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I've been diagnosed with aspergers syndrome, panic attacks, severe insomnia and depression. 7 years ago, I was prescribed serepax for sleep, which was my only problem at the time. Only 90mg woked. 4 years ago, I had some major life problems and was prescribed mogadon (15 or 45mg, 3 tablets of whatever the highest strength is...). I stopped having attacks frequently and only rarely. My doctor also trialed me on "alternating" valium and rohypnol due to some other things that cropped up. Rohypnol mostly made me feel sick, so I didn't take it much, and occasionaly took valium when needed. Last year, my carer/father assaulted me and left me to my own devices (which has been extremely hard) - so I simply took valium constantly, which has helped.

3 doctors have approved this, however my clinic underwent an "audit" and they can't prescribe schedule 4 drugs anymore. I went to see another G.P, who said all would be fine, but when I went to see him the next week, he said something along the lines of "you're on avanza! and noten! and 3 benzos! You'll have to stop taking mogadon, 3 is too much, this script has to last you 2 weeks" (which means he expects me to cut my dose in half immediately. Now, I get scared of doctors when I realise that they have a sort of power over my life, so I didn't say "theres a reason I was prescribed that in the first place, if I don't take it, I'll just have panic attacks again". He ended up saying "serepax or mogadon" but I can't figure out why I can't just give up the valium, I've been on it the shortest so it would be easiest to give up. Why is it so important for him to not allow me to cut out valium?

He had an answer for everything, I said I don't have a tolerance because I've never had to take more than the same dose of a tablet for the same effect. But of course, doctors know everything, and I came out feeling like I was treated like a drug abuser. I'm just a disabled young man trying to put my life together and these tablets, along with antidepressant, have meant I would be nowhere near where I am now in doing this. How do you guys deal with these doctors that freak out whenever benzos (I hate using that word BTW, it sounds as if I'm a dealer)? I'm running low on supply, I've rung 30 clinics in my city, none of who are taking new patients, let alone prescribe "benzos". I'm at my wits end - I almost feel like I should just get the mogadon somewhere else, or use my 100-odd rohypnol pills to make it look like I'm tapering, but I want to be honest.

What do I do? At this stage I am unable to look after myself and I can see myself ending up in the street or in a psyche ward. And there, they completely ignore the proper dosage of pills that I'm on. Plus I've always been let out after the 48 hour period as I don't have a mental illness. It's worse than being put in jail because you're not even charged with a crime!

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yea, alot of docs cant prescribe the good meds (benzos) anymore.... my daughter suffers from aspergers syndrome/autism and it makes me wonder what the future of medicine holds for her......

I've been diagnosed with aspergers syndrome, panic attacks, severe insomnia and depression. 7 years ago, I was prescribed serepax for sleep, which was my only problem at the time. Only 90mg woked. 4 years ago, I had some major life problems and was prescribed mogadon (15 or 45mg, 3 tablets of whatever the highest strength is...). I stopped having attacks frequently and only rarely. My doctor also trialed me on "alternating" valium and rohypnol due to some other things that cropped up. Rohypnol mostly made me feel sick, so I didn't take it much, and occasionaly took valium when needed. Last year, my carer/father assaulted me and left me to my own devices (which has been extremely hard) - so I simply took valium constantly, which has helped.

3 doctors have approved this, however my clinic underwent an "audit" and they can't prescribe schedule 4 drugs anymore. I went to see another G.P, who said all would be fine, but when I went to see him the next week, he said something along the lines of "you're on avanza! and noten! and 3 benzos! You'll have to stop taking mogadon, 3 is too much, this script has to last you 2 weeks" (which means he expects me to cut my dose in half immediately. Now, I get scared of doctors when I realise that they have a sort of power over my life, so I didn't say "theres a reason I was prescribed that in the first place, if I don't take it, I'll just have panic attacks again". He ended up saying "serepax or mogadon" but I can't figure out why I can't just give up the valium, I've been on it the shortest so it would be easiest to give up. Why is it so important for him to not allow me to cut out valium?

He had an answer for everything, I said I don't have a tolerance because I've never had to take more than the same dose of a tablet for the same effect. But of course, doctors know everything, and I came out feeling like I was treated like a drug abuser. I'm just a disabled young man trying to put my life together and these tablets, along with antidepressant, have meant I would be nowhere near where I am now in doing this. How do you guys deal with these doctors that freak out whenever benzos (I hate using that word BTW, it sounds as if I'm a dealer)? I'm running low on supply, I've rung 30 clinics in my city, none of who are taking new patients, let alone prescribe "benzos". I'm at my wits end - I almost feel like I should just get the mogadon somewhere else, or use my 100-odd rohypnol pills to make it look like I'm tapering, but I want to be honest.

What do I do? At this stage I am unable to look after myself and I can see myself ending up in the street or in a psyche ward. And there, they completely ignore the proper dosage of pills that I'm on. Plus I've always been let out after the 48 hour period as I don't have a mental illness. It's worse than being put in jail because you're not even charged with a crime!

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3 doctors have approved this, however my clinic underwent an "audit" and they can't prescribe schedule 4 drugs anymore. I went to see another G.P, who said all would be fine, but when I went to see him the next week, he said something along the lines of "you're on avanza! and noten! and 3 benzos! You'll have to stop taking mogadon, 3 is too much, this script has to last you 2 weeks" (which means he expects me to cut my dose in half immediately.

I think you need to find a qualified pdoc if you want these prescriptions. Your GP is NOT qualified to dispense this kind of medication. He hasn't studied the uses of psychotropic drugs and he isn't familiar with interactions, dosage levels, etc.

If you really want to continue with this regimen, you may need to find a psycho pharmacologist, a doctor who is an expert with these meds. You are taking some powerful stuff, and I think you need the advice and guidance of an expert.

olga

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I think you need to find a qualified pdoc if you want these prescriptions. Your GP is NOT qualified to dispense this kind of medication. He hasn't studied the uses of psychotropic drugs and he isn't familiar with interactions, dosage levels, etc.

If you really want to continue with this regimen, you may need to find a psycho pharmacologist, a doctor who is an expert with these meds. You are taking some powerful stuff, and I think you need the advice and guidance of an expert.

olga

My previous GP was well versed in interactions, and showed it when it came time to prescribe Noten (blood pressure tablets). Basicly my foster father and I went around to doctors until we found one that would be willing to prescribe. Unfortunately it's all up to me now. I've seen a couple of shrinks, but IIRC, most of them have also freaked out about tablets. Really, I need to be seeing a shrink and not a GP, I hear that when they prescribe this kind of stuff, they're taken seriously.

I've never heard of a psycho pharmacologist and haven't seen anyone with that qualification in the phone book. Any idea what else they might be called?

Basicly, in 2002, my doctor had the choice between not prescribing and being struck off (she gave in to patients begging her for morphine). Thankfully after trying 12 doctors, we found one who'd take me on. According to my previous doctor, it wasn't really over-prescribing that landed everyone in trouble, it's just a huge workload with a lot of patients coming in, where you're bound to make a mistake or 2. I think the main reason he was getting into trouble is because he prescribed a patient a piddling amount of morphine, and she turned around and sued him for malpractice. When I first saw him, he said he'd have to be very careful with me, as he had been brought forward to the medical council before. He says that to the council, I'm not really a patient that needs help, I'm just a number.

This doctor that expects me to cut down on powerful tablets, in half, that I've been on constantly for several years, what if I told him I'd look into getting a psychiatrist to prescribe and see? I get the feeling that he doesn't care what I'm prescribed as long as it's not by him...

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yea, alot of docs cant prescribe the good meds (benzos) anymore.... my daughter suffers from aspergers syndrome/autism and it makes me wonder what the future of medicine holds for her......

One of my doctors wished barbituates were still available, as they'd help me and be non addictive, but it was just a case of too many people topping themselves on them. Also, All these alternatives such as tramal and stillnox were presented to me as non-addictive, but a couple of years later, sure enough, they're recognized as addictive!

I've heard risperidol is meant to be good for the behaviour part of aspergers, but most of my problems end up in sleep problems in the end (worry = hard to get to sleep) - a schizophrenic gave me one to try, but I really don't think it's a good idea...

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Antipsychotics (seroquel, especially, I've heard) can be helpful with anxiety. And they can be DAMN helpful for sleep...

A psychiatrist would, I think, be a VERY good idea for you. (A psychopharmacologist is basically just someone well versed in scripting psychiatric meds)

Well, since I was 12, I've never been able to get a full 8 hours sleep. I got onto serepax at 17 (24 now). With the tablets, I can get 8-12, 9 times out of 10. So I'm pretty greatful for that. IIRC, the last shrink I saw only wanted me to cut the avanza/anti-depressant - don't really think that's having much effect either way anyway - another pshycologist (not sure if they're shrinks, per se) was a bit horrified about my tablet regime. On the whole though, it seems like they're much less judgemental as G.P's about tablets. Actually, the last time I had to find a G.P, I think my father said that a shrink reccommended the pills I'm on, which made all the difference!

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