blackbird Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Oh my goodness! I am so sorry for the amount of rambling and dumping I have done on you guys the past few days but I am a desperate woman. The Zyprexa works really well for my psychosis but it has given me the most enormous fucking appetite known to man. I want to eat eat eat all around me from the moment I get up to the moment I go to bed. When I fall asleep, my only dreams are of food. My appetite cannot be satisfied - it's like a switch has gone off in my brain, my bulimia is completely out of control and all I can think about is food - how to smuggle it into the house, how to conceal how much I am eating, purging in secret. It is absolute agony, I spend all day in thrall to food when I should be studying or planning my career. I went to the GP and she said "exercise some self-control", my p-doc said "stick a picture of yourself when you were thin on the side of the refrigerator" but I am genuinely 100% fucking famished all the time - it's all I can think about! I've had enough of Zyprexa - I can't live this way anymore, I am going to taper myself off the damn stuff, fuck it, psychosis would be easier to live with than this shit, I'll maybe go back on abilify and try to cope being semi-psychotic. I'm only adding to my mother's problems with this bulimia crap, she is going to kick me out of the house and none of my sisters will take me in. I pulled myself together with alcoholism but I can't seem to pull myself together as far as food is concerned. Besides thinking about food 24/7 I also yearn to overdose - not particularly kill myself but lose a couple of days away from this misery. I don't know what the purpose of this rant is, all I know is I am at my wit's end and barely holding it together. blackbird x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweii Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm sorry things suck. I gained 5 kg in two weeks from Zyprexa. I know it's not about "self discipline", it's fucking impossible to not think about food and you never feel full. But I do think you have some unexplored options with other antipsychotics. There's a whole bunch of them. And not all the old school ones are as scary as one may think. Here's a list of all of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotics You shouldn't settle for semi-psychotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifezilla Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 If the zyprexa is really working, maybe you might want to give this a try instead of quitting... http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=5968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Thanks for your understanding Helena, it really means a lot to me. I can't take prolactin-raising drugs like Haldol, Solian and Risperdal because early menopause and severe osteoporosis (and I mean severe, my mother has the bones of a 90 year old woman and is registered disabled due to breaking her back in 4 different places) run in my family and I entered a premature menopause on Haldol. Abilify only half works, Seroquel gave me severe akathisia and made me want to eat as well. I guess I could try something like Stelazine? As far as I can tell it isn't known for weight gain. Clozapine is another option but it makes you eat all around you too. I can't allow my life to be wasted like this, as far as I can see, being psychotic would be less debilitating, at least when I was psychotic, I was holding down a full time job. Thanks for the wikipedia link, Helena blackbird x wifezilla, I just saw your reply, I am taking hoodia at the moment but it hasn't decreased my appetite in the slightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifezilla Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 What dosage? 500mg doesn't do shit for me. At 1500mg I actually forget to eat. So that means 3 patches instead of 1, but it is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loon-A-TiK Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 do you want all food, or is your desire limited to sweets? all i wanted was sugary foods and sweets. i was the dairy queen maven! all i could think about was more and more treats. what got me out of it was stopping zyperxa and weight watchers. for awhile i was on zyprexa and doing weight watchers at the same time, and i was trying my best to follow the program. i just made sure my sweets fit into the points. i maintained my weight but didn't lose weight. i lost weight when i quit the zyprexa. i'm not sure that i have an answer. i didn't find one, except in risperdal. it makes me lactate a bit, but i've done enough research on the effects of lactation and have decided to risk it. i take it anyway, and because of symmetrel hardly lactate at all (the risperdal rep actually told my pdoc about that and it seems to work- wh en i remember to take the stuff, since it is fairly new in my cocktail). does the dose of risperdal matter, or are you even willing to consider it? i'm just bringing it up because it is the one drug that has helped me and not made my appetite change. i hope i've helped at least somewhat- loon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted December 5, 2006 Author Share Posted December 5, 2006 I went to my GP today (not the locum who said 'exercise self-control') and we agreed that I should try the Zyprexa dissolvable tablets before doing anything too radical. If this doesn't work then I can cross taper over to abilify and even take 15mgs of abilify with 5 mgs of Zyprexa to keep me stable (which the Zyprexa does so well). Wifezilla, I just ordered 700mgs tablets of pure Hoodia from a reputable supplier. I checked, the dose I am currently taking is 250mgs which might be far too small. I'll give it a whirl at a higher dose, maybe take 2 tablets a day. thanks again folks! blackbird x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unregistered Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 What pisses me off about Zyprexa is that I don't have a huge appetite, and I really don't have any cravings apart from a very, very occasional sweet tooth. But I still can't lose any weight, even with massive amounts of gym work. And what really, really pisses me off is that I love the Zyprexa soooo much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted December 5, 2006 Author Share Posted December 5, 2006 Unregistered Posted Today, 12:40 PM What pisses me off about Zyprexa is that I don't have a huge appetite, and I really don't have any cravings apart from a very, very occasional sweet tooth. But I still can't lose any weight, even with massive amounts of gym work. And what really, really pisses me off is that I love the Zyprexa soooo much... Between a rock and a hard place I tells ya! Isn't the withdrawal for Zyprexa meant to be especially harsh? If the hoodia superstrength tablets and velotabs don't work, it's definitely back to good ol' dependable Abilify. I cannot return to my days of porkdom, I've worked too hard to get the weight off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifezilla Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 My hubby has always done the zyprexa prn, so I don't know about withdrawl. He never seemed to have any issues. I think the longest he has ever been on it continuously is 2 months. Now he only uses it when the mania bug starts to rear its ugly head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unregistered Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Yeah, I've stopped and started. The worst it's done to me when I quit is screw up my sleep and mak eme feel very, very edgy. I've been able to partially fix those with an old supply of amitriptyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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