feeling sick from hearing voices

[blackbunny19]

i everyone,

I'd like to know if anyone else feels sick when they are hearing voices or am i the only one. When im hearing internal voices, i get this sickening feeling along with it. It's kind've hard to describe, but it's kind've like im nausiated and shaky and as if i've had too much caffine. For some reason, it;s usually worst when i wake up in the morning and this makes it hard to get out of bed. I'll feel really sick along with hearing these voices mumbling and rambling on in my head.

also, if anyone wants to, i made a post on the bipolar section titled "weird doctor diagnosed me with Bipolar" If anyone wants to read it, it would be nice to have your opinions.

thanks

[DMF]

DD definitely can be like this although not all the time - I thought it was anxiety although she insists she doesn't get anxious. Her eyes sometimes dilate, too, when she's having serious hallucinations.

[blackbunny19]

DD definitely can be like this although not all the time - I thought it was anxiety although she insists she doesn't get anxious. Her eyes sometimes dilate, too, when she's having serious hallucinations.

some people have suggested to me as well that it's probably anxiety, but i also don't feel anxious or scared or anything , so i don't think it's anxiety.

[realitytest]

blackbunny,

I can't relate directly but as you may have read, my son has suffered greatly from hearing Voices (or in his case, it seems to be one Voice, primarily). I have read a lot and even belong to a group (listed below) called "VoiceSupporters" for those whose family/friends hear voices and/or who hear voices themselves.

Unfortunately , that group is pretty defunct, tho they put out a good list of coping strategies (also below). More strategies are being found all the time, some quite technical.

That 's so, the more it's recognized that the phenomenon is physically based. A change in the auditory cortex often precedes actual dx . Also when a person is hearing a voice, the brain waves in de Broca's area are just the same as when hearing "real live voices".

No wonder it's so hard for voice hearers to know what's "real" and what isn't! Sounds like hell - and I've heard from an awful lot of sufferers. Everyone's experience is completely unique it seems (some even cherish them, and the voices remain benign tho that is NOT typical).

The Voice Hearers' Group site itself is much livelier than the one for Supporters, and has a pretty good webpage too (both linked below). I've read their site (lots of interesting stories) but am not personally allowed to join as it's purely for those with the experience.

It seems that apart from everything else, talking to others who've been there in itself is very, very helpful. At that site, you're bound to find a great many who know just what it's like. In fact, if you're in the Manchester England area, there are meetings and live support groups. Also a number to call and discuss the experience with.

I've also patched together a bunch of useful coping lists, research links (to do with TMS - don't know how that is panning out), and even a special "trainer" through the great power4U.org site begun by Dr. Dan Fisher. It's part of his "Empowerment movement", He's the psychiatrist with sz (got his MD and PhD AFTER multiple hospitalizations too!).

I hope very much, that something there helps.

Meanwhile, remember – you are NOT alone. In general, not, and specifically not with this experience. If there's one thing I've learned, it's how extremely common it is.

In fact, a good many people "only" hear voices as their single abnormal symptom. They just learn to function with them in various ways as they go about their daily life. (Some even wear cell phone headsets so if they talk back to their voices, it looks like a phone call! ).

They strategize same as some others live with "tinnitus" (ringing in the ears), or even musical hallucinations. Very neurologically based, as they find out accidentally when brain surgery is performed. .

Of course, it depends on how distressing the voices are for that person – or even if they're distressing at all. It sounds like you are very distressed indeed, and I hope so much you find relief, blackbunny .

Best regards,

realitytest

(Sorry everybody else for the scrolling. There's a lot of meaty material here for those who hear voices).

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voicesupporters@yahoogroups.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/voice-hearers/

For anybody in the UK, especially Manchester

HEARING VOICES CONFIDENTIAL HELPLINE

0845 122 8642

10am – 4pm Monday to Friday

calls are charged at local rate

Hearing Voices Network

79 Lever Street.

Manchester M1 1FL

Enquiries and information: 0845 122 8641

Email: info@hearing-voices.org

Website: www.hearing-voices.org

Registered Charity Number 1094201 Hours: M-F, 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM

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http://www.power2u.org/index.html

They have training seminars:

Which

"A modified version of this training emphasizing self help skill building (and no simulation experience) is available for voice hearers who want to learn to control or eliminate distressing voices".

Call the National Empowerment Center, Inc., at 1-800-769-3728 for more information

can also email:

Amy Long, Hearing Voices Trainer/Educator: a.long@power2u.org

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Research on use of TMS (transmagnetic stimulation) to alleviate voice hearing experience)

Psychiatric Times

... Hoffman et al. (2000) acknowledged that the variability of response to rTMS may

reflect such factors as individual differences in the anatomical location of ...

www.psychiatrictimes.com/p000701b.html - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/496285

same guy - interview

clinical & research news

... So Hoffman and his colleagues wondered whether delivering rTMS to the left

temporoparietal cortex could subdue the auditory hallucinations that patients with ...

www.psych.org/pnews/00-06-02/treat.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages

Ralph Hoffman, MD: Department of Psychiatry

... Dr. Hoffman is now utilizing patient-specific fMRI maps to position rTMS in patients

experiencing especially severe auditory hallucinations with encouraging ...

info.med.yale.edu/psych/faculty/hoffman.html - 13k - Mar 9, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

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http://www.purplepippa.co.uk/hearingVoices.html

also offers strategies, a Voice hearer

File - strategies (from VoiceHearers)

This is a file which will be sent to the list every month, and to all new

members. It is a culmination of discussions of different strategies which can

help you to cope with distressing voices. If you can think of any more, do

please suggest them to the list so that they can be added to this file.

Strategies for Dealing with Distressing Voices

1) Distraction - put the radio on, or even better, a walkman with headphones.

2) Talk back to the voices. Challenge them. Ask them to go away.

3) Selective Listening - Give your voices an hour or so a day when you will

listen to them. Bargain with them and say that if they are quiet now (at work

for instance, or in the pub) then you will listen to what they have to say at an

agreed time.

4) Talk to other people (who you can trust and who won't overreact) about your

voices. Discuss what they say, how they say it, who the voices may represent.

THe more you understand your experience of voice hearing the easier it will

become to cope with it.

5) Read about voices. Some good books are: "Recovery An Alien Concept" by Ron

Coleman, "Accepting Voices" by Marius Romme and Sandra Escher, and "Hearing

Voices a Common Human Experience" by John Watkins

6) Learn some relaxation techniques. If you become anxious because of your

voices, use these techniques to get rid of the anxiety.

7) Write a letter to your voices. Maybe explain to them how you feel about

them, how you would like them to behave, or anything that comes into your mind.

8) If you are out in public and you want to talk back to your voices without the

stigma of supposedly talking to yourself, get a mobile phone, pretend to dial,

and talk into that instead. If you don't have a mobile phone, ask around your

friends to see if any of them have one which they don't use any more (remember

the phone doesn't have to work).

9) Some people find that yawning or opening their mouths can help to block the

sound of the voices.

10) Earplugs in one or both ears (experiment!) can help to block out disturbing

voices.

11) Focus on one word and one word only. Repeat it, either in your mind or out

loud, again and again. This turns the focus away from the voices and onto

something else.

12) Take one day, one hour or one minute at a time during the difficult patches.

13) Do something fun that you enjoy once in awhile to reward yourself for

putting up with the voices. You deserve it!

[DMF]

Good post, Reality. I'm at the point of thinking that doctors are missing the point...finding the right meds are a really slow process and some patients don't every find one that completely removes the hallucinations so you end up with needing to learn some really keen coping skills. PDocs are not terribly good about that, I'm sorry to say.

[blackbunny19]

HI reality, thanks for all your help. I always really appreciate your replies because they are so helpful and detailed. Sorry i took so long to reply.

I've use some of the coping stratagies you listed. and some of them are very helpful. It helps most for me to be around other people and talk out loud to them. It seems i don't hear the voices as much if im not alone. And keeping stress as low as possible and getting lots of sleep also help keep the voices at a minimum.

I think i've visited the voice hearers website you mentioned (or at least one very much like it). IT seemed really interesting. Thanks for reminding me of it.

[Ricardo]

Blackbunny, i'm a voicehearer myself and when i read Reality's cientific explanation it almost killed me, it's funny but medicines and cientific explanations don

[Ricardo]

medicines

Dmf, about medication the best i tried was zeldox, the voices don't disappear anyway and i enjoy being awaked during the day.With Seroquel you only sleep, with zyprexa you do nothing during the day and with pleasure you stay all night long until the sun shines again, risperdal never tryed it, with zeldox you stay a bit dizzy but it helps at least its not very strong, strong medicines during too long are not good, me personally, i drop 2 of 60mg at night together with sleeping pills, sleep deeply during 6 hours and walkabout during one or two hours, having coffee, buying some music, sometimes even travelling somewhere during the day (no pills) and trying to relax the rest of the day watching television or doing nothing really, and you got to be brave, don

[confused]

i everyone,

I'd like to know if anyone else feels sick when they are hearing voices or am i the only one

I'm sure you're not the only one. I haven't heard voices for a long time. I get a really bad headache. The first time it happened I told my sister my heard hurt because I was using too many "power" words. I don't even know what that means. I was convinced my thoughts were causing the headache.