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How weird is this and using (supposedly)ONE quote from the bible? Is it me or is this a worrisome trend? Maybe this is a personality conflict gone awry?

Sunday school teacher fired for being female

Updated: 8/18/2006 5:53 AM

By: Amy Ohler

Since 1946, Mary Lambert has been a member of the First Baptist Church in Watertown, and for the past 11 years, she's been the Sunday school teacher.

But, last Thursday Lambert received a letter from the Diaconate Board telling her that she was dismissed from her position because the board had adopted the scriptural qualifications for Sunday school teachers. In short, this prohibits women from teaching men.

"I was astonished, absolutely astonished to pick up and read that kind of a letter without being talked to ahead of time about the possibility," said Mary Lambert.

The letter Lambert received says, "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became sinner."

The letter was signed, "Thank you for your anticipated cooperation. Very truly yours, Kendra LaBouf." Kendra is the wife of City Council Member and Pastor Tim LaBouf.

"I've had a number of calls from people within the church being as astonished at the letter as I was, and the community at large seems to be at various sides that this could happen," said Lambert.

A pastor and Watertown city council member fired a woman who served as a church teacher. The reason? Her gender. News 10 Now's Amy Ohler spoke with Sunday school teacher Mary Lambert about her dismissal and the letter that let her go.

"And she is a woman, and when we women fought for equal rights for a long time, since 1929 hasn't it been? And anytime a pastor, or somebody who's led by god, they should know Christ in their heart," said Watertown resident Linda Norquest.

News 10 Now did put in calls to both Tim LaBouf and the church for comment, but those calls were not returned. As for Lambert, she said although she's upset, she's not giving up on her church.

Lambert said she feels there's more to her dismissal than the scriptual qualifications. Last month, Lambert and two others were kicked off the Diaconate Board. They were told they were being removed for attendance issues.

Lambert said things started to slowly change at the church two years ago when LaBouf became the pastor

http://news10now.com/content/top_stories/d...ArID=76479&

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lilie:

There are churches where the people are "Bible literalists." They believe that the Bible is the Word of God, and they take everything in it literally. Sometimes they refer to themselves as "Bible-based" or other phrases including the word "Bible."

Some of the Baptist churches around here do not allow women to preach or be pastors or teach Bible study classes. If you really want to get your knickers in a twist, read the Gospel of Paul---he's the one they usually quote to keep the womenfolk in their place.

I will repeat what I've said elsewhere on this board: these are the actions of fundamentalists, and have nothing to do with the vast majority of Christians in this country. If you visit a church of the Methodist, Reformed, Lutheran, Episcopal, Presbyterian, or Unitarian sects, you will find female pastors, deacons, bishops and Sunday School teachers. You will also find women rabbis in the Jewish faith.

There are many more Christian (and Jewish) moderates than fundamentalists. They're just quieter.

olga

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Well it appears to be an indepent Baptist church. So they aren't constrained by any national or international church dogma, policy or interpretation. We may disagree but we can't fault them for violating their faith.

Memberships change and pastors are generally chosen by the parishoners. They can only be led where thay want to go.

*shrug* Sometimes you have to change churches to be true to your concious.

Of course the opposite end of the spectrum are the Roman Catholics. They are organized and have it all written down in black and white. Very little room or need for interpretation. ;)

Yes, I think there are struggles over theological and philosophical issues going on in many if not most major churches in America, even the mainline churches. For example the Episcopal church is fracturing this summer as hundreds of parishes and even entire dioceses (regions) have announced intentions to secede. To a milder degree I can see this as an analog to the schisms in Islam over the last 25 years in reaction to increasing liberties and looser morals.

a.m.

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ay caramba the fundamentalists are worrisome then lets hope their numbers don't overtake the regular Christians, or Baptists or whatever

lilie

Truth shall reign supreme over lies! ;) The fundamentalists are either dumb or are false prophets. Anybody with an IQ over 20 will realise that the Bible was translated from a language that employed parables etc. and lacked our understanding of the world around us and is not to be taken in a literal sense. I refer to my MI as a demon or dragon but I do not mean it literally. Since the average IQ is 100, your fears shall never materialise. :)

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Lambert said she feels there's more to her dismissal than the scriptual qualifications. Last month, Lambert and two others were kicked off the Diaconate Board. They were told they were being removed for attendance issues.

Lambert said things started to slowly change at the church two years ago when LaBouf became the pastor

http://news10now.com/content/top_stories/d...ArID=76479&

It's not the church, it's the new pastor. His house, his rules. That's how it is in Baptist churches. He who holds the title, rules the roost. If nobody likes it, they can leave. It sucks, especially when you've been a part of a particular church for so long, but nobody ever accused the Baptists of being fair.

I personally think they are all hypocrites. My hubby use to deliver supplies to a couple Baptist churches around here. They never paid their bill! But the pastor had three cars and a big ass house. Greedy bastard! There should be a nice warm corner in hell waiting for him.

OH, and about the Roman Catholics rules being black and white and no need for interpretation....Wrong. They change the rules all the time. They kicked out St Christopher as a saint, they had that "no meat on fridays" rule that they changed, and they recently changed another one....For the life of me I can't remember what it is though. (But I haven't slept much in the past few days)

Croix

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"Mad Magazines' Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions" ©

1. We were waiting for you to arrive.

2. I guess that means we will have to start editing all the posts retroactively

3. Yeah, we started with an article that wasn't five years old and inaccurate to begin with.

4. Here's another church you don't belong to that is somehow persecuting you personally!

Rev. A. E. Neuman

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