Guest spiderman Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I need something to take with my cymbalta. I read the post people replied to and will start taking that at night. But I sleep like poop and want to sleep better. I was using klonopin and still do use it but it doesn't get you to that sleep like ambien does. The problem with ambien is long term use. Anyone else have ideas? Someone I know took seroquel for lack of getting to sleep and staying asleep, but she hates it. It leaves her hungover and stuff. She still isn't getting to sleep at night only during the day. They also gave her amitryptiline and klonopin 1mg - of course at different trials. The klonopin didnt knock her out and the amitript left her body aching and stuff. She has MS also. I know lots of people use trazadone but it doesn't sound good for me given the hangover and time left in the body as I suffer from being tired during the day already. any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Have you had a sleep study done by any chance? You can't estimate what your side effects will be based on what other people have experienced. Rozerom is being marketed on it's lack of side effects and addiction potential. It didn't do much for me. Long term, your best bet would be to figure out why you have trouble sleeping and fix that. Have you tried melotonin? Example: Melatonin 3 Mg 120 Caps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I've been on Ambien for 4 years. It's not "FDA approved" for long term use, but that doesn't mean much. Except to some insurance companies (not mine, fortunately). Tolerance is not an issue for most people (I've pretty much always been on 10 mg, sometimes as little as 5 mg). That said... it's not the best long-term (or short-term, IMO) option. Though I believe Ambien CR is FDA approved for long-term use (and I find it to be much gentler than that the immediate release formula). Benzos (including Klonopin) are definitely not a good solution at all. Tolerance (not to mention dependence) develop quickly. As VE mentions, "your mileage may vary," so don't write off any med based solely on what someone else has experienced. Everyone reacts differently... especially depending on what other meds you are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2utopian2 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I have been taking Ambien 10mg. for the last 10 years; every single day. It still works great and I have been unaware of any side affects. The great thing about Ambien is that it metabolizes in 4-5 hours; so it is out of your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maceo Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 I have been taking Ambien 10mg. for the last 10 years; every single day. It still works great and I have been unaware of any side affects. The great thing about Ambien is that it metabolizes in 4-5 hours; so it is out of your system. I've got to get this fucking Ambien shit! Is it more powerful than Restoril? Does it actually force you to go to sleep or just make you tired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweii Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nozinan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I take Restoril along with Klonopin and my Cymbalta at night and I sleep pretty well, except when the cat intentionally wakes me up for a 3 AM breakfast. Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maceo Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Nozinan? What's that? I've never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oohchessie Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 i take anywhere between 50mg-100mg of seroquel and 15mg-30mg of restoril, if i take the restoril alone it really does nothing, but if i take too much seroquel it knocks me out and does give me a sleep hangover. but if i take a little of both it works pretty well for me.. the problem is ACTUALLY taking them because sometimes i hate sleep!! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borzage Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I have been taking Ambien 10mg. for the last 10 years; every single day. It still works great and I have been unaware of any side affects. The great thing about Ambien is that it metabolizes in 4-5 hours; so it is out of your system. I've got to get this fucking Ambien shit! Is it more powerful than Restoril? Does it actually force you to go to sleep or just make you tired? Just because someone on an internet message board says they had no side effects with a drug doesn't mean it doesn't cause side effects. Ambien is linked to some severe side effects. You might want to do some more research before you make up your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweii Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Nozinan? What's that? I've never heard of it. Actually, can I take that back? Not really a "clean" med, and probably best used as a last resort. It's an old school AP, really knocks you out and could probably give you a hangover. I haven't taken it myself, but a friend is on it. She sleeps like a baby and it's hard to wake her up, but once she's out of bed she doesn't seem to have any problems. It can cause weight gain, but not as bad as some other meds. Oh, and melatonin makes me horribly depressed if I take it for more than one night. But it works great for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeMinded Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Oh, and melatonin makes me horribly depressed if I take it for more than one night. But it works great for some people. ooooh... I thought I was the only one who got depressed on melatonin. I also got disastrously vivid dreams on it, and no restful sleep. I'm sticking to my Lunesta.... The metallic taste lets you know it's working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloGirl66 Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 The metallic taste lets you know it's working! If only that were true for me. Now I just get the taste but not the sleep - blech! I want to kill that frakking butterfly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianebea Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 I need something to take with my cymbalta. I read the post people replied to and will start taking that at night. But I sleep like poop and want to sleep better. I was using klonopin and still do use it but it doesn't get you to that sleep like ambien does. The problem with ambien is long term use. Anyone else have ideas? Someone I know took seroquel for lack of getting to sleep and staying asleep, but she hates it. It leaves her hungover and stuff. She still isn't getting to sleep at night only during the day. They also gave her amitryptiline and klonopin 1mg - of course at different trials. The klonopin didnt knock her out and the amitript left her body aching and stuff. She has MS also. I know lots of people use trazadone but it doesn't sound good for me given the hangover and time left in the body as I suffer from being tired during the day already. any ideas? I'm replying very late to this, but fwiw, I take 100 mg of traz and have no hangover---sometimes I even add 0.5 mg of xanax. I also take Detrol LA 4 mg, Topa 100 mg at night, so I'm pretty well medicated even without the traz. I would at least give it a try---it's the only drug that's really helped me sleep. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalcase Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Me too! Trazadone worked way better for me then anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscat Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Me too! Trazadone worked way better for me then anything else. Trazodone worked well for me too in the past. Going to ask my NP to prescribe some on my next visit. Valerian works OK too if you want to go the herbal route, although it doesnt knock me out for the entire night. I would stay AWAY from benzos unless you are very agitated. Miss. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakko926 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 as many others, trazadone worked well for me until I bottomed out on it. Now, I take 30 mg Restoril & 1-2 .5mg Klonopin or sometimes I will just pop about 4 1mg ativan good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligeof Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 I take Restoril along with Klonopin and my Cymbalta at night and I sleep pretty well, except when the cat intentionally wakes me up for a 3 AM breakfast. Tommy I'm taking both Restoril (generic...) and Cymbalta - but I can't manage to stay asleep. I mix Cymbalta (30mg) with Lexapro (10mg) because the Cymbalta alone made me really anxious. I actually take the Cymbalta in the morning and the Lex at night. Have you had any issues with the Cymbalta making you feel jittery or anxious? I wonder if I shouldn't start taking it at night as well?? The Restoril doesn't help me either - but I haven't tried mixing with Klonopin (also didn't help me). aligeof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitriol Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Imovane (Zopiclone) is the best I ever tried. Not sure if it is safe to use with Cymbalta. Better ask to your Pdoc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.mcmurphy Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 ambien 10's for better than a year. once or twice has there been a sleepwalk episode. still taking same dose but have tried to half it now and again. dependency is far better than the alternative for this old loon. dependency and addiction are, for me, not alike. depend on eye drops to keep glaucoma at bay. have been addicted to many chems and don't want to go there again. ambien does not jam me up when i have to rise early. wish that i could find reason to do that daily. depression sucks flies off walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloGirl66 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 ambien 10's for better than a year. once or twice has there been a sleepwalk episode. still taking same dose but have tried to half it now and again. dependency is far better than the alternative for this old loon. dependency and addiction are, for me, not alike. depend on eye drops to keep glaucoma at bay. have been addicted to many chems and don't want to go there again. ambien does not jam me up when i have to rise early. wish that i could find reason to do that daily. depression sucks flies off walls. As long as it still works for you, more power to ya. Unfortunately I became tolerant to Ambien and the 10's didn't help me sleep anymore so I had to start searching for alternatives. Imovane (Zopiclone) is the best I ever tried. Not sure if it is safe to use with Cymbalta. Better ask to your Pdoc. Just for informations sake, Imovane is not available in the US, Lunesta is the closest thing to it (eszopiclone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligeof Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Imovane (Zopiclone) is the best I ever tried. Not sure if it is safe to use with Cymbalta. Better ask to your Pdoc. Is that Lunesta? I've tried that, Ambien, Ambien CR, trazadone, Roserim, Klonipin, Xanax, Mirapex and Requip (for RLS), and now Restoril. So far - nothing keeps me asleep. I've had several sleep studies and don't have apnea - just slight RLS. I don't spend much time in deep sleep and don't think I even reach Delta sleep. I don't know what else to try and am really frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloGirl66 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Imovane (Zopiclone) is the best I ever tried. Not sure if it is safe to use with Cymbalta. Better ask to your Pdoc. Is that Lunesta? I've tried that, Ambien, Ambien CR, trazadone, Roserim, Klonipin, Xanax, Mirapex and Requip (for RLS), and now Restoril. So far - nothing keeps me asleep. I've had several sleep studies and don't have apnea - just slight RLS. I don't spend much time in deep sleep and don't think I even reach Delta sleep. I don't know what else to try and am really frustrated. Not exactly. Lunesta (eszopiclone) is an isomer of Imovane (zopiclone). I guess you could call them cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxMidnitexX Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Imovane (Zopiclone) is the best I ever tried. Not sure if it is safe to use with Cymbalta. Better ask to your Pdoc. Got to agree, Imovane the best I've had, tho not recommended for long term use, my doctor has had me on them for years now. They are very easy to abuse tho. withdrawel from them sucks, but least the stuff will drop you to sleep. Sometimes in your chair where you sit. Bad is still only get 4 to 5 hours sleep with them, and gotta love that nasty metallic taste the mornin after. Still perfect sleep aid in my opinion, without them i would never sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiet storm Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Ambien leaves me groggy and depressed the next day. I used to take 50mg trazodone whne I was on lexapro and it worked....most of the time. I tried to go up to 100mg once and had the absolute worst hangover in my life the next day. I might as well have drank a bottle of Jack Daniels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loon-A-TiK Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 wine is the best sleep med! KIDDING i like ambien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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