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Let me start out by saying I AM NOT IN ANY DANGER TO MYSELF RIGHT NOW. This isn't some thinly veiled attempt at justifying my desire to die. As many of us have probably been doing in the last few days, I've been thinking a lot about depression and suicide in light of Robin William's suicide. Since then there have been hundreds of articles flooding the media on the subject of mental illness- particularly depression and bipolar disorder. I've noticed 2 different themes in these articles-- 1) Someone with extreme depression who attempts suicide should not be held responsible for their actions because they weren't in a healthy mental state to begin with. Basically cause of death is depression. 2) Someone with extreme depression who attempts suicide should be held responsible for their actions. Regardless of what state of mind a person is in, a choice to die is a choice. It is a choice made when you're at your worst, and therefore perhaps not one they would have chosen were they in a healthy state of mind. But it is a choice nonetheless. I'm torn between both lines of thinking. On one hand, option number 1 kind of creates a dismal mood for anyone suffering depression. "If my depression gets bad enough, no matter what I do in the end I'll just kill myself anyways." It kind of creates a victim-like, hopeless mentality. OBVIOUSLY I know that when you're actually experiencing this these are things you think constantly. That doesn't necessarily make it reality. However, option number 2 is kind of a douchy thing to think in all honesty. I've been there- I've never actually attempted, but I've had dark enough periods (months on end) where that's all I can think about. So I know the hopelessness that comes with bad depression. And when I'm in a healthy state of mind, I never ever would think poorly of myself for having suicidal thoughts. It's been weighing heavily on my mind, especially today. Someone posted one of the aforementioned articles, and it clearly took the stance of option number 1. And tbh it really bugged me-- "He didn't chose to commit suicide. Depression killed him." No. Depression didn't go out and kill Robin Williams. Depression caused him to make the choice to die. I dunno. I may not have explained it as well as I would have liked, but I think you guys get the idea. What do you think? I'm honestly interested in everyone's input.