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i suspect i have schizotypal; however, it is not officially diagnosed yet. should i get this done? is it worthwhile?

could getting the dx actually help me get the treatment i need? or, will it just stigmatize me even further (in the eyes of the insurance company, etc.), and do me no good because they can't really treat personality disorders?

could it work for me, getting me some solid evidence for the disability accomodations i've been needing for a while?

would you get it diagnosed?

I guess it depends on a few factors:

- are you currently seeing a treating psychiatrist and/or psychologist?

- are you currently dxed with something else

- are you currently taking medication or other treatment for a condition?

If the answer is no to the above questions then I would recommend getting a diagnosis and further help asap.

If the answer is yes then you need to weigh up the honesty factor with your dr. It will be difficult for him/her to help you if you arent being completely honest about your symptoms.

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I cant see any harm in telling your therapist about these symptoms. At the very least you will get an objective view which may help you.

The therapist/patient relationship can be a delicate one, but honesty is really important in my opinion.

Also there may be medication out there that is safe for you to take. Dont completely discount this option until you have explored all the possibilities.

Your therapist may be able to refer you to a decent psychiatrist.

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mate, carefull with psic meds, they can change your personallity, my advice is deal with it

i took one acid eight years ago and it triggered my schizofrenia, leaving drugs was almost worse, i didn't have a group of friends anymore, i didn't have drugs anymore, i and kept tripping the same way or worse cause i hadn't the good feelings anymore, i've got in deep depression and anger i could not shut up the voices and it got worse until suicidal attempts, i couldn't get it anymore, i slowly started to accept them now i live and deal with them with things i use, body positions and actions, everyday is a new day and you have to deal with the flows of energy to keep a same line of conversation, otherwise you can go mad,is not easy, you can

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Ol,

I don't think that your therapist is patronizing you at all. Depression and stress are well known factors causing hallucinations. I have hallucinations and am no longer on meds to treat them, my therapist helps me come up with managing and interpreting my voices and hallucinations so they do not effect my life in a negative way. Maybe yours can help you do this too? Bear n mind your natural distrust of people, maybe your therapist intentions are good? Explaining a problem isn't always an attempt to explain it away, though I see how it might feel like that.

i don't even know, anymore- i really do think they're all patronizing me, utterly unhelpful, out to swindle my money and coerce me onto meds i can't tolerate, etc. i don't even know if this is "paranoid", as i've occasionally been called, or realistic, given all the truly abusive and neglectful experiences i've had as a low-income patient in the psych system. i am not absolutely antipsychiatry; but i question a lot of the way it gets practiced...

this therapist really does seem to have done a bait-and-switch trick with me, though- i got her through the oc foundation, and she claimed to be an ocd specialist trained in cbt/exrp- yet, after two months with her, it has totally devolved into stereotypical "what's new this week? and how does that make you feeeel?" uselessness, without one single structured cbt exercise. if i wanted a typical moonbatty "talk about it and cry" psychotherapist, i could've gone to a zillion other places, closer to home and cheaper.

i guess it's no matter, though- in order to appeal my disability denial (and, yeah, i have been forced to change my tune on collecting disability, now that i've gotten this ill :/), i have to quit her and go to the public outpatient clinic in my region from july on, anyway. maybe i'll luck out, this time.

thanks for the input, by the way!

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Ol,

I don't think that your therapist is patronizing you at all. Depression and stress are well known factors causing hallucinations. I have hallucinations and am no longer on meds to treat them, my therapist helps me come up with managing and interpreting my voices and hallucinations so they do not effect my life in a negative way. Maybe yours can help you do this too? Bear n mind your natural distrust of people, maybe your therapist intentions are good? Explaining a problem isn't always an attempt to explain it away, though I see how it might feel like that.

You're also in the UK where the mental health care system is ten years behind the rest of the world. It's pretty well accepted that psyhcotic phenomena do kindle and get worse if left untreated. The fact that you are expeiencing psychosis means there is brain damage going on.

Side effects can be managed. Brain damage can't.

It's a trial and error process to find a combo you can stand. I've been through somthing like 40 and they all sucked their own unique brand of ass. Medications with better side effects will come out over time. If you put up with shitty side effects now, you might be able to take somthing in 20 years that will let you have full use of your brain with no side effects. If you don't take anything there is a good chance you'll be in a residentail treatment facility in 20 years.

If you ever want to have a normal life, you absolutely must treat all psychotic symptoms. I'm sure diabetics hate taking their insulin.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?c...p;dopt=Abstract

http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/001611.html

http://neurocritic.blogspot.com/2007/04/en...us-more-on.html

olmedina, whatever side effects you have, they can likely be worked around.

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In my opinion, I dont see the hurt in tellin your therapist (whoever you are seeing). It'll give you the chance to first talk about the scenarios before you actually get diagnosed.

A diagnosis can be helpful. But the right diagnosis can do wonders. Sounds like you're not sure? And others have pointed out depression, and anxiety, and other PD's.

I'd talk to a professional.

Goodluck to you. Best wishes.

Twitch

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Side effects can be managed.

olmedina, whatever side effects you have, they can likely be worked around.

...except that my problems are beyond mere "side effects"- dopaminergic drugs have previously left me on the verge of inheriting the early-onset parkinson's disease in my genetic background. i'm absolutely blessed that the damage was reversed in time. like those patients who suffered neuroleptic malignant syndrome, i am absolutely contraindicated from antipsychotic medications, even with cogentin or l-dopa.

thanks for the input, though...appreciated.

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thanks! i actually already told her, at my last appointment. she wasn't foo fussed. i'm going to take her advice and use cbt. she said that it gets less scary as you learn to rationalize it.

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