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I had two breakdowns in six years and ended up in hospital for almost three months on both occasions. Ater the second breakdown I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2. Then I realised that I was never a normal person. I have always had major depression and this is like most of you know followed by eating disorders - yes, I eat and purge almost at least 6 times a day.... I push people away from me especially men - I suppose I have always known that I was sick. I so desperately want to get better but I have a question to ask all of you. CAN SOMEONE WITH BIPOLAR EVER BE A NORMAL PERSON? ;)

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By "normal" I think you mean "functioning", as in being able to have a meaningful life with good relationships.

Well, of course you can. I hope you see that this board is full of people managing their Bipolar and depression and living full lives. It takes a thorough understanding of the illness, and the things you need to do to manage it.

You should be in therapy for the eating disorder. I would make it your priority to get over that, while you learn the things you need to do to avoid moodswings and deal with triggers when they come up. Once you are stable, then you can focus on relationships.

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You should be in therapy for the eating disorder. I would make it your priority to get over that, while you learn the things you need to do to avoid moodswings and deal with triggers when they come up. Once you are stable, then you can focus on relationships.

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believe,

I responded to your post because i have recovered from c/o, anorexia and bulimia. One eating disorder just gave way to another one, and I honestly could not stop the binge-purge cycle to save my life. I sought out the help of an experienced therapist, and she helped me to get over it, entirely.

If your pdoc says she is unable to take away your eating disorder, then that person is unqualified to help you. A therapist who has experience treating eating disorders (using cognitive behavioral therapy) will help you to see how you use food to deal with stress, to recognize your triggers, and to let go of unrealistic expectations for your body. Ideally, the therapist will teach you constructive ways to deal with stress.

MG

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I don't think I'll ever feel normal. In honesty, I think I will be able to function in the future, but functioning is not quite life. I function now. I do what I do, fulfill my duties, but I am miserable in the process. I'm at a low point right now, so my outlook isn't very positive. I guess only the individual can answer what you have asked as you know yourself better than anyone. As for me, I can't really see too far into the future. Life is unpredictable, this I learned. So I think as long as you have hope and dedication, you can overcome this. Like the previous poster said, these members are living proof. Sorry for the negativity, its one of those bad habits...Good luck!

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believe,

I responded to your post because i have recovered from c/o, anorexia and bulimia. One eating disorder just gave way to another one, and I honestly could not stop the binge-purge cycle to save my life. I sought out the help of an experienced therapist, and she helped me to get over it, entirely.

If your pdoc says she is unable to take away your eating disorder, then that person is unqualified to help you. A therapist who has experience treating eating disorders (using cognitive behavioral therapy) will help you to see how you use food to deal with stress, to recognize your triggers, and to let go of unrealistic expectations for your body. Ideally, the therapist will teach you constructive ways to deal with stress.

MG

MG

I really appreciate your advise and I am going to go and look for additional help with my eating disorder because it is really eating away at my life at the moment. My pdoc did not say she could not help me but I found myself lying to her about it and saying that it is better when in actually fact it got worse.

Before I knew I had bipolar I knew I was different - I responded differently to stressful situations and I was never really good at the social thing. Everything was always an issue and life was never good for me because I had to do everything absolutely perfectly right - yes, you can call it perfectionist. Looking back I know I was never a normal person. Yes, I am functioning at the moment and I am doing well at work (was employee of the month) and are stable on my meds and at least I know what is wrong with me - but just like Stalin I feel like I will never really be a normal person - ;)

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You might want to have a look at one of the many lists of famous people with bipolar disorder that are floating around the net

http://www.mental-health-today.com/bp/famous_people.htm

Actors & Actresses

Ned Beatty

Maurice Bernard, soap opera

Jeremy Brett

Jim Carey

Lisa Nicole Carson

Rosemary Clooney, singer

Lindsay Crosby

Eric Douglas

Robert Downey Jr.

Patty Duke

Carrie Fisher

Connie Francis, singer and actress

Shecky Greene, comedian

Linda Hamilton

Moss Hart, actor, director, playright

Mariette Hartley

Margot Kidder

Vivien Leigh

Kevin McDonald, comedian

Kristy McNichols

Burgess Meredith, actor, director

Spike Milligan, actor, writer

Spike Mulligan, comic actor and writer

Nicola Pagett

Ben Stiller, actor, director, writer

David Strickland

Lili Taylor

Tracy Ullman

Jean-Claude Van Damme

Robin Williams

Jonathon Winters, comedian

Artists

Alvin Alley, dancer, choreogapher

Ludwig Von Beethoven

Tim Burton, artist, director

Francis Ford Coppola, director

George Fredrick Handel, composer

Bill Lichtenstein, producer

Joshua Logan, broadway director, producer

Vincent Van Gogh, painter

Gustav Mahier, composer

Francesco Scavullo, artist, photographer

Robert Schumann, composer

Don Simpson, movie producer

Norman Wexler, screenwriter, playwright

Entrepreneurs

Robert Campeau

Pierre Peladeau

Heinz C. Prechter

Ted Turner, media giant

Financiers

John Mulheren

Murray Pezim

Miscellaneous

Buzz Aldrin, astronaut

Clifford Beers, humanitarian

Garnet Coleman, legislator (Texas)

Larry Flynt, publisher and activist

Kit Gingrich, Newt's mom

Phil Graham, owner of Washington Post

Peter Gregg, team owner and manager, race car driver

Susan Panico (Susan Dime-Meenan), business executive

Sol Wachtier, former New York State Chief Judge

Musicians

Ludwig van Beethoven, composer

Alohe Jean Burke, musician, vocalist

Rosemary Clooney, singer

DMX Earl Simmons, rapper and actor

Ray Davies

Lenny Dee

Gaetano Donizetti, opera singer

Peter Gabriel

Jimi Hendrix

Kristen Hersh (Throwing Muses)

Phyllis Hyman

Jack Irons

Daniel Johnston

Otto Klemperer, musician, conductor

Oscar Levant, pianist, composer, television

Phil Ochs, musician, political activist, poet

John Ogden, composer, musician

Jaco Pastorius

Charley Pride

Mac Rebennack (Dr. John)

Jeannie C. Riley

Alys Robi, vocalist in Canada

Axl Rose

Nick Traina

Del Shannon

Phil Spector, musician and producer

Sting, Gordon Sumner, musician, composer

Tom Waits, musician, composer

Brian Wilson, musician, composer, arranger

Townes Van Zandt, musician, composer

Poets

John Berryman

C.E. Chaffin, writer, poet

Hart Crane

Randall Jarrell

Jane Kenyon

Robert Lowell

Sylvia Plath

Robert Schumann

Delmore Schwartz

Political

Robert Boorstin, special assistant to President Clinton

L. Brent Bozell, political scientist, attorney, writer

Bob Bullock, ex secretary of state, state comptroller and lieutenant governer

Winston Churchill

Kitty Dukasis, former First Lady of Massachusetts

Thomas Eagleton, lawyer, former U.S. Senator

Lynne Rivers, U.S. Congress

Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States

Scholars

John Strugnell, biblical scholar

Scientists

Karl Paul Link, chemist

Dimitri Mihalas

Sports

Shelley Beattie, bodybuilding, sailing

John Daly, golf

Muffin Spencer-Devlin, pro golf

Ilie Nastase, tennis

Jimmy Piersail, baseball player, Boston Red Sox, sports announcer

Barret Robbins, football

Wyatt Sexton, football

Alonzo Spellman, football

Darryl Strawberry, baseball

Dimitrius Underwood, football

Luther Wright, basketball

Bert Yancey, athlete

TV & Radio

Dick Cavett

Jay Marvin, radio, writer

Jane Pauley

Writers

Louis Althusser, philosopher, writer

Honors de Balzac

Art Buchwald, writer, humorist

Neal Cassady

Patricia Cornwell

Margot Early

Kaye Gibbons

Johann Goethe

Graham Greene

Abbie Hoffman, writer, political activist

Kay Redfield Jamison, writer, psychologist

Peter Nolan Lawrence

Frances Lear, writer, editor, women's rights activist

Rika Lesser, writer, translator

Kate Millet

Robert Munsch

Margo Orum

Edgar Allen Poe

Theodore Roethke

Lori Schiller, writer, educator

Frances Sherwood

Scott Simmie, writer, journalist

August Strindberg

Mark Twain

Joseph Vasquez, writer, movie director

Mark Vonnegut, doctor, writer

Sol Wachtler, writer, judge

Mary Jane Ward

Virginia Woolf

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I had two breakdowns in six years and ended up in hospital for almost three months on both occasions. Ater the second breakdown I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2. Then I realised that I was never a normal person. I have always had major depression and this is like most of you know followed by eating disorders - yes, I eat and purge almost at least 6 times a day.... I push people away from me especially men - I suppose I have always known that I was sick. I so desperately want to get better but I have a question to ask all of you. CAN SOMEONE WITH BIPOLAR EVER BE A NORMAL PERSON? ;)

I know and understand where you are. I have been there myself. Between the illnesses, medication, and other forms of treatment, it is easy to lose yourself. Your ARE a "normal" person. You and me just have illnesses that are sometimes overwhelming and we can easily get lost in them. I've needed a Pdoc and especially a really good therapist to remind me of who I am. I was lucky to have them know me before the onset of Bipolar II, which turned my world upside down. I did lose myself for a while but with good treatment, I started to recognize myself again. It also helps that I have a couple of good friends that help me to remind myself of who I am inside my heart and body, co-existing with illness. I have been totally non-functional and still not yet fully functionally, but

I am much better. This has been and is a hard thing to accept. But as I continue to learn to accept the illnesses, I can better grieve the past, and move forward to treat the illnesses. None of us asked for these illnesses but we do have to learn to accept them and do whatever it is to get better. For me, it has been a very slow progress and I have wanted to give up many times. But then there is that me inside that loves life. I have learned and am still learning to enjoy the good moments and days and let the rest go, knowing that I am doing what I can do to get better,

I hope that some of this may be helpful to you. I hope that I may be on target in some areas. I'll be watching for your posts. I hope you find some small way to feel better, one moment or day at a time.

Sincerely,

Rhonda

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I had two breakdowns in six years and ended up in hospital for almost three months on both occasions. Ater the second breakdown I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2. Then I realised that I was never a normal person. I have always had major depression and this is like most of you know followed by eating disorders - yes, I eat and purge almost at least 6 times a day.... I push people away from me especially men - I suppose I have always known that I was sick. I so desperately want to get better but I have a question to ask all of you. CAN SOMEONE WITH BIPOLAR EVER BE A NORMAL PERSON? ;)

I know and understand where you are. I have been there myself. Between the illnesses, medication, and other forms of treatment, it is easy to lose yourself. Your ARE a "normal" person. You and me just have illnesses that are sometimes overwhelming and we can easily get lost in them. I've needed a Pdoc and especially a really good therapist to remind me of who I am. I was lucky to have them know me before the onset of Bipolar II, which turned my world upside down. I did lose myself for a while but with good treatment, I started to recognize myself again. It also helps that I have a couple of good friends that help me to remind myself of who I am inside my heart and body, co-existing with illness. I have been totally non-functional and still not yet fully functionally, but

I am much better. This has been and is a hard thing to accept. But as I continue to learn to accept the illnesses, I can better grieve the past, and move forward to treat the illnesses. None of us asked for these illnesses but we do have to learn to accept them and do whatever it is to get better. For me, it has been a very slow progress and I have wanted to give up many times. But then there is that me inside that loves life. I have learned and am still learning to enjoy the good moments and days and let the rest go, knowing that I am doing what I can do to get better,

I hope that some of this may be helpful to you. I hope that I may be on target in some areas. I'll be watching for your posts. I hope you find some small way to feel better, one moment or day at a time.

Sincerely,

Rhonda

Dearest Rhonda

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement. I am a 28 year old female and it feels like I was given a death sentence when I learned I had bipolar2.

My mother tells me excactly the things you just did but you know that it hits home a little more when you hear it from a stranger and especially someone who is also suffering the same fate as you.

You have just given me an even bigger reason to fight this thing with everthing I have.

BTW... I have not binged and purged in two days already!!!! I think I am going to win this thing! :)

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