LikeMinded Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 I want the smartass smiley back. It is Fous' official smiley. ok done. will be my official smiley until this condition is corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Heh. sorry. It didn't actually look smartass though I got rid of some of the lesser used ones because it was clogging up the works each time the emoticon cache was refreshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praxis Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 I still think we need a crybaby and a willfuckforfree ETA I meant to say a willfuckformeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 I really want to scrap the majority of them and use these guys. They are the only non-ascii emoticons I've ever not hated http://kebawe.com/smellies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 um, but they are animated ... isn't that a no-no? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease can we keep and pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 They are like like 5 years out of date. Emoticons are a huge resource drain. It's the totaly number of them that's a problem, not the complexity of the images. A ton of simple ones is a huge waste. If we're going to have lots, we might as well have lots of flashy ones. I worked in adaptive technology (technological solutions for the disabled) for years. The standard solution for individuals who have problems with web animations is to impement the fix on the client end and not the server end. Turning off gif animations in a browser in trivial and anyone who has problems with them knows this. I'll leave it up to you to speculate as to why that policy was there in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resonance Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 they have a pirate smiley. omg. and a batman smiley! I would like it better if they were still too, though. I like to leave animated gifs on for other things (like so I don't miss the joke in lj usericons), but I find them really distracting in a forum environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifezilla Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 If you are creative, you can post icons and other images from other sites using the IMG code (see BB Code Help to the left when you hit REPLY) In fact, I think I found some for the upcoming holiday :::warning...animated::: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 i do like the batman smilie, specially in time for halloweeeeen heheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeMinded Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 If you are creative, you can post icons and other images from other sites using the IMG code (see BB Code Help to the left when you hit REPLY) I personally wouldn't recommend that, since many sites have the feature ("image linking") disabled. In any event, it steals (a small amount of) bandwidth from the donor site's server. Now, as to comparing an animated smiley to two separate smileys, most animated smileys have 2-3 frames of animation. GIF image compression, the thing these smileys (animated and otherwise) are saved as, partially integrates all of the frames, leaving the rest of the interpretation to your browser/other image viewer. Most of the time, the frames are all similar, and GIF compression will just say "repeat that part of frame 1, and change these parts of it" to your browser. Given that GIF is a 15+ year old standard, all web browsers and graphic editors know how to interpret GIFs. This means that a 3 frame animated smiley GIF is a hell of a lot smaller (in terms of KB) than 2 separate smiley GIFs. And I'll give y'all more detail so I can create more of a headache (that's one of my jobs on CB, anyways)... The following is just an example, I pulled the numbers out of my ass... much like I tend to pull most other 'facts' out as well... The smartass smiley is 800 bytes, so having it on the server takes 800 bytes of bandwidth each time a CBer's browser loads it. This other smiley is animated. The first frame is 800 bytes, the second frame is only 50 bytes different than the first, and the third frame 70 bytes different. The instructions of "change these parts of frame N" take up 60 bytes per step (3 frames = 2 steps, so 120 bytes total). So, putting the smartass smiley back takes 800 bytes. Animating another existing smiley, on the other hand, will give you in addition 50 + 70 + 120 = 240 bytes. So, animating an existing smiley gives less of a bandwidth problem than adding a whole new smiley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifezilla Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 I personally wouldn't recommend that, since many sites have the feature ("image linking") disabled. True..that is why I searched specifically for sites that let you link. So there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeMinded Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 I personally wouldn't recommend that, since many sites have the feature ("image linking") disabled. True..that is why I searched specifically for sites that let you link. So there If any of them have a smartass smiley, let me know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz-pot Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Ah - remember the good old low-tech days when occasionally somebody might put : and either ) or ( together and have done with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifezilla Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Here are a few I posted on ImageShack....which specifically sets images up to be shared and used. http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/133/smartass2ya8.gif http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6883/smileysmartasscb9.gif http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5702/smartassee9.gif Then there is this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 hf: The problem isn't bandwidth. It's that they are database resident. When the emoticon cache is recreated every twelve hours it can take several minutes and gum up the works. It's the total number that's the problem. The default IPB configuration is something like 12 emoticons per theme. boz: I'm of the opinion that the graphics need to be damn good to be better than :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeMinded Posted October 10, 2006 Author Share Posted October 10, 2006 hf: The problem isn't bandwidth. It's that they are database resident. When the emoticon cache is recreated every twelve hours it can take several minutes and gum up the works. It's the total number that's the problem. The default IPB configuration is something like 12 emoticons per theme. boz: I'm of the opinion that the graphics need to be damn good to be better than :-) Why IPB decided to program this thing to require an emoticon cache recreation every 12 hours, I don't know. Or for that matter, just not cache all the emoticons at once and do X number per hour. And as far as liking good graphics, I see your taste is a lot more sophisticated than that of the admins at Fark.com. Their forum software (an original done by the founder) was first written in 1997 and has changed little since. No built-in smileys and formatting is done with traditional HTML (not that I mind that part). Also, once you post something, you can't edit it and take back your words. Whether this is good or not, is up to you. (yay) Wifey-- Thanks for the smartasses. That last one is priceless... if (cynically, when) they ever find out "it's too late", I'm not seeing a huge malpractice suit ahead... But one thing that's for sure is that the doctors involved WILL get a shitload of verbal abuse from me. (yay) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 hf: The problem isn't bandwidth. It's that they are database resident. When the emoticon cache is recreated every twelve hours it can take several minutes and gum up the works. It's the total number that's the problem. The default IPB configuration is something like 12 emoticons per theme. boz: I'm of the opinion that the graphics need to be damn good to be better than :-) Why IPB decided to program this thing to require an emoticon cache recreation every 12 hours, I don't know. Or for that matter, just not cache all the emoticons at once and do X number per hour. And as far as liking good graphics, I see your taste is a lot more sophisticated than that of the admins at Fark.com. Their forum software (an original done by the founder) was first written in 1997 and has changed little since. No built-in smileys and formatting is done with traditional HTML (not that I mind that part). Also, once you post something, you can't edit it and take back your words. Whether this is good or not, is up to you. (yay) Wifey-- Thanks for the smartasses. That last one is priceless... if (cynically, when) they ever find out "it's too late", I'm not seeing a huge malpractice suit ahead... But one thing that's for sure is that the doctors involved WILL get a shitload of verbal abuse from me. (yay) Actually, I have it set to be recached ever 12 hours. It keeps post load times saner. Perforence considerations tend to take consideration over aesthetic ones. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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