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[Guest Guest]

Haldol is dirt cheap but much less effective than a drug which blocks serotonin 5Ht-2 receptors as well on mood. Assuming flat effect is fine Haldol is fine. Assuming quality of life is irrelevant Haldol is fine. Assuming the pocketbook is all that is important Haldol is fine.

[Guest Guest]

I disregard all personal stories on the Internet.

[Guest Guest]

Sure there are a few true personal accounts on the Internet but by and large the personal accounts are fabrications. Take this site. At least 50% of the personal accounts on this site are obvious fabrications. This is one of the more honest sites. Wading through personal accounts to get to the one or two honest ones is  a huge waste of time.

[Guest Guest]

Basically the underlying theme of many of the fabrications is parents have the right to quiet ill children in the cheapest most certain way and what is more parents seek to have this deemed a kind of civil rights movement. Multiple antipychotics and cheap antipsyhotics are pushed via fabricated histories from 'schizohprenics' and other mentally ill individuals to this end.

There are a lot of troubled families amongst the seriously mentally ill and some work out this  bizarreness by being 'helpful' on mental health boards.

[Greenyflower]

Dearest Unregistered Guest,

I disregard all personal stories on the Internet.

Most of us on CrazyBoards disregard posts from unregistered guests.

Wading through personal accounts to get to the one or two honest ones is  a huge waste of time.

Then by all means don't feel in any way obligated to waste your time here.

Basically the underlying theme of many of the fabrications is parents have the right to quiet ill children in the cheapest most certain way and what is more parents seek to have this deemed a kind of civil rights movement. Multiple antipychotics and cheap antipsyhotics are pushed via fabricated histories from 'schizohprenics' and other mentally ill individuals to this end.

There are a lot of troubled families amongst the seriously mentally ill and some work out this  bizarreness by being 'helpful' on mental health boards.

Thank you for your unsubstantiated, undocumented opinion. We will give it all the attention it deserves.

Greeny

[Guest Guest]

Around 2000 there was a case to the effect that unregistered guests were behind the trolling. At this late date such a claim is laughable. Trolls have multiple nicks, interesting case histories and agendas. Trolls come with pics etc. 

Another point about trolling the mental health sites it attracts a very low level troll so to speak. For example a 'schizophrenic teenager' will be claiming to be doing well on four antipsychotics and with this the claims are immune to debate as there is one chance in a million that a schizophrenic teenager is really do well on four antipsychotics.

No drug studies came up when Kassiane was Googled. You might have just got off on the anticholinergic effect of Thorazine which is substantial at low dosages.

Bottom line risperdal is a better AP that Haldol. Haldol is cheaper.

The die-hard unresistered guest is like the most honest poster on the net as what counts is the post with the die-hard unregistered guest. The post is what the post is.  The notion that a nickname is magical honesty producing device is nonsensical. You are admin. You can block these posts. Please do. I have better things to do and assuming I am blocked the consience is clear. The point about posting here is these boards are the motherload of poor pharmaceutical advice. There is a direction to the posts I make. Conservative pharmacology, backed up by Medline studies, is helpful

[Todd]

There is a direction to the posts I make. Conservative pharmacology, backed up by Medline studies, is helpful

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Excellent.

Bottom line risperdal is a better AP that Haldol.

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Oops. Not saying that you are correct or incorrect, just that you forgot something.

Todd.

[MiaB]

Sure there are a few true personal accounts on the Internet but by and large the personal accounts are fabrications. Take this site. At least 50% of the personal accounts on this site are obvious fabrications. This is one of the more honest sites. Wading through personal accounts to get to the one or two honest ones is

[Guest Guest]

What is the great thing about consistency per se. Consistent bad advice is consistent bad advice. The problem with nicknames is that the case histories self-verify the advice. The case histories are then rigged to give support to the bad bad advice.  Say someone wants to push cheap APs on people well all that person  has to do is say 'I have a PH.D in mathematics and am working as a computer programmer By far typical APs are the best.' What is consistent can be consistently a lie. 

What you have got to get straight is that who posts on this board is totally up to you and Jerod and Maddy. No one but an adminstrator can pick up double nicks and patterns of misleading advice, advice that is according to all medical science is destined to lead to zombifiction. You are avoiding your responsiblities and this is especially heinous on a mental health board if you leave the decision as to who is a responsible poster up to those who visit the site as visitors.

You should just ban those who push zombification. No excuse need be given. But the deal is almost certainly this. The trolls have made contributions.

[MiaB]

You should just ban those who push zombification.

I dislike antipsychotics.

[Maddy]

What you have got to get straight is that who posts on this board is totally up to you and Jerod and Maddy. No one but an adminstrator can pick up double nicks and patterns of misleading advice, advice that is according to all medical science is destined to lead to zombifiction. You are avoiding your responsiblities and this is especially heinous on a mental health board if you leave the decision as to who is a responsible poster up to those who visit the site as visitors.

Uh, don't forget IP addresses too.  Especially when those IP addresses lead back to registered members who said that they were leaving the forum.

I'm not a fan of censorship.  That's exactly why we allow for guest posting, to allow for people to remain anonymous.  Lately though, people like to abuse it.  We allow people to speak their opinions about meds, we don't censor them like every other site out there simply because we don't agree with them.

Your milage may vary. Gabitril was a Godsend for my pain.  OK?  It's the only thing that made it go away, too bad for me that I had uncontrollable seizures from it.  It's an anti-fucking-convulsant!  I loved it, sucks for me.  Doesn't mean that I'm going to yell and scream and tell everyone it's a horrible drug.  It didn't work for me.  It may be just the thing though for someone else.  Who am I to deny someone the ONE drug that may make a difference in their quality of life?

Zyprexa and Seroquel, Godsend for others - guess what, that's right buddy, seizure hell for me.

What is good and right for others is not always good and right for ALL.  We're human beings and we're all different.  Is everyone allergic to peanuts?  No.  But some are.  Does that mean we either get rid of peanuts all together or just give everyone peanuts and let the nuts fall where they may?  Sounds pretty cold huh?

You should just ban those who push zombification. No excuse need be given. But the deal is almost certainly this. The trolls have made contributions.

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I am the LAST person who would push for zombification.  People react differently to different meds.  My neice is 8 years old and she takes 100 mgs. of Seroquel twice a day and this kid runs around like she's taken NOTHING.  Without it, she's manic as fuck and a danger to herself and others.  She's eight years old!  Yet I was easily 3 times her size and could barely handle that dose without sleeping most of the day and eating the rest of the time.  She's sharp as tack.

The most classic case of Your Milage May Vary if I ever saw one! 

I really don't like getting this angry.  You preach to me about avoiding responsibility and trolls making contributions when you yourself are a registered member posting as a "guest" after having said that you were leaving the forum. 

No.  That's wrong and I refuse to be quiet about it any longer.

- Maddy.

[Maddy]

Around 2000 there was a case to the effect that unregistered guests were behind the trolling. At this late date such a claim is laughable. Trolls have multiple nicks, interesting case histories and agendas. Trolls come with pics etc. 

Exactly like YOU!  Wow and your not only a Guest, you're a registered user too!  With a pic and multiple nicks and interesting case histories and agenda!  No wonder you were able to describe the case so well, you're living it!

Do you still find it so laughable now?

Another point about trolling the mental health sites it attracts a very low level troll so to speak.

After knowing the above, I can't believe you really had the nerve to say this.

For example a 'schizophrenic teenager' will be claiming to be doing well on four antipsychotics and with this the claims are immune to debate as there is one chance in a million that a schizophrenic teenager is really do well on four antipsychotics.

While that's true, it's also why I go to a doctor for my medication.  It's also why I research my meds on medline, pubmed, check for interactions (not all pdocs, gps, pharmacists, etc. do), look-up info on crazymeds.us and then get the anecdotal info on the medication.  No, not everyone is going to do that.  When I was younger, I know I didn't.  All I cared about was if it was going to make me fat, break-out or bald.

It's amazing the difference a few years, more seizures and some court-ordered hospital stays can do for your priorities.  Or at least MY priorities.

Bottom line risperdal is a better AP that Haldol. Haldol is cheaper.

The bottom line is what works best for the person taking the medication.  I don't care what that medication is, even the wonder-drug Placebo

[flutterfly]

o.k. 1. how r u doing username????????? i appoligize for "unregistered" to single out your thread to start a pit fight! if we had him or her in front of us they probably wouldn't even make eye contact!

[wifezilla]

Tom? Tom Cruise? Is that you?

Hee he ehee hee hee hee hee hee

[GroovyGwen]

This thread should just be deleted as I just read it and it did nothing but piss me off and make me want to bribe Kassiane, Jerod and/or Maddy to tell me who it is.

[wifezilla]

Hi Gwen...

I wondered why this post was up too...but then I thought about it. There are really people out there that think this way and it is good to know the level of cluelessness one may have to deal with. I guess I look at this post as a lesson of sorts and think it needs to be left up.

It made me remember all the years of arguing with my hubby's parents about his diagnosis. I had a toddler, was pregnant with my youngest and had to have hubby taken away in the little white coat that ties in the back and everything. When I called his mom, her response was "he must be on drugs!" Fortunately I called his sister after that (mainly to bitch about mom) but she gave me the whole lowdown on his diagnosis, previous hospitalizations, etc. Funny thing is, hubby's older brother is also bp (as far as we can tell), but when he has an episode, its "poor D, he is so overworked. It is the stress of his high-powered job. We all need to support him." Same symptoms, same behaviors, but D is a poor put upon angel and my hubby is a fucking drug addict?!?!

Anyway...only took 18 years to get his parents on the right track. They have been very helpful for the past 2 years. I am so glad they finally understand.

(ps...thanks for the props...I was pretty proud of myself for coming up with that one...hee hee heeh)

[null0trooper]

Considering the post times I think we can all agree that mid-week hangovers are the worst.

Around 2000 there was a case to the effect that unregistered guests were behind the trolling. At this late date such a claim is laughable. Trolls have multiple nicks, interesting case histories and agendas. Trolls come with pics etc. 

Great. MORE proof that September 1993 never ended.

The CLASSIC trolls never needed multiple nicks, personal webpages w/pics.  Some, like Archimedes Plutonium could even be entertaining. At times.

Another point about trolling the mental health sites it attracts a very low level troll so to speak. For example a 'schizophrenic teenager' will be claiming to be doing well on four antipsychotics and with this the claims are immune to debate as there is one chance in a million that a schizophrenic teenager is really do well on four antipsychotics.

And you found this example on the boards here where?

No drug studies came up when Kassiane was Googled. You might have just got off on the anticholinergic effect of Thorazine which is substantial at low dosages.

Maybe because Kassiane suggested that you check for her published works. IF you had done this while sober, you should have noticed why your idiotic hypothetical example of the "schizophrenic teenager" has no bearing whatsoever with regard to her.

Bottom line risperdal is a better AP that Haldol. Haldol is cheaper.

"Bottom line, risperdal is a better AP than Haldol. However, Haldol is cheaper"

HTH, HANDE

The die-hard unresistered guest is like the most honest poster on the net as what counts is the post with the die-hard unregistered guest. The post is what the post is.

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Yes. A random set of electrons fluttering in the flatulent breezes of Shub-Internet. Congratulations. You owe the Internet Oracle 47 quatloos and a year's subscription to American Jackass.

The notion that a nickname is magical honesty producing device is nonsensical. You are admin. You can block these posts. Please do. I have better things to do and assuming I am blocked the consience is clear.

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"Help! I'm being oppressed. Witness the inherent violence in the class system!"

Poor dear. CrazyBoards is your Shiny Red Buttom that you Mustn't Press. So it's up to everyone else to keep you out and thereby assuage your bruised conscience.

Whatever.

The notion was originally that a handle would be a more memorable moniker than the generic loser account and hopefully an expression of one's individuality, such as it was. It is not considered a "magical honesty device" - ARPANET never needed it and the Internet has no use for it - but more as a "brand name".  Certain brands, such as "guest", are simply known for ill-considered trash spewed out from college dorm rooms between trips to worship the Porcelain Mother-Goddess.

The point about posting here is these boards are the motherload of poor pharmaceutical advice. There is a direction to the posts I make. Conservative pharmacology, backed up by Medline studies, is helpful

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Right. That point was, like, soooo, obvious from the start.  Not.

[Dweii]

GGGAAAHHH

This is annoying me so bad.

Haldol has helped a lot of people, including a close friend. Are you saying it can't help her because it's a cheaper med than Risperdal?

[username]

GGGAAAHHH

This is annoying me so bad.

Haldol has helped a lot of people, including a close friend. Are you saying it can't help her because it's a cheaper med than Risperdal?

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A mod on another forum threatened to ban me for saying "A lot of people with tourettes have success with Haldol" (my first post).

LOL!  Some people get a litttle sensitive when it is mentioned, as Mr guest has shown!

[Guest Llamanator]

Heh. Whoever "guest" is is pretty obviously a Grade-A loser.

Doesn't even get an "F" in the trolling department. More like a full zero. Anyone who's a member twice over, says that they're going to leave (likely in an Incensed Drama Queen Huff^TM fashion) then uses something as obvioulsy lame as that to try and start a flamewar is a Stupid Fuck.

*waves to Stupid Fuck*

At any rate, Haldol is among my next-line options (all baby-dose APs, others are Risperdal and Seroquel) for mood stabilization and anxiety.

Because I managed to tolerate the more-potent Mellaril. As a little kid. With no more effect than being drowsy all the time. Which I went off of quickly because me bouncing around was better for me at school than being oversedated. Heh. My parents preferred me bouncing around to constantly sleepy.

Wow, what a concept. Heh, heh, heh.

Mimi

*who has her favorites for trolls, Stupid Fuck isn't one of them*