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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story...rim_truth/print

The war in Iraq isn't over yet, but -- surge or no surge -- the United States has already lost. That's the grim consensus of a panel of experts assembled by Rolling Stone to assess the future of Iraq. "Even if we had a million men to go in, it's too late now," says retired four-star Gen. Tony McPeak, who served on the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Gulf War. "Humpty Dumpty can't be put back together again."

BEST-CASE SCENARIO

CIVIL WAR IN IRAQ AND A STRONGER AL QAEDA

MOST LIKELY SCENARIO

YEARS OF ETHNIC CLEANSING AND WAR WITH IRAN

WORST-CASE SCENARIO

WORLD WAR III

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The ugly truth is that Bush et al have done so much damage in just about every area you can think of (let alone the war and coming war) that we may never be able to fix it. And it has nothing to do with terrorists. The "terrorists" may be our own government.

I heard Roseanne Barr say yesterday "I hope the people that fix the elections let a democrat win this time."

Bleeze

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