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.. in that i feel unhinged. i feel like something bad is going to happen. i plummeted in mood last night, and things are taking a razor's edge sharpness in quality, my feelings hurt easily and my experience of being visible (corporeal), intolerable. i want to disappear. i wish i were invisible.

i went down to 1.25mg zyprexa every day, and i've stopped here. i am supposed to go down to 1.25mg every other day (i'm splitting the tablets) and then to every third day and then off. i was supposed to do this over a period of a few days at each dose, but stop if i got "hyper"

but as with when i went off seroquel, which i was on for sleep, i found that quitting made the 'noise' go up. i feel more obsessive. i feel jumpier. i feel less able to deal with people. i don't want to go out in the world. i don't want to know that i exist. being sucks.

qualifier: i think i'm having PMS and this usually means increased wackiness.

it would seem clear that i should stay on the zyprexa. maybe?

but it's not clear to me.

i'm going to try going without the 1/2 tablet tonight and see how i'm doing tomorrow.

shit. i'm late for therapy now.

pj

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PJ, I've read of people unable to get off that last tiny dose of Zyprexa, so I'd say you're not alone. I dropped from 10 to 5mg and just felt edgy all the time, like I was on the verge of losing it. I quit cold turkey to try to lose some weight, and immediately couldn't sleep, racing thoughts etc etc. So I'm taking amitryptiline (I had quite a stash left over from last year) so I can at least sleep, but I still feel shitty.

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Yeah. Trust your gut.

Zyprexa really can suck ass and in a lot of cases other APs do the same thing and suck less, but the stuff it treats can be flat out dangerous to leave unchecked.

I don't understand why it's still used as early as it is as often as it is in situations that don't involve psychosis. Giving it to you while you're trying to go back to grad school and be more functional was stupid. At the same time, it sounds like you need more than an SSRI.

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qualifier: i think i'm having PMS and this usually means increased wackiness.

it would seem clear that i should stay on the zyprexa. maybe?

but it's not clear to me.

i'm going to try going without the 1/2 tablet tonight and see how i'm doing tomorrow.

If you think that this is a hard time for you to be going off it, then I think you should wait. You can stay where your at right now, and let the PMS ride itself out before going any lower. Then figure it out from there.

I'm no doc or anything & haven't gone off Zyprexa (in fact I'm about to go on it), but as long as being on it isn't physically harming you, then there's no reason to not slow it down a bit if you need to..

That said...

If skipping the dose doesn't make things worse, and you feel you can handle it.. go ahead and stop it. More power to ya! ;)

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I went down to a 1/3 of a half of a 5 mg tablet for a couple weeks before going off, if that makes any sense. It's less than 1.25 in any case. Then surprisingly when I stopped that nothing happened. The last time I went off Zyprexa the way you're "supposed" to from 5 mg to 2.5 for 5-6 days then off. It was 8-10 weeks of withdrawal from hell. So if you're good at cutting the tablets, you might want to try it. You may end up wasting some and it's obviously not very exact.

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i've decided tonight to try going without the 1.25mg. and do every other day. i see my doctor on thursday (so really i'm only missing one dose in the time til i see him), and so i'll at least be able to tell him how i felt tomorrow (without the med).

i might actually be getting sleepy.

hopefully i won't sleep in. my parents are having a meeting in the kitchen at 11. so i need to eat breakfast before then.

thanks for all the input. wow.

depending on how it goes, i will consider further breaking down my 2.5mg tablets.

pj

eta: yes, i'm basically ignoring 'maybe i need something like this'... but i'm not really. i mean, i'm trying to follow the plan, and we'll see how it goes.

i feel on edge.

i'm fully prepared to acknowledge that all i'm feeling may not be withdrawal-related.

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well i was climbing the sheets last night. too many thoughts.

i do not feel like i slept. pretty vivid dreams.

all in all i think i dealt with it all fairly well.

especially when i was climbing the sheets and flashy, colourful, cheerful images of ;) slicing my wrists and bleeding all over the carpet kept going through my head.

tonight, 1.25mg. thank fuck.

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