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My mom, also BP1 (in denial of this but does see a pdoc- weird) accuses me of not being able to deal with life and of "popping a pill" every time life gets hard.

These are such stupid statements. People die everyday from med non-compliance. Compliant patients have much better survival rates.

I tell her I'm a loon. She says "yes, there's something wrong iwth you, but you are stronger than that", as if it were a matter of just deciding to be strong.

It took a lot of strength when I was 18, after years of hearing her preach against meds, to go to the pdoc and get my meds. She wouldn't allow me to be treated before I was 18 and went myself.

So, do you have people in your lives who act like weirdos and just don't get it that we need meds for a medical purpose, not some kind of crutch?

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Yep Mom used to (she died) and was a raging BP1 and Dad was also a psycho BP1. They totally thought I was "fine" didn't need meds just a "lot of activities to keep me busy" and that I was a caring, "emotional" person. yeah uh-huh.

lilie

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I have a friend who is a social worker, and even she tells me to do yoga, eat healthy, and exercise, and I'll be fine, because it works for her. Well, I've got news for her. Her depression is nothing like mine. I feel like slapping her.

She also says, "You have to make an effort and go do things and you'll feel better," when I am incapable of even taking a shower.

I really think that there needs to be a new word for major depression. It is NOT like everybody else's "I feel blah today."

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i don't really have anyone close to me who thinks i shouldn't take meds....my dad agrees that i need my pills, but he seems to think at the same time, that my life would be a lot easier if i just tried harder. My meds help, but they don't make me 100% "normal", so i still struggle with certain things. My dad thinks that If i think positive and try as hard as i can and push myself to the limit, that i'd be much better than i am.

...he doesn't get it that i already am pushing myself to the limit and it's just not good enough for him.

He's always saying "You can do anything or be anyone you want. You can be very successful in life"

....eh, Sorry dad, but an individual with schizophrenia is not likely to be extreamly successful!

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I think I've said this before, but my friend told me bipolar could be cured with talk therapy. And she said that I was on too many meds and that's why I was so crazy.

And then she heard me psychotic over the phone.

I would also like to know what constitutes "trying harder."

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Yeah, I just had that conversation with my mom. About how apparently I would have been better off over the past eight years if I had never gone on any medication, and about how I should try to treat my psychotic symptoms with "conditioning" instead of medication.

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i've gotten that too....yes, meds made me crazy. i wish. i need to learn to "cope" better? haha, it's almost funny how little people know about bipolar disorder. i don't know how to express myself in the best way, but all i know is that is pisses me off....grr.

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i've gotten that too....yes, meds made me crazy.

When you get that, just ask precisely HOW were the medications able to travel back in time

to cause the crazyness that caused you to go to the doctor who later prescribed you those

medications.

When the "friend"/relative huffs about the psychiatric "establishment"/"youth today"/etc.,

follow up with "What? Do you seriously think there's some kind of alien government

conspiracy to dope our water with drugs to drive us crazy and force us to drug ourselves? "

Extra points for: adding a loud "ARE YOU CRAZY??"

doing it in a public location

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I'm on the schizo side of things and not bi-polar but I can definitely identify with this issue.

My mother does not accept that I need medication. She thinks Im just like my grandmother who popped a pill for every woe in life and was booted out of a psych hospital because the doctors said there was nothing wrong with her.

My mother thinks the cure for psychosis is eating a good diet and getting plenty of exercise. She believes in battling through illness and not taking meds. She has GAD and has been unmedicated for 60 years.

I have to hide my prescriptions of Zyprexa because "If I find out you are on any of those drugs ending in -pine it will kill me". And she hates my "hallyperrol" (haldol) too. She has a piece of paper with the words "Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome" sitting on the mantel in case I look a bit ill and she has to tell the doctor what's wrong with me.

I resisted medication for ages based on her lamentations - "You'll get fat! You'll be slow and tired! You'll kill me!". Those were years I could have been on Zyprexa having a good life! ;)

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Oh, get this one-

I have an aunt who is just Crazy NOS. Since i am not her pdoc and stay FAR away from her (for my own mental health), i have no way of guessing what her DX(es) would be. MDD for sure, but BP runs in the family.

Anyway-

;) After my father killed himself by ODing on psych meds, she decided to stop taking hers because they were obviously responsible. not that he couldn't take it anymore, no, it was WB and if he wasn't on WB he'd be fine!

people people people

Stay FAR away from "Aunt Scary" and you'll be FINE!

-- Loon's RX for mental health, for every DX

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Come on now Loon.. ya gotta know we are weeeeaaak right.. all the STRONG ones are out there without their meds... oh.. that's right, they are either dead , in jail or on Opra... sorry to all the Scientologusts us s ..

Me I am weak,, real weak,, check all the shit at the bottom :) of m' page... I am a druggy.. yep 4 sure...

Like the nice psychologists said just last weak ( i did that on purpose just cuz I am on drugs ya know) , once you find what brought you to this point and deal with it, you won't be sick any more.. HELLO...

any doubt of aliens now???

this sucker ain't from this world,, but then , he isn't alone...

remember BP's . we are the no. 1 cause of all illegal activity now.. if you don't believe me . watch the tv.. ur one of the bad guys now,, and meds or not , you should or should not be on or off them depending on whether you are or are not, depending on the show and the moon, and the time of day and the channel.. l .. 2 ..3......

But remember,, better be NICE.. and GOOD ... and no DRUGS... cuz they are BAD and you are WEAK so

:cussing: why don't they all take their advice and ;) sideways..

but that is just one junkie's oppinion...

david

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I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BUT I'M TOO WEAK TO KNOW!! LOL

new one "you are addicted to your meds".

Well, you can have physical dependency on SSRI drugs, but the ones I'm taking won't do that I don't think. but even if i am, i'd rather be a druggie!!!

DEA- look here for your drug busts! we're on drugs and out of our minds!

loon

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Better still (or really worse--)

My SON is exactly like me, BP II and ADD, with learning disabilities. REFUSES to take any medications, says he wants to prove to himself that he can "make it" without the drugs.

I must admit he is doing better, but jesus, why make your life so much more complicated??

I simply cannot understand--except all those "say no to drugs" lectures he heard at school must have taken in his brain somehow, and were not overcome by being raised by bikers and being around drugs, both good and bad, all his life. He does "self medicate" with pot, but take a medication for his illnesses? NEVER NEVER NEVER--he meditated, does yoga, has learned to withdraw, has learned NOT to leave the house when hypo, cause he WILL spend money he doresn't have.

So--guess its working for him. Odd--

china, often confused

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Just had a thought (God, 2 in one evening)--

I think being Mentally Interesting with ANY dx is rather like being homosexual. We were born this waybecause who in their right mind (LOL) would WANT to live with a very screwy brain?

Do they think we do this for fun? Or entertainment? or its a "lifestyle choice?" Or we can be "re-programmed"????

Sorry, charlie, my brain doesn't work "right", and it never has, and probably never will. So I take medications. I am no more "curable" than a diabetic, or someone who is gay. You can't "fix " me, cause I am not broken I am just wired differently.

So get of my case and go find some other minority group to harrass. I know, you are running low on groups that it is politically correct to harrass, but I am sure you can find someone.

Meanwhile, stay the fuck away from me.

Rrrrrrrrtr! (pirate talk, you know)

Cpt. china of the erratic ship BIP

(sorry, my parrott ran away after he got into my meds--)

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I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BUT I'M TOO WEAK TO KNOW!! LOL

new one "you are addicted to your meds".

Well, you can have physical dependency on SSRI drugs, but the ones I'm taking won't do that I don't think. but even if i am, i'd rather be a druggie!!!

DEA- look here for your drug busts! we're on drugs and out of our minds!

loon

Oh MY God Loon Help.. I am doing it again... my evening fix...

I have all these.. these bottles.. and they are filled with ;) DRUGS :) . all sorts of shit.. man some weird stuff man,,

but ,, I just gotta.. I have the NEED.... or I think I will go NUTZ...

Can you help me???

..................like find some NEW ones :cussing:

Well there ain't much on TV tonight ... so ,, with are rep and all.

might as well hang out the sign..

:wtf:

gets boring after a while.. but .. notched off the ol' bed post long ago so ...

anywho..

just read I .. and my lamotrigine , shouldn't go out in the sun..

ain't life grand! everyone has got to try this BP thing..

and will that ringing in my ears ever go away... they said it was temporary

some 80 odd ects ago...

hey..!!! another poster for YOU want to be BP Don't YOU!!??

ahh shit ,, dropped a pill ...

better find it before the cat does....

david

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Yes, here's my sign too, forget astrology, this one is far better: ;)

Yeppers China- others just need to pick on us.

Somehow, MI has become an issue of "inner strength" or "faith" and not a real illness that needs to be treated with DRUGS.

I'm helping my cousin move into a house (she is married with 2 kids- real project). Anyway, she said to me "I can tell you're not on drugs anymore because you don't look like a zombie and look so bright in your eyes". My point??!! I TAKE ALL THESE F-ING DRUGS, INCLUDING ZYPREXA!!! LOL

I can't think of a stronger psych med off hand than Zyprexa. I take a huge dose of WB too. And all those other DRUGS.

But somehow, self-medicating with alcohol and cigs is ok for her, but DRUGS to maintain mental balance is bad for us.

Funny- I'm on so many drugs, but because I'm "bright" eyed, I must have quit my drugs! lol

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