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Oh this is awful.

I applied for a good job in my profession, went through the whole recruitment process including psychometric testing, came out with flying colours on the numerical and verbal testing and got offered the job. Got congratulated by family and friends that I'd landed the job, and resigned from my previous job.

Once I got the offer in writing and had to sign the contract it was revealed to me that the offer was subject to a satisfactory police check, which they wrote they do for all prospective employees. They did not mention anything of the sort either in the job ad or during the interview.

It did say on one of the forms included in my job offer that a previous conviction doesn't necessarily mean you won't be considered for employment, that all factors are taken into consideration.

Since I have one drink driving conviction from last year, and a couple of teenage shoplifting convictions that happened about 15 years ago, I revealed these, and wrote a letter to explain that apart from the drink driving, they happened a long time ago and that they in no way reflect how I am now. I have since that time got 2 university degrees, one with first class honours. I've been working in similar work since graduating, for the past 4-5 years, and never had any problems.

So I sign the contract and send in the letter of explanation. Someone phoned me to clarify and ask further details, and they said it would be ok, these things shouldn't be a problem as they are minor and happened when I was young. Then a couple of days later, I get another phone call, on the Friday before I'm due to start, saying that because I'd admitted to past convictions they cannot employ me.

He seemed to sympathise with my situation, so I pleaded with him to take it higher up to get a second opinion. He said he could maybe do that, but that everyone has been talking about it, so even if I did start work there, everyone would be "watching me" now.

So yeah this is really unfair and not only that, they really SCREWED UP. First of all they should have mentioned earlier about a police check, and not after I'd already been offered the job and gave up my exisiting job. Secondly, HR did not keep the matter confidential, so even if it had turned out that I could be employed there, it would be too late as it had been discussed by everyone. Thirdly, the job was offered subject to a "satisfactory police check". Well they haven't even done the police check (takes 20 days to get the results), and they have not determined whether it is "satisfactory". I asked what's their definition of satisfactory, does it mean it has to be a totally clear history with no convictions? They couldn't answer me that.

The whole situation sucks. I'm too ashamed to tell my family and friends, they all think I'm starting this great new job on monday. Not only that I turned down another job offer in order for this one, and now I have nothing.

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What a kick in the teeth.

They DO have sloppy hiring practices. A criminal check requirement should have been part of any position announcement, and during the first interview. The recent driving conviction probably carried the most weight. I don't see anyway to change their minds.

You can't hide reality. No dressing up for work and sitting int he park feeding pigeons all day. You need to fess up to your family today, otherwise you'll eat yourself up with guilt. You don't have to tell everyone you know the embarrasing details. Just tell them that there was an error and that it turned out you didn't meet all the requirements for the job and the supervisors wouldn't wave them. "It's true".

Hopfully you didn't burn any bridges with your last employer. Call him or go visit first think Monday morning, and see if they will take you back. Maybe they would take you back on a temporary basis till they find someone to fill your old position. This would give you more time to find another job.

Best of luck,

a.m.

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Angel:

It is indeed crappy, and I'm sorry you have to start all over again and find a new job.

Here's something else you should do: in my state, you can go to the Probation Department where the shoplifting occurred and essentially get that record sealed. Since it happened when you were a teenager, that should be fairly easy. I was convicted of a misdemeanor when I was young, but I had a sympathetic probation officer, and he got something for me......I think it was called "Relief from disposition" or something like that.

It was so cool because he said that when I filled out an application and it asked "Have you ever been convicted of a crime?" I could LEGALLY write "no." And I've been doing that for 35 years. I even had a security check when I was an Auxiliary Police officer, and this conviction did NOT show up on my record. I've had lots of responsible jobs, and none of those employers ever knew about the misdemeanor.

Obviously, the drunk driving conviction is recent and must be acknowledged, but you should check and see if you can get rid of the teenage stuff.

Good luck--

olga

Edited to say: I looked it up, and in my state it's called a Certificate of Relief from Disabilities. You can get one even if you've been convicted of a felony. So check it out---I don't know where you live, but I bet they have something similar.

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Y'know, this kinda thing happeneed to me once...for a freakin' PART TIME job at freakin' SHOPKO. Hell, I disclosed the Big Red Flag on my app, and they called and said "hey can you come to orientation tonite" and I says "um, no um..." so they say "next week? and so I say sure, cool. (hey, after 1 1/2 years of no job, I wasn't prepared to start work in like 4 hours!!!)

So like a week later I'm all nervous, getting ready for that first day of work in 18 months...6 hours before orientation...phone rings..."um yeah, I've been asked to call and inform you tthat we no longer have a position available for you..."

Dur??? Well OK I didn't disclose *everything* I've done but shit, like I know what or when for it all...(yeah I'm not exactly a momma's boy, but we all KNEW that)

Anyways more to the point, I should say that for your general, everyday criminal background check, they're a lot like a credit check: they go back 7-10 years. Like a credit check, different things will get weighed differently for different people. For some places, passing bad checks can be very bad; other places, violent crimes. Some places, criminal behavior period. The whys and wherefores, we mere jobseekers are not meant to know. (I mean, frickin' SHOPKO???)

I really feel for you; it sucks major ass when this sort of thing comes around to bite you in the ass--you'd think there'd be more warning upfront. But, I guess as far as they're concerned, there's plenty more where you came from, and they're all squeaky clean. Hmph. (If I ever get to be in a hiring position, I'm giving extra points for criminal records)

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that's so unfair! as far as i know, at least in ohio, employers can't look at your juv. record for anything. no one can, they're sealed. once you're 18, your past is erased.

about just 1 DUI? they should look in the mirror. i take cabs almost always when i've had anything to drink (my community also has the highest DUI ticket writing of any community around NE Ohio), but how many people think that a beer or two is ok, and it actually may be above their state's blood alcohol level legality? how many of them have driven somewhat or totally intoxicated, or have a friend who has? while i do take keys away sometimes and make my friends take the cab with me and sleep it off at my house, there are people i club with who do drink and drive. i'm sure it is common.

that isn't an excuse, but just a reflection. in the mirror. they shouldn't judge. they could be the next ones caught with a beer too many when they thought they were fine. it happens. go to a bar and have a few, and you are probably over your state's limit.

NOW for your problem at hand- i'm with the others, i think you should ask your old employer if you can have your position back. claim that you reflected on it and had a change of heart, and really loved your old job and decided you just couldn't change. unless you've told people they're assholes and to take their job to hell, they should be willing to give it back. it saves them the time and trouble of finding someone new and training them. stick to teh story with everyone that you had a change of heart. you don't have to open your closet of skeletons for the world to see.

i think it is stupid that they'd deny you a job over an ancient DUI, especially since it is A. common and B. a long time ago, with a lot of merit in between.

i guess for me, this proves the importance of the cab. even if i get stood up like last week. (note to self- check to bring cell phone and coins, and don't drink more than 4 to be in charge of situation!)

loon

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  • 3 weeks later...

UPDATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It turns out that the police check came back clear !!!!!!!!!!!!! Anything from my teenage years has obviously been sealed / concealed. The drink driving doesn't even show up on there either. Maybe that's not classed as "criminal".

Since I was offered the job subject to a satisfactory police check, which has come back all good and therefore satisfactory, I contacted the company but they say they have already employed someone else! In other words they've really really screwed up here. She did say they might have something else. However, do I want to work for a company that did this to me?! My name's been dragged through the mud, so to speak.

Now I get an email from the company telling me some bullshit that they have not got a copy of the letter I got sent, and that the courts said that the form wasn't filled out correctly and were unable to release any information about me. Now that's such crap lies! How come I got the letter saying my conviction history is clean? It's not like I made a separate request, only one request form was filled out.

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Now I get an email from the company telling me some bullshit that they have not got a copy of the letter I got sent, and that the courts said that the form wasn't filled out correctly and were unable to release any information about me. Now that's such crap lies! How come I got the letter saying my conviction history is clean? It's not like I made a separate request, only one request form was filled out.

OK...wha? The courts "weren't able to release info"? Info about what? If they ran the check, then nothing YOU filled out matters. At least, not to them; they'd get the same info as you, unless the court fucked up, but me, I'm seeing something else here.

However, in any sane world, there's no lawsuit here. It's called "employment at will" and until we move to socialism, employers are free to hire whomever they will, and to my understanding no contracts were signed.

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while it may be employment at will, i think that consulting an atty, because usually a consultation is free, is worthwhile. they're always after money are are very creative in ways to get it. they may be able to see something we don't. we're not lawyers, so we're not creative and sneaky! so, i don't see that it would cause harm. if you have no leg to stand on, then you know it. if you can do anything, then you can go forward. it will help in any event to put your mind at ease.

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Now I get an email from the company telling me some bullshit that they have not got a copy of the letter I got sent, and that the courts said that the form wasn't filled out correctly and were unable to release any information about me. Now that's such crap lies! How come I got the letter saying my conviction history is clean? It's not like I made a separate request, only one request form was filled out.

OK...wha? The courts "weren't able to release info"? Info about what? If they ran the check, then nothing YOU filled out matters. At least, not to them; they'd get the same info as you, unless the court fucked up, but me, I'm seeing something else here.

However, in any sane world, there's no lawsuit here. It's called "employment at will" and until we move to socialism, employers are free to hire whomever they will, and to my understanding no contracts were signed.

I think you misunderstand.

They ran the check, results came back, one copy to me, the other copy was sent to the company. However the company is denying they got any results back (delayed in the mail?). Now they say they want to either see a copy of that same letter I got, or send the application for the police check in again (which will take longer).

Will keep you posted.

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I also have a recent criminal conviction on my record, and I have never disclosed it on any application. I know I won't have a shot at the job (99% of the time) if I did.

My current job had a 20-30 page application when I started. And when the dreaded question popped up, I just checked "No." They never checked.

BTW- I work in a law firm, so go figure.

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I also have a recent criminal conviction on my record, and I have never disclosed it on any application. I know I won't have a shot at the job (99% of the time) if I did.

My current job had a 20-30 page application when I started. And when the dreaded question popped up, I just checked "No." They never checked.

BTW- I work in a law firm, so go figure.

With me I had to sign a release form, to allow them to access any conviction information held about me. In addition to owning up to convictions, on a separate form. I had no idea that stuff from long ago had been concealed, and that the drink driving would not show up either. But at least the good side that's come out of this mess, is that in future, I can legally answer NO if asked if I have any convictions. I would never have known my history was clean, had this not happened.

Thing is, this whole mess has made me fall back into a deep depression, and currently I don't even want to look for another job anymore. I've been totally put off, a big blow to my self esteem. It's like my 2 university degrees don't count for anything. I lost a job that was rightfully mine, because they didn't follow procedures. They held my honesty against me, when in reality my history was clear (concealed). So f*n unfair.

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