purported s/e. but i somehow knew it must be the WB, despite zero proof. after a month, that too went away.

NEway, what i'm trying to say is that you need to give your med more than 5 days of treatment to truly eval. what it's doing for you. unless the s/e is totally unbearable. but if you can hack it, i'd say give it some more time, especially w/i the first month, as your body adjusts. but i'm no doctor, just an educated civilian.
~agentelle
Velvet Elvis
5 days in is too early to tell.

I always try to give a new med at least a week trial if I can possibly stand it.

With most meds the side effects get better in time.

Which wellbutrin formulation are you on btw, SR, XL or regular?

There is a big difference in regard to this effect. Yes, benzos can cause ED, particularly in higher doses.
username
Wathched some porn today and got a slight hard one after a while. Things are improving.

QUOTE (Velvet Elvis @ Jun 15 2006, 04:08 AM) *
5 days in is too early to tell.

I always try to give a new med at least a week trial if I can possibly stand it.

With most meds the side effects get better in time.

Which wellbutrin formulation are you on btw, SR, XL or regular?

There is a big difference in regard to this effect. Yes, benzos can cause ED, particularly in higher doses.



I don't know. It just says Zyban prolonged realease film coated tablets.
Velvet Elvis
That's the same as the SR.

Maybe you just need to branch out into geriatric midget pr0n or somthing?
username
QUOTE (Velvet Elvis @ Jun 15 2006, 07:51 PM) *
That's the same as the SR.

Maybe you just need to branch out into geriatric midget pr0n or somthing?



What are the implications of this SR formula?
Velvet Elvis
It's in the middle of the two, so probably nothing. The Instant release is the most likely to have the aprodesic effect.

I think you should try midgets
username
Watched more porn (foot fetish stuff - "shoeplay") and had an orgasm! Yipeee!

I wasn't quite as hard as I could have been, but pretty good for only two days off the drug!
Ella
QUOTE
Watched more porn (foot fetish stuff - "shoeplay") and had an orgasm! Yipeee!


Yay! Progress! biggrin.gif Congratulations on your orgasm.

ETA: Pardon my ADD. You went off the drug?? I hope you're planning to consult your pdoc soon. *shakes finger* I imagine you'll need a replacement.
username
QUOTE (Ella @ Jun 15 2006, 10:00 PM) *
QUOTE
Watched more porn (foot fetish stuff - "shoeplay") and had an orgasm! Yipeee!


Yay! Progress! biggrin.gif Congratulations on your orgasm.

ETA: Pardon my ADD. You went off the drug?? I hope you're planning to consult your pdoc soon. *shakes finger* I imagine you'll need a replacement.



I want Prozac out out my system as well. I am sick of sexual side effects, even if it is just delayed orgasm.

I just tell my pdoc what to do anyway (He has only ever made one suggestion of his own), so its not like he has to know immediately. I will let him know in good time, once the Wellbutrin has completely washed out. Shouldn't be long.
Velvet Elvis
Honestly, I think your priorities are kinda fucked up there.
Latin Girl
QUOTE (username @ Jun 16 2006, 04:38 AM) *
QUOTE (Ella @ Jun 15 2006, 10:00 PM) *

QUOTE
Watched more porn (foot fetish stuff - "shoeplay") and had an orgasm! Yipeee!


Yay! Progress! biggrin.gif Congratulations on your orgasm.

ETA: Pardon my ADD. You went off the drug?? I hope you're planning to consult your pdoc soon. *shakes finger* I imagine you'll need a replacement.



I want Prozac out out my system as well. I am sick of sexual side effects, even if it is just delayed orgasm.

I just tell my pdoc what to do anyway (He has only ever made one suggestion of his own), so its not like he has to know immediately. I will let him know in good time, once the Wellbutrin has completely washed out. Shouldn't be long.



I am not sure I understand. You will be on "NO" medicine at all?


I am on 20mg of Lexapro which has taken a huge chunk of my sex drive away. I do miss it

But.........I would never, ever, ever trade that for my sanity

Edit: I had a boyfriend with a foot fetish. He just loved my feet. First guy I knew who paid more attention to my feet than my Breasts or legs.
blackbird
Its a trade off for me - insanity and no sexual side effects/sanity and sex drive in the dumps.

After I quit Prozac earlier this year I had a terrible bout of erotomania which I believe was triggered by quitting prozac, yes I could achieve orgasm but in retrospect sanity is a lot better. I guess you just have to figure out which trade off you prefer...
herrfous
This is just IMHO, but I'm echoing "better sanity than orgasm".

It helps that I'm Aspie, stressed out (at the moment), and a bit slow to warm up, and that I live in a small city where most my age are married straight out of high school. Nonetheless, my left ar... err, I've learned to live with the problems.

That said, you know, providing impotence is not an issue, lagtime to achieving orgasm might be considered a good thing in us guys, but I suppose at some time you might tire her out. devlish.gif

Oh yeah, have you considered a low dose of trazodone for the impotence? It's known to make things a little harder for us guys, if you get my drift.
username
QUOTE (Velvet Elvis @ Jun 16 2006, 10:19 AM) *
Honestly, I think your priorities are kinda fucked up there.



Yeah, well I'm a fucked up and flawed person. Sex is the only pleasure that I get out of life.

So give me a break.

Please.
nalgas
QUOTE (username @ Jun 17 2006, 03:40 AM) *
Yeah, well I'm a fucked up and flawed person. Sex is the only pleasure that I get out of life.

Maybe if you were on the right antidepressant, you'd be able to find pleasure in other things, too, in addition to just sex. Just an idea. Depression does kind of suck for its ability to take those other things away from us, though, eh?
Ella
As far as I'm concerned, sex is a pretty big piece of the pleasure pie. Even when you're enjoying that piece all by your lonesome.

I've always had a hopping-good libido, so I can empathize. If I were a guy I'd be walking around with erections all the time--so glad I don't have to deal with that embarrassment! So it would feel like a limb had been hacked off if I couldn't get aroused easily; I just wouldn't be Me. I know that probably sounds pathetic, but there it is. I gotta be horny me. I would ditch the Prozac in a NY minute, too. Solidarity! *snort* Did you get the pun there? devlish.gif

Hope you find a workable AD, U.
nalgas
QUOTE (Ella @ Jun 19 2006, 03:24 AM) *
As far as I'm concerned, sex is a pretty big piece of the pleasure pie. Even when you're enjoying that piece all by your lonesome.

I've always had a hopping-good libido, so I can empathize. If I were a guy I'd be walking around with erections all the time--so glad I don't have to deal with that embarrassment! So it would feel like a limb had been hacked off if I couldn't get aroused easily; I just wouldn't be Me. I know that probably sounds pathetic, but there it is. I gotta be horny me. I would ditch the Prozac in a NY minute, too. Solidarity! *snort* Did you get the pun there? :devlish:

Hope you find a workable AD, U.

Don't get me wrong; I've always joked that I have enough libido to go around to cure the entire SSRI board of their favorite side effect and still have enough left over for myself, and I'm quite a fan of "that piece of the pie", however it's served. Mmm, pie. It's just that one of the major symptoms of the thing being treated by these meds in the first place is the loss of interest in or ability to take pleasure in activities. Being able to do that and have a full life should be seen as a reasonable long-term goal, not just feeling alright and having some sex, although that's definitely a part of it. I'm not saying one should be sacrificed for the other, but they both should be taken into consideration.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled sex. Mmm, sex.
hollywoodfreaks
Ok, quitting a med after 5 days because you can't get it up is just dumb. You need to give it time, yo. At least a month or two. Patience is a virtue. And if I were you, having recently written posts about being very suicidal, sex would be at the bottom of my list. I know you're very young, but in the end you will appreciate your sanity more than sex. Trust me. I'm relatively young too and struggling with the same sex issues, but there's a reason the people on this board say over and over again that sanity is more important than sex.
nalgas
QUOTE (hollywoodfreaks @ Jun 20 2006, 06:18 PM) *
Ok, quitting a med after 5 days because you can't get it up is just dumb. You need to give it time, yo. At least a month or two. Patience is a virtue. And if I were you, having recently written posts about being very suicidal, sex would be at the bottom of my list. I know you're very young, but in the end you will appreciate your sanity more than sex. Trust me. I'm relatively young too and struggling with the same sex issues, but there's a reason the people on this board say over and over again that sanity is more important than sex.

I knew there was more I'd meant to say in my last post but hadn't said, and some of it was along the lines of some of that. Unless a side effect is truly intolerable or causing actual harm or dangerous in some way, it's really worth sticking out for a bit to see if it goes away as your body and brain adjust to the med. If you take Wellbutrin and start having seizures, that's a good reason to probably just not take it ever again. On the other hand, if you just get a little more tired than usual on Celexa or something, that seems pretty reasonable to try to wait out. I'm pretty sure if your penis has fallen and can't get up, that ends up in the second category, not the first. It sucks, but it's not going to kill you for a couple weeks or a month while waiting to see if it gets better or stays the same.
Ella
QUOTE (nalgas @ Jun 19 2006, 04:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Ella @ Jun 19 2006, 03:24 AM) *

As far as I'm concerned, sex is a pretty big piece of the pleasure pie. Even when you're enjoying that piece all by your lonesome.

I've always had a hopping-good libido, so I can empathize. If I were a guy I'd be walking around with erections all the time--so glad I don't have to deal with that embarrassment! So it would feel like a limb had been hacked off if I couldn't get aroused easily; I just wouldn't be Me. I know that probably sounds pathetic, but there it is. I gotta be horny me. I would ditch the Prozac in a NY minute, too. Solidarity! *snort* Did you get the pun there? devlish.gif

Hope you find a workable AD, U.

Don't get me wrong; I've always joked that I have enough libido to go around to cure the entire SSRI board of their favorite side effect and still have enough left over for myself, and I'm quite a fan of "that piece of the pie", however it's served. Mmm, pie.


Before I began taking Lamictal, I probably had enough libido to cure the entire state of PA of their SSRI-related sex woes. It was just wacky, though. Excessive. I'm sorry there wasn't a way to bottle it and give it to the downtrodden masses here.

I have to concede that five days is a little early to pass judgement on a drug. Side-effects do often wear off given a couple to several weeks. (This I do know from personal experience.)
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