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Umm... My pdoc seemed really surpised to hear that my mum (being a pharmacy assistant) deals with depression through homeopathy.

I think she's tried lots of things, St Johns Wort, Ginko, I know she uses rescue remedy... Does anyone have any other tips?

I've tried all of those things and they didn't help me... but i'm always willing to try new things.

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Jaytee, I'm a firm believer in taking the appropriate med for one's condition, but I also feel that meds can't do everything.

If you want to make progress with climbing out of the black pit, it is important to:

1) Exercise every day, even if it's a 15-minute walk. Fresh air and sun (Vit. D) can help.

2) Get enough sleep, but not too much. Resist the urge to nap if you're getting 8 hours of sleep at night.

3) Try to eat healthy food, whatever your interpretation of "healthy." I don't think it matters much if you're a vegan, vegetarian, or an omnivore, but it's pretty obvious from the research that we all need to stay away from refined sugar and white flour. Lots of veggies and whole grains.

4) Take some supplements, since it's almost impossible to get all of your nutrients from food unless you are fanatic about balancing your diet.

I did all of this and was still depressed, so I'm a firm believer in ADs, but to each his own. Even with my AD and a healthy lifestyle, depression can come knocking on your door.

olga

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Umm... My pdoc seemed really surpised to hear that my mum (being a pharmacy assistant) deals with depression through homeopathy.

Consider it a placebo trial for those who don't understand chemistry (or even herbology) and aren't interested in prayer (has concrete social benefits outside of placebo effect anyway.)

I think she's tried lots of things, St Johns Wort, Ginko, I know she uses rescue remedy... Does anyone have any other tips?

SJW isn't likely to help clinical depression so much, but it should be enough for subclinical "blues".

Gingko biloba is usually suggested as a cognitive enhancer. I'm not so sure that thinking more clearly about how much your life sucks will improve mood.

As Olga and lachesis have said, most medicine traditions agree on proper diet, adequate sleep, exercise, and therapy.

It can't hurt to add meditation or formal prayer to the list, and some form of regular social interaction.

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3 for 3 on the responses!

Pretty good!

I can't add anything except to say that i agree completely with ALL that has been said.

And if this is a long standing issue rather than "the blues", therapy really MUST be part of the mix.

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Umm... My pdoc seemed really surpised to hear that my mum (being a pharmacy assistant) deals with depression through homeopathy.

I think she's tried lots of things, St Johns Wort, Ginko, I know she uses rescue remedy... Does anyone have any other tips?

I've tried all of those things and they didn't help me... but i'm always willing to try new things.

Herbally, I think all those things have been mentioned.

"natural": SAMe (S-Adenosyl L-Methionine), this has only been on the market for a relatively short time and as thus is relatively unknown still, except by the holistic guys. If she is major depressive/unipolar depressive it may well help, my mum's unipolar and she takes it every day and finds it helpful. If she's Bipolar its no good because it is far more likely to send her manic than an AD. Its a blend of the amino acid L-Methionine (present in food) and ATP which serves to activate it. Need to buy the enteric coated tabs for it to be effective as its an unstable substance and will otherwise break down in the gut before absorbtion.

There are many good studies to show that SAMe is as effective as regular ADs, and with far fewer side effects. It is also prescribed by many Dr's in Europe.

[link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-adenosyl_methionine"'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-adenosyl_methionine" target="_blank]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-adenosyl_methionine[/link] : general info

[link=http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.same.html"'>http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.same.html" target="_blank]http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.same.html[/link] : quite a few abstracts of studies

additional benefits: good for your liver, and osteoarthritis

NB: to avoid the effects of possible raised homocysteine levels, take a good multi B vitamin daily and you can also take TMG (Trimethylglyceine) which will metholate the homocysteine and convert it to methionine

"natural"? Relatively. But then are herbal extracts "natural" anyway, they've been processed.

um... what else... some links [link=http://www.pendulum.org/articles/articles_misc_lisaalt.html"'>http://www.pendulum.org/articles/articles_misc_lisaalt.html" target="_blank]http://www.pendulum.org/articles/articles_misc_lisaalt.html[/link] (more on the bipolar side of things and be a bit critical of some of this info) oh ah... had some really good links to articles and I can't find them in my bookmarks right now, I'll post again if I can find them (toooooo many bookmarks! they're as disorganised as I am)

NB: Any "natural" treatment, well the pill variety, including herbs, should never never never be taken with a regular AD. This is because of Serotonin Syndrome. Combination treatments of the "natural" kind can also bear this risk, don't fuck with your brain it will fuck back good luck

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