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if you were only to try one typical ap to quiet and focus mind,


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just wanted to know because i am only willing to give typicals one chance. scared.

know there are different classes. one better? less chance of td?

mostly just need to stop brain from thinking so much, yet retain the ability to think.

pdoc says navane.

help!!! no idea! been here before, but scared of s es. finally time to make that decision to try one.

thank you,

kathy

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i can't talk about the typical antipsychotics except for haldol, because i've never taken them. i've only taken the atypicals.

for me, seroquel made me dopey and gave me BAD side effects, geodon made me feel homocidal, abilify put me into a mixed state, and now i take risperdal. i control the lactation with symmetrel.

everyone is different though, and you won't know until you try. they're powerful drugs, true, but you won't know what one is right for you unless you try them. you may get lucky and like the first one you try. but do give it a chance and check out more than just one.

so if i had to vote for one atypical (since i've tried them all except for clozoril), i'd pick risperdal. it has been the cleanest for me and my only side effect is lactation, and that has been managed.

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Just wondering why you're focusing on typicals v. atypicals?

I take Seroquel (atypical) and it has really helped "busybrain." It also creates carb cravings and can cause weight gain, but they all have some freaky side effect. Chromium picolinate helps a lot with the carb cravings.... just my personal experience.

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oops! guess i forgot to say why! here goes:

zyprexa - weight gain, zombie

abilify - dead brain, eps

geodon - just plain horrible!

seroquel - sleep way too much, don't know about brain

risperdal - can talk, brain still too busy. higher doses, dead brain

guess i could try seroquel again, but will only try once i drop this weight, don't want to go there again.

so, i think that leaves the typicals.

pdoc says different class, so work differently.

thank you!

kathy

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I've always found that there is a tradeoff with APs. When taking them I generally try to take a dose where my OCD symptoms are just barely tolerable. At higher doses they kick it in the ass, but the cognitive side effects are too severe. I've given up on feeling good. Feeling tolerable is an acceptable outcome.

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  • 9 months later...

I took navane- and actually liked it for the calming effect. I only needed it for a short period, and it reset my brain. I had a hard time with the start up of meds at that time (navane + depakote and paxil), but 3 days later I was as good as new. The meds actually really helped me at that time in my life- I was in a suicidal mixed state when I needed it.

I took it about 12 years ago

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I've always found that there is a tradeoff with APs.

I agree with VE. I also believe in the old saying "you don't get somethin' for nothin'".

With Zyprexa I have found that if I keep my dose at or below 10mg, I'm ok in the morning. The days I have to take more leaves me foggy and unsteady and my appetite and therefore weight gain goes way up.

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Navane is not bad. Stelazine is also quite tolerable. I assume you are talking about very low doses.

Here's the YMMV part (anecdata only):

Having tried low doses of Navane, Stelazine, Prolixin, Haldol, and Trilafon to manage manic/mixed states, I settled on the perphenazine because it is not especially anxiolytic, and I had some bruxism with the Prolixin. Anxiety is not really one of my major features, so I do not need that calming effect.

Stelazine and Navane are pretty damn anxiolytic.

They are all somewhat sedating initially, but the effect wears off rapidly, IME.

Not one of them was 1/10 as helpful with the brain squirrels as lithium has been. But they do help suppress breakthrough squirrels very effectively and keep things from winding up and getting out of hand.

Zyprexa is fabulous brain glue for everyone on the planet but me, apparently; it's a sedative, but I do not get the sense of calm and quiet that I get when the lithium deficiency is resolved.

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