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I have pondered this thought from time to time. Now is the time to let this thought out into the world of crazyboards. I'll keep it simple. Say you won around $7.000.000 in whatever lottery is available where you live. Would it lighten your depression?

Would it soften your bi-polar condition? How about stay at a luxurious mental health facility, the ones the stars go to. You know where Britney is a fellow patient just down the hall and you pass Dr. Phil on the way to therapy. I know all about the songs out there proclaiming money cant buy this and that etc. There just songs.

I'm only talking enough to money to retire, buy a nice home, buy all the things you'd like your kids to have. Absolutley no work. Just live comfortably for the rest of your life. I don't want $37.5 million in my bank account. I think that would create more mental illness (but off the record, I'll volunteer to find out!)

Also, I'm not making light of our conditions, just a thought that wonders into head from time to time - when my depression takes a vacation from time to time. Anyways my depression is back from its holiday so out goes the pleasurable thoughts, in comes the darkness.

P.S. Are there any millionaires among our community that could offer some real time advice?

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I don't think that it would make much of a difference for me. Moved out of my dysfunctional family home. Definitely not rich, but in the last two years or so I went from dirt poor to a comfortable middle class. Got married, OK job, done with college, etc. Life still really sucked. It sort of fucked with my head a bit - I had all of the stuff that I wanted, but I was still incredibly unhappy. The life upgrade didn't change my faulty brain chemistry, nor did it change my inability to manage my emotions.

That's just me though.

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yes yes a million times yes my health would be way better - even if just for the stress relief that kicks in my craziness time and time again

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it would not make my illness(es) go away.

but i could use some of that money to get treatment and medication that actually work best for me.

- i could stop worrying about the money it costs my family/government to support me.

- i could live somewhere i felt peaceful, not in the ghetto.

- i could help other people and give me more purpose in life (which would make my depression at least a little better i'm sure).

- i could pay off my student loans and go back to my favourite job - professional student - for as long as i needed to ;)

- i would know my daughter would have the means to do anything she wanted with her life.

- would know i could take care of my parents when the time cones (if they end up making it that far... :) ...)

oh man this was an interesting academic exercise until it started to depress the fuck out of me lol.

still wanna read what everyone else has to say though.

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Most of my worries and ruminations revolve around money. Right now money is extremely tight and we keep getting behind in our bills. I don't believe that money would solve everything, but it would make things easier. Right now my wife and I work too much and barely get by with enough to support our 4 kids. I worry for them a lot.

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I don't know that anything could cure my MI.

Money is a source of stress, so maybe winning the lottery would help the stress from money.

But then I'm sure I would move on to another stress to worry about.

I wonder if someone had all the money in the world and didn't have to work, they might be really lonely- for most people work is where there is the most social interaction, and distraction from our problems for a few hrs.

Or like someone else said- you might feel more pressure to be happy because you have all this money and it could end up making you feel worse. ( like I get really low on beautiful sunny days- because thinking I'm supposed to be happy only makes it feel worse)

and what if we get manic and go spending like crazy- if we're not going into debt- no one might notice what trouble we are in.

And what if we can no longer tell who our "real" friends are and who just wants something from us.

I had an uncle who used to say when he drove by a big fancy house- they have a bed and a bathroom and a kitchen. I have a bed and a bath and a kitchen.

I wonder if going into a psych ward if it makes much differance if you have 500 thread count sheets or a plastic mattress. My guess is if you feel crappy enough to go inpatient- you probably wouldn't really care.

So I don't have an answer, just a think out loud about the question.

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Or like someone else said- you might feel more pressure to be happy because you have all this money and it could end up making you feel worse. ( like I get really low on beautiful sunny days- because thinking I'm supposed to be happy only makes it feel worse)

i never thought of that. that's a really good point. things that everyone else gets excited about, when i'm way down, just make me feel worse because i don't feel anything about it all - nothing matters. so yeah.

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I'm only talking enough to money to retire, buy a nice home, buy all the things you'd like your kids to have. Absolutley no work. Just live comfortably for the rest of your life. I don't want $37.5 million in my bank account. I think that would create more mental illness (but off the record, I'll volunteer to find out!)

No reason whatsoever to have to get out of bed, clean up, deal with anything until it comes to mind again...

Enough money to buy more stuff that strikes my fancy at the moment, and then piles up unused...

I'd probably blow through it in record time, drive my self to drink trying to figure out how to use it properly, or just vegetate.

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If money could buy happiness,all the developing countries would be in deep depression with maximum crime and unhappy life.But if we compare stats of scale of discontent with life and unhappiness ,developed countries top the list.So the answer is clear .

Money can improve the treatment and better docs and hospitals ,care but not inner problems.

More over in many developing and developed countries many ppl are undignosed or stats can be reverted.

Money cannot buy happiness .But more money can certainly be caus for stress for most of us or celebrities would be gods without any problems.

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It wouldn't "cure" my illness, but it would certainly help me get better care - physically and mentally. With this caveat, I'd give that money to someone else to keep for me so that I don't go manic and spend it all. I think that would help my stress load *a lot* - which would definitely cut down on my mood swings I think. I don't believe I'd need anywhere near $7,000,000 though. $2,000,000 would or even $1,500,000 would do me fine. That's like $1,499,990 more than I have now. ;)

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Interesting topic - I just checked my lottery tix - didn't win ;) . Someone nabbed my 270 mil - damn them! Seriously - nothing's going to change my brain chemistry - so, no, money would not CURE my mental illness...of course, I could donate all that money to science and then they could find a cure for MI...and then my problems would be solved....or I could put all that money in my will and donate my brain to science and if I die, my family would be well cared for.

Nah - money wouldn't make a difference...I've earned from 10k to well over 100k...and at no time did that change how life was for me...I was still always crazy and I still had to figure out how to deal with other people (it never really went well). I'd say my happiest times were when I lived in NJ and earned about $56k - simpler times man...I could go back to that again (not the ex-h, but the snap-shot of what life was like for ME, if that makes sense).

OTH - I've been lucky enough that no matter how little money was coming in the door, I never had to worry about it...I have this miraculous way of making it fall from the sky (and no, no one gives it to me)...so perhaps I shouldn't even comment here....or maybe it's bc I don't stress about it that I've never had an issue? Please don't throw rocks.

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Nope. I had a great job making quite a bit of money. Own a home, car, no debt, pension and retirement account. Give money to charity all the time, buy more or less what I want and eat out cuz I hate to fucking cook, but none of that helps my anxiety or my illness. I had to leave the job due to pure exhaustion, but got severance for quite a while; however, recently had to liquidate some assets while waiting for SSD. That caused lots of stress for a week or so, but I do at least have the money available. I just hate to use it. Using my savings/part of my retirement freaked me out, but no more than life generally has freaked me out through the years. I've tried every brand of therapy out there, alternative stuff, accupuncture, holistic, subliminal tapes, hypnosis, you name it trying to feel better. Still feel like shit.

I've been broke too, but having money didn't make me better even though I had less financial stress. I could distract myself short term on my good days, but overall, it I didn't make me feel one bit less crappy.

I did discover I suffer from Narcolepsy, which is different from MI in some ways, but often MI is caused by whacked out brain chemicals just the way my neurological disease is and I don't physcially FEEL any different now that I'm labeled as Narcoleptic instead of depressed. It still sucks. There is no cure. Sure, they are playing around with some stuff, but even if I wanted to go to Stanford, UCLA or Europe, I have an aneurysm in my ascending aorta that may knock me out of research trials. So I'm fucked no matter what even though I have fantastic medical care. My sleep specialist is the head of the biggest sleep research lab in the state and is awesome, but it doesn't help.

I grew up well off more or less and had/have friends with buttloads of dough. Money can't stop a stroke or autism any more than it can fix whacked brain chemicals. I have a friend whose baby was born autistic. She and hubby are set for life and what it does is allow them to get private therapists and special school without stressing financially; however they would both trade their impending inheritances for a cure. I'm an only chlid who may inherit a buttload too, dpending on how my asshole father feels day to day, but I'd trade it all for my health. I know money will not correct a brain chemical issue. And even wealthy folks worry about money, sometimes more so. It's hard to understand, but they freak over it too.

And as Dangergirl said, Please don't throw rocks. I am only trying to give a different slant on things because I've been both poor and financially well off. And MI runs rampant in my mom's family, so I may have Narcolepsy and depression. No one knows because Narcolepsy fucks up your sleep, which affects how your body deals with stress, your moods, your body temp, your hormones, your weight, your immune system and I have severe cataplexy to boot. But hey, I don't "look sick" so it can't be that bad, right? ;)

P.S. Donating my brain to the neurolgical society for the study of narcolepsy is one of the most important things I'll ever do. There mostly likely won't be a cure in my lifetime, but knowing I'm going to help future sufferers gives me hope and some peace.

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And as Dangergirl said, Please don't throw rocks. I am only trying to give a different slant on things because I've been both poor and financially well off. And MI runs rampant in my mom's family, so I may have Narcolepsy and depression. No one knows because Narcolepsy fucks up your sleep, which affects how your body deals with stress, your moods, your body temp, your hormones, your weight, your immune system and I have severe cataplexy to boot. But hey, I don't "look sick" so it can't be that bad, right? ;)

I would *never* throw rocks at a fellow MI person (unless they really piss me off). However, can I throw my hand out for a donation? huh? huh? All you rich folks out there? hahaha

I kid! I kid. I'm used to being poor. Believe it or not, I'm pretty happy this way. It's only when I don't have enough money to pay my basic "kinda need those to live" bills (food, rent, electricity) that I get completely stressed out.

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When my mom has been at her worst, I've helped support her and allowed her to live with me. Supporting a parent sucks. Trust me.

So, no handouts from me cuz I never know when I may need to help out family. Sorry. Become related and we'll talk about it :)

And as much as I sometimes hate my father for being a total fucker, I can say he does give quite a bit of money and helps host fundraisers for MI. He may change his donation methods now that I've been diagnosed with Narcolepsy, but at least he does give and feels it's important. I've googled his ass a few times and was actually impressed because what he told me was true about his involement in helping out MI institutions and research and in getting the Fortune 300 company where he's a top exec to match his funds and get involved.

And my "perfect" fiance just up and disappeared out of the blue, so I'm single again. Any guys out there want an anxiety ridden, narcolepic, cataplexic, blond haired blue eyed, attractive, slightly chunky chick who's fianancially independent? ;)

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So, no handouts from me cuz I never know when I may need to help out family. Sorry. Become related and we'll talk about it ;)

I could adopt you...

nah, I have enough kids.

Guess I'll have to take my chances with the lottery. :)

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No, it wouldn't cure my illness. But, it might help.

My docs are fine, but maybe I could find ones I like more if I didn't have to worry about staying in-network. Or, I could get evaluated at a top-notch clinic. I would be happier with less med side effects (fatigue is my biggest problem). And the stress of feeling like a financial burden would lift.

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related question:

(not intended to be a competition or flamey-type discussion!)

(sorry, just had previous bad experience talking about poverty in public... never here though).

what is poor to you when you say being poor/rich doesn't matter to your MI?

we all know what rich is, i mean we even established in this context it at seven million dollars heh ;)

no argument there! that sounds rich to me!

but where do you draw the line at what poor is?

what's a poor single person?

what's a poor married person?

what's a poor person with children/dependents?

are those different or the same?

what's a poor young person?

what's a poor old person?

are those the same?

i'm really interested to see if people have the same definitions of poverty that help define whether one views money as a real solution ( <-----me being one of those folks).

i'm also interested in knowing what level of poverty people have had very forming experiences with (i'm not talking being between apartments for a month, i mean like the cupboards being empty or your electricity cut off)... how does that colour your vision of being wealthier in terms of getting better mentally/physically?

if this is a complete threadjack i'm way willing to move it on out :)

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First - most important! ;) - let me say "CrazyCatNapper, have your agent contact my... oops, ME. (I don't have an agent!) I definitely feel we were made for each other! :)

Next, remember that a quick translation of $$ in bank (used "wisely", not just spent. -IF you have that kind of control!) is to expect 4-5% return and additional asset increase for inflation.

So $ 1,000,000. translates to approximately 50,000/year.

In my mind I always fixed on the thought that 120,000/year NET would be a good income! (Duh! :) ) That would probably mean 4 million in the bank - to deal with taxes.

I definitely think I would feel "better" with $$. I could find more distractions! I could travel so I would have different "walls" to stare at. I could AFFORD my therapist and not have to stress that I was taking $$ from savings and couldn't do enough.

But, at the same time, I know I have a lot of things that others don't. And I look at them and they really hold no 'meaning'. And with $$ I could fix up a lot of the stuff (the house) that I've let go to hell etc. But would I just see things that were prettier but still lacked meaning?

Old saying "Money can't buy happiness - but it can sure let you look in a lot more places!" I really think that's true.

Other times I just think it would be a lot more 'satisfying' to bail out driving a Ferrari into a wall than a used VW! (or 3 year old Honda Accord.)

--- Lys

You ask a good question. Maybe worth a thread or maybe too complex.

I've always had issues with "poverty level". I think the way it's determined and used is inappropriate.

Without going too far OT or too analytical, I think what we need to do is determine what we think is an appropriate 'unit' or 'family' (couple? 1 kid? 2.3 kids? whatever.) determine how much it costs for that unit to have a reasonable life. (again, subject to lots of discussion!) then, once determined (say 36,000/year just to grab a number.) the 'government' would set that as the minimum level for taxes for EVERYONE. NO 'personal exemptions'. No difference if it was a single person or a family of 10. You choose how you want to live. Take responsibility for choices.

Anyway, I could go way further OT here so I will shut up.

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