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  1. I seriously don't think that anyone has ever died from 0.5mg of Clonazepam and a glass of wine. In the case of that girl who fell into a coma after not having eaten anything for days, then taking valium and drinking several cocktails was probably a mix of many factors) but more an exception than the norm. Bruce Lee for instance died from a painkiller but that's an exception too. I know that a lot of rock stars and actors died from mixing pills and alcohol but I bet there was a lot of booze and a lot of pills(probably illegal drugs as well) that led to their death. I personally drank alcohol on Clonazepam without any ill effects: no blackouts, no aggressiveness, no side effects. I know that people advise against alcohol and benzos but smoking cigarettes isn't healthy either(as it says on the package) and I bet hundred of thousands of people more die from smoking cigarettes each year than from mixing low doses of benzos with a drink but hundred of millions of people smoke anyway. I'm not advising to GO FOR IT(it is always better not to do it) but I think the risk of something serious happening at a low dose of Clonazepam and a drink is pretty low. Of course not mixing the two eliminates all risk.
  2. Thanks for your advice. I live in Germany so it's a bit different here although I did get a list from my insurance and actually checked out two therapists which I am basically seeing at the same time. In Germany you can have 5 sessions with a therapist to "check him out" and if you decide to choose that therapist, they pay for the therapy no matter how long it takes. I've seen both therapists twice but can't really say what I think about either yet. I recently joined an anxiety support group. I went there once and one guy mentioned he would give me a list of really good therapists(although I did think it was kind of fishy that they didn't really seem to help in his case ) The Psychoanalyst is actually an MD as well but in general medicine and not in Psychiatry. In Germany most people in the medical area are benzo-phobic. If a person smokes, has a bad diet and drinks excessively it's no big deal but if someone like me takes a small dose of Klonopin, I get looked at like I'm some crack-addict. lol...me too. They always seem to have some kind of "know it all" attitude.
  3. I think we both agree on the same thing: depression and anxiety is natural and I personally think that ALL people can get this at some point of their life and if any traumatic circumstances(cancer, death of a near person, traumatic experience, accident, stress, bad relationship etc), occurs, everyone can develop an disorder. An anxiety disorder develops if the person experiences anxiety and then over-reacts to those symptoms. Then he wonders what the hell is going on and starts fearing those feelings. A vicious circle begins and the persons conditions himself to over-react more and more. After a while any small thing can trigger anxiety. If that wasn't the case, CBT wouldn't be able to work. It basically re-conditions the ways a person thinks. Although I DO think some people are more prone to develop anxiety(like me) but at the end of the day A LOT of people have anxiety. Smoking, drinking alcohol,doing drugs, eating too much or too little, being over concerned with your looks or what people think about you are all anxious behaviors. I grew up in New York until I was a teenager. Then my family moved to Germany so most stuff I read on anxiety was in German. In German there are no two words for fear and anxiety. Both words are called Angst. I felt from moving from New York and the USA, which I loved to Germany and having to learn a new language and feeling homesick for years is what led to my anxiety disorder when I was 17(triggered by smoking pot). My brother and sister didn't develop an anxiety disorder but turned to drugs. Years later my sister began having panic attacks and my brother turned to drinking. I think we all developed this from the circumstances of our lives.
  4. My purpose wasn't to make an anxiety disorder seem less "crazy" than other mental illnesses. I just didn't agree that ALL mental diseases are incurable. Some are definitely incurable but I'm sure that people have been 100% cured from anxiety or depression. Maybe so but I still don't believe that there are people who never experience any form of an anxiety. Maybe there are people who don't get anxious very quickly but to have no anxiety whatsoever is hard to believe. My intention wasn't to argue when I made the statement that the feeling of anxiety is natural. If people disagree then I'll accept that. If a person is looking out of the window of a tall building and gets severe anxiety then that's not natural anxiety anymore. There is no actual danger so it makes no sense to feel anxiety. In other words, it is a disorder. Of course it is a minor disorder and the person probably doesn't necessarily need treatment because you can live with the fear of heights. Still, if you DO treat it by exposure and cure that with therapy that would mean that the disorder is cured.....but again, I already mentioned that with the word cure I also meant treatable. If a disorder can be treated to the extent that it is almost or mostly gone that is what I meant with cure.
  5. But he also said "existential anxiety and clinical anxiety are all one and the same thing before that. So if someone broke into your house and threatens to kill you, you just get a bit of adrenalin and tell him to bud off? You'd probably be scared for your life. I believe that you might not be an anxious type and don't over react to situations that might be scary but fear, anger, joy etc are all natural feelings. Anyway, if you believe that you have never ever experienced fear or will ever experience it no matter what, I will not try to convince you. I actually envy you and wish I could be like that.
  6. Exactly. There is no one on earth who never experienced fear or anxiety.
  7. ALL people have anxiety. Anxiety is natural. I have to comment on this. I don't think I have ever experienced anxiety. No social anxiety, no panic attacks, no anxiety of any kind. I hate generalizations. It is NOT true that "all people have anxiety." Just sayin' olga Anxiety is a natural feeling and you wouldn't be able to survive without it. You may not have an anxiety DISORDER but if you cross the street and a truck heads towards you or you get mugged and a guy pulls a knife, I am pretty sure you will get anxiety. I'm also pretty sure everybody has a certain point of social anxiety. as well. Everyone is embarrassed if he makes a fool out of himself. It's the degree that makes the difference of how much anxiety a person develops and if he suffers from it.
  8. I also would say that if the anxiety level goes down to a normal level, you're cured. It doesn't mean you don't have any anxiety anymore because ALL people have anxiety. It just means you don't over-react to certain situations. Of course it can come back but like I mentioned anxiety or panic attacks can hit any person at any time for any reason. If you break a leg and let it heal it doesn't mean you can't break a leg again. I also don't think you need to keep practicing CBT for it to work. One example is if you're scared of flying and you lose that fear by flying, you might be really terrified at first. Once you lose that fear, you don't have to keep practicing flying. I think what you need to keep practicing is to avoid avoidance. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you call it curable or treatable, I think the therapist meant that someone who has chronic anxiety like mine is not treatable. Her look and the way she said it, sounded like there is not much you can do if you have had anxiety for such a long time. According to her my thinking pattern that causes the anxiety is hard to change if I have chronic anxiety. Probably because psychoanalysis will do little or nothing for this kind of anxiety. When I just had my anxiety problems years ago, I went to a therapist who did talk therapy. Even back then I knew that I won't be able to get rid of my problem by talking about it. My self-therapy that helped me much more was a form of CBT. I just faced my fears. It's like my example of being scared of drowning. You can talk and analyze why you're scared of drowning all you want but learning to swim will be much more effective.
  9. I guess it was because she was a psychoanalysis therapist. They often don't think CBT is the right method but she also didn't think that psychoanalysis.could help me either. I will definitely try to find a good CBT therapist to learn to cope with my anxiety.
  10. My statement was more in the context of curability. A mental illness like schizophrenia is incurable but if someone has an extreme fear of spiders, he also has an anxiety disorder called Arachnophobia which is definitely curable.
  11. Actually that's a good question. I thought about that during the day. I mean the therapist talked to me for an hour. How can she tell what can be cured or not. Also what is the definition of "cure"? ALL people have anxiety. Anxiety is natural. My over-reacting to anxiety started when I was 17 so you can say my anxiety disorder started then. But by self-therapy I managed to live a life with an anxiety level from around 1-2(from a scale of 1 to 10). So basically if it didn't effect my life too much so I was basically "cured". The reason I don't consider myself as cured though is that there are certain situations that can re-trigger my anxiety. As long as I don't get these situations under control, I wouldn't consider myself as being completely cured. I would compare my situation to someone who is afraid of water/drowning. He can be afraid all his life and if he does nothing, the situation will remain but if he learns to swim, he will still be afraid of drowning but he will hardly think about it if he learns to become a good swimmer.
  12. I wouldn't go so far to call anxiety and depression a mental illness though. At least not in the sense as psychosis or schizophrenia. Anyone can get an anxiety disorder at any time and for any cause. That's why Claire Weekes calls an anxiety disorder a "nervous illness" in her book "Hope and Help for your Nerves" because shes sees a difference between this and other mental illnesses. If someone is scared of heights, he also has an anxiety disorder but that can definitely be cured.
  13. I'm just checking out several therapists because I want to do a CBT. I'm totally ambitious and prepared to work on my anxiety and try to cope with it the best I can. Today I went to a therapist who basically told me it was impossible to get off of benzos at home and you can only do it at a hospital . As far as I know, most people get off benzos at home and not in a hospital. I guess it will take patience and time to find the right therapist. She only does psychoanalysis and not CBT so she wasn't the right therapist anyway. I guess it will take patience and time to find he right therapist.
  14. At the moment I'm looking for a new therapist which I realized is kind of hard to do. Today I went to a therapist who specializes in psychoanalysis. She told me that a therapist who does CBT would be better in my case(which is probably correct) but she added if a person has had generalized anxiety as long as I've had it, it is basically incurable. That was kind of a downer to hear. Ok, most of my time I have had my anxiety in check and felt 90% ok without therapy so anything that can improve that is already a victory but I always hoped that with therapy I could actually heal my disorder or at least there would be the hope or possibility of complete healing. According to this therapist that is not possible?
  15. Yeah, I found that out. I've just discovered this thread on here which sorta reminds me of the various claims and theories on benzo sites: http://www.crazyboar...ymptoms-return/ I mean if anyone can show me hard scientific evidence that it is possible to get w/d symptoms after being off the med for years or still are having w/d symptoms after 4-5 years as some people claim, then I will believe it. Otherwise I am convinced that it is all anxiety based and should be treated accordingly. The person has no doubt whatsoever that it could be something else but withdrawal. The OP even mentions that he had stress and a lot of fatigue but doesn't want to accept that it could be an anxiety problem. The last poster claims: Is he a scientist of any sort? On what does he base these claims? What should a person with anxiety issues like me do with these kind of infos or similar? They don't help at all. They only make you more anxious and hesitant to try to get off your med.
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