withing Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Holy hell! I can't stand these assholes anymore! I swear I'm gonna go off on them if they don't shut their fucking mouths! Where did they pick up their goddamned whining attitudes??? They have such a victim mentality it just makes me sick. They whine because the instructor doesn't let them out early... what the hell makes them think that they're supposed to get out early? They whine because they don't get the grades they think they deserve. They whine because the instructor gives the class a break every day. WTF??? They whine, whine, whine!!! OMFG!!! deep breath. Only two more weeks, only two more weeks... I just can't stand it when adults whine. I really can't stand it. It's taking all I can to just not beat the bloody blue hell out of them RIGHT NOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~nestling~ Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Maybe it distracts them from deeper, more frightening worries in their lives. Maybe. Who's to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Here's what ticks me off and make me want to rage at them, and I mean throw chairs and punch holes in the walls rage at them... They come into the classroom every fucking day and whine about how they hate this class, about how they cannot understand the instructor (he's British), and how they're "not learning anything." They come in every day wanting to leave early. I mean, what the fuck??? What makes them think they can leave early just because they want to leave early? And why are they angry at the instructor because he doesn't end the class early? Just because they think the lesson is over they think we should leave? Who the fuck died and made them in charge of the classroom? They're gonna be in for a world of shock when they make it to the really real world and have jobs where they have hours of nothing to do and guess what? They don't get to go home early! And if they whine about it long enough and to enough people, they'll find themselves whining on the street with no paycheck. They act like those last ten minutes of class is going to make some kind of significant difference in their lives. Holy hell, I'm sorry to rant about this again, but it's either rant here or go on a rampage in the classroom, and I'm pretty sure that would not be a pretty sight. That, and I don't think I can cover the damages of broken windows and desks... Not to mention replacing any laptops or cellphones I might smash against the walls. I swear to god this is pissing me off so much. I wonder if I should talk to the instructor about how this is triggering me and get some extra absent days? I mean, it was all I could do to keep my cool this afternoon. I don't know what it is about Spanish classes, but hell fire, they piss me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpuppy Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Hmm. In the Army we have a saying. Bitching is a Soldier's prerogative. Yeah, we bitch. Mainly to keep our minds off the things that really DO suck. Tell the pussy muthafuckas in your class to shut the fuck up. If they want bad, I'll come shoot at 'em for a few days. I'll disconnect their power, shut off their water, make 'em eat nothin' but bread and water and cold Spagetti-Os. I'll blow up their best friend, burn their house down with all their earthly possessions inside. Make 'em do jumping jacks in a sauna, while wearing 50 lbs of gear and screaming in their face. Then they'll have a right to bitch. Until then, it's just a fucking class. [in short? Yes. I get annoyed when people bitch about petty things too.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 What's the class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 What's the class? Spanish III It ends June 28. I have at least one of these girls in Spanish IV - which starts in July - another four weeks of her whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Tell the pussy muthafuckas in your class to shut the fuck up. If they want bad, I'll come shoot at 'em for a few days. I'll disconnect their power, shut off their water, make 'em eat nothin' but bread and water and cold Spagetti-Os. I'll blow up their best friend, burn their house down with all their earthly possessions inside. Make 'em do jumping jacks in a sauna, while wearing 50 lbs of gear and screaming in their face. I don't think we have to take it that far... but thanks for the offer. They, of course, think they have a right to whine because they're "paying for the class" and it's not exactly as they want it to be. Idiots. They're not paying for the class, they're paying for an education - and that's what they're getting. They don't have the right to dictate how the classrooms are run, nor do they have the right to dictate how things should be graded. I do feel sorry for them because they are going to be shocked when they get out into the business world and things really don't work as they think they should... I betcha one of them is gonna make the mistake of telling a cop one day that her taxes are paying his paycheck... when she gets pulled over for driving drunk. I betcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpuppy Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Well, look at it this way. I pay... MYSELF. Tell her 58,000 men want her to shut the fuck up and let you take your class in peace. She can bitch elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (Waves cane in air) Yah, kids today! what the hell's the matter with 'em! Little brats. Somebody oughta paddle 'em good! Something sorta related: I've been working security out at one post for about a year and a half now. It and the adjacent post are kinda north of town, so the supervisor rarely comes out there. Just about every fricken' time they've posted anyone under thirty out there, they tend to do three things: -Sleep for hours -Go home early instead of waiting to be properly relieved, like an hour or two, if not just clocking in and going home. -Showing up late. Anything over thirty minutes late=really damn late, and when I've been there 12 or 14 hours, it's rude. (The exceptions to this have been ex-military people, and the day-shift boss, who is under thirty and works hard). There seems to be a widespread lack of work ethic in the next generation, combined with a low tolerance for boredom. It's only a few weeks, it's only a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Okay, I've had a good night's rest and a cup o' joe, so I'm a little calmer. I am so not saying that these girls do not have the right to be dissatisfied with the class. It's their right. They're allowed to express their opinions too. I'm not trying to take that away from them. I just wish that they would shut up about it every once in a while!!! Especially after I've told them that I have no problem with the class, the instructor or having a break during class. And really, do they have to complain about these things every day? I mean, come on, show some creativity once in a while. But, I found the solution to my problem. It's so simple I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner. I think it's what the guy in front of me does (he's sick of their bitching too). I'll just come to class a minute or two late every day. They're too cowardly to bitch *in front* of the instructor, so they shut up when he comes in. So, I'll just walk in either directly before or directly after him. It's gonna torque me because I hate to be late for anything, and to be late every day is gonna tweak my nerves, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for the sake of my greater sanity. Snotaproblem, I hear you, but I think that the older generation has been saying that about the younger generation for... generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. unless you're into that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowen Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Ugh, that was something I hated about college. Bitch, bitch, bitch. I've certainly had classes where I've felt cheated out of a few hundred bucks. But I tried to make the most of it while I was there - doing extra reading if it was a topic I was interested in, extra credit assignments, etc., and then I saved my criticism for student evaluations. A lot of people would tell me to approach the instructor. I never did, not because of the confrontation but because there are instructors that are set in their tenured ways... They're gonna be in for a world of shock when they make it to the really real world and have jobs where they have hours of nothing to do and guess what? They don't get to go home early! Damn right. You know what I do at work when I finish everything? Filing records. I've done it for hours, even. It sucks. But they're not going to pay me to sit on my ass, and Lord knows that I'm not going to eat up all of my paid time off (which I am thankful for) just because there's something at work I don't feel like doing. Some people have such self-entitlement issues... If I couldn't buddy up to someone in the class and tune everything out, I'd wear headphones. It helps. If you don't have some sort of music player, even some cheap earplugs might do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olga Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Patheral, the current generation has been raised to feel entitled. Their helicopter parents have spent 18 years hovering over them, tying their shoes, not letting them walk to school, not expecting them to do chores or help cook supper etc etc. If they got a bad grade in school, it wasn't their fault, so their parents go and fight with the teacher to get it raised. If they want to enter a science fair, the parents build the exhibit. When they went to college, they were on the phone to their mothers every day. wah wah wah wah I sometimes wonder if they know how to wipe their own asses. I've read several articles the past few years written by college professors, all about this issue. It's entitlement. "I'm a special kid 'cause my parents said so and I don't have to do the research for that paper, and I don't have to hand it in on time, and can we please end this class so my friends and I can go to the mall?" I know a young man whose parents have spoiled him so badly that he's on his 4th or 5th college, has no degree, and found the 5 courses he signed up for last semester too demanding, so he dropped 2 of them. He had to write a paper for one of his classes, so he bought it on the internet. You have my sympathy, but I'm afraid if I were in your place I would turn around and tell them to pull up their big-girl pants and finish the class without whining every day. Hey, instead of coming late to the class, why don't you linger in the hall for a few minutes, pretending to read your book or drinking some water, and when you spot the teacher, go into the class just ahead of him. Then you won't be late. And I find it amusing that they have difficulty understanding English being spoken by a guy who grew up in the country where the language originated. Get the molasses out of your ears, honey. olga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob-leech Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I'm a member of the "next generation," i.e., the dumbest generation, and the narcissism epidemic is getting quite scary. I'm really afraid what's going to end up in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottacrazy Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I have this ridiculously annoying girl in my lit class, she never shuts up and she talks over the teacher. I think I may lose it one day and push her over the balcony I can't stand that shit, there are x amount of people who are paying hundreds of dollars for a class they arent learning from because some moron assholes won't shut the fuck up, if you dont like it drop out of the class! ANd for all those ass holes who wont shut up while I am trying to learn there is a 4th floor blacony with your name on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspired_Neurosis Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I guess that the irony of whining about whining is lost on you? Just kidding. I ranted about that type in my blog--most college students bitch about their own privilege constantly. It's aggravating to people who have real problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkthorn Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I'm surprised it's as bad as it is in the US, from what you guys have been saying. I mean, you have to pay for your classes up front, yes? So if you're paying for the class, wouldn't you want to get the most out of it as possible? I notice the same problem over here, but lecturers are usually very intolerant about it. Because of the way our classes run (or at least, at my uni), they only have 5 mins before and after each lecture in which to help students and answer questions. They take major offence to people talking and interrupting that precious time. Not all of my generation is bad. But then, I don't spend time with whiny people, as I would indeed crack it and start screaming/breaking things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 I guess that the irony of whining about whining is lost on you? Just kidding. I actually did think about that. But I'm not whining, i'm ranting (there's a subtle difference) hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayteana Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I knew there was a reason I took a lot of my college courses online. ~ May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null0trooper Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 It seems as though someone has a bad case of "Student Over the Traditional Age"-itis. You're approaching this as a standard transaction - you're paying money, time, and effort for an expert in the field to teach you something and you expect to get value in exchange. That can be rather intimidating to some educators and fellow students. All you really need to understand is that Mom and Dad are paying for a good grade from an appropriate institution to brag about to their friends and family - the brats' education is entirely a secondary consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meg Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 ((raises hand)) I would just like to say, as a member of this (mostly)obnoxious generation that some of us are just as fed up (if not more) with our peers than y'all are. The whiny spoiled underachievers of my generation make us ALL look bad. They are the reason that I have to try so much harder to get adults older than me to take me seriously, among many other things. They're in their early 20s but have no responsibilities or don't care about them and brag about this to each other and to the world. Trust me that they really PO the ones of us that either take on responsibility and want to achieve and be good people and productive people or the ones that had no choice but to grow up fast and learn how to take big challenges on. It is cringingly embarrassing sometimes to be near some of these people and to have to be lumped into a group with them. I'm embarrassed for them but also for myself since I know that their behavior reflects poorly on me and the many great 20somethings I know that are nothing like that. We're not perfect, but some of us actually do try very hard to be as far from that stereotype and from being that kind of kid as possible. I'm sure there are still things that we do that piss off other generations, but I think the world might just stop spinning if there weren't at least some 'kids these days!' arguments to be made against us Anyway, that's my piece-- Path, please give a mental slap to the head of each and every one of those jerkfaces on behalf of their own generation please. Also note the word 'mental' in my previous sentence Goodluck, you'll be free of them soon! m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Maybe it's just me, but doesn't /every/ older generation view the younger generation as a bunch of entitled jerks, crybabies and slackers? I mean, c'mon my generation was called the SLACKER generation. [gen X] I think we've since redeemed ourselves, eh? I think most of the generation that came before the hippie generation despised them as well for the same reason. I think it's always been that way and people just forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysergia Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Maybe it's just me, but doesn't /every/ older generation view the younger generation as a bunch of entitled jerks, crybabies and slackers? I mean, c'mon my generation was called the SLACKER generation. [gen X] I think we've since redeemed ourselves, eh? I think most of the generation that came before the hippie generation despised them as well for the same reason. I think it's always been that way and people just forget it. i think there's lots of truth in that. i think each time, the "younger" generation feels entitled to something different for different reasons. my daughter's generation drives me crazy for all of the above reasons (patheral you have my sympathies). my generation took away their agency by doing everything for them. so they feel entitled to getting what they want with no effort at all. i'm a gen X'er too. my parent's generation took away our belief that our impact on the world was meaningful (since we're all going to die in a nuclear war or get fried by our own environment anyway, and besides that, god is dead, remember?). we felt/feel entitled to drift around doing nothing that really moves us, since nothing we can do matters. i bet that's hella annoying to our parent's generation, heh. (not saying this is true for everyone by far. just an awful lot of people in my corner of the world.) i think lots of people my age have redeemed themselves of slackerdom. i'm hoping the next generation redeems themselves of whineyness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 I just want to go on the record as saying my original post mentioned nothing about age... Y'all assumed that it was only the kids doing the whining. You're right - it is mostly kids, but there's a thirty-something woman in that group who whines the loudest. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olga Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Patheral, I made that assumption based on a few things. My friends who are professors tell me that their older students show up on time, are prepared, are motivated, and don't complain about assignments and tests. Their college-age students are a different kettle of fish. The last college class I took was 3 or 4 years ago. It was from 6 to 9:00, one night a week, and had 18-year-olds up to people in their 60s. The old farts showed up on time, handed in their assignments, asked politely when they needed help, and were there for most of the classes. A few of the young ones were the same, but the majority of them showed up late or came back late from our break. They didn't have assignments ready to hand in, and I saw some of them explaining to the teacher why they weren't done. A couple of them hardly showed up. I didn't get it---it cost $350 to take that class and the textbook was $75---how can you throw that money away? Why pay for something and not try to get the maximum you can out of it? Maybe it's because I paid for my class and most of these kids have parents footing the bill. I don't know. olga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatty Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 You know what I hate? When schools award every student with a ribbon. When they don't keep score at kids' games, lest the "losers" feel bad. This sense of entitlement didn't just happen at this alarming rate overnight. How about those parents who stay in the car while their kid is at the park, and kid is being a hellion. Lest I say anything and mommy gets her ass right out of the car, but couldn't watch her kid as close as she's watching me. Sorry for being a bit off topic. Also forgive me for using the word "lest" twice! I have seen these kids you speak of. Over-indulged brats who will get a smack from reality after college. Then there are the other kids, who really value things and people and time and effort. There are lots of good kid out there, it's just the annoying ones make all the noise. As for whiny women in their 30's whining about stupid shit. Grow the fuck up lady and get moving onto what you can do to make your life and attitude better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 19, 2009 Author Share Posted June 19, 2009 You know what I hate? When schools award every student with a ribbon. When they don't keep score at kids' games, lest the "losers" feel bad. This sense of entitlement didn't just happen at this alarming rate overnight. You are so right about that. When my kids were young (late 80's early 90's) they started that crap and I spoke up about it. "No," I said to my son's t-ball team, "there's a winning team and a losing team. They can't all be winners - life doesn't work that way." "Oh, but we don't want them to feel bad." Needless to say, he didn't play t-ball for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apex Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 No one else noticing anything ironic (parodoxal?)about whining about whiners? EDIT: Ahh, someone already said it first, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowen Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 You know what I hate? When schools award every student with a ribbon. When they don't keep score at kids' games, lest the "losers" feel bad. I was in school mostly in the 90's, and this was the practice. You know what? Kids are well aware of who won and who lost. Those stupid participation ribbons don't make kids feel better. Everyone gets a participation ribbon. It's not special, and you're not special for getting one. While practices such as ribbons for all and grade inflation are ridiculous, I don't think they're the big problem. I think our problem is that we are an individualistic culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkchylde Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 As a GenY I guess I'm part of the problem. For people who come straight out of high school and into uni it is a continuation of high school. Its basically school with less class hours and more drinking. They're at uni due to expectations, either parental or societal. When you come back after being in the workforce, it's to improve your skills and career prospects. You have a far different expectation of what you want out of the class and a far higher level of commitment to the enterprise. I have done both. The first go-round was fun but all the mature age students used to be annoying. They were too motivated, kind of messed up my 1.00pm lecture beer buzz. The second time round and I am annoyed by these 18-20 year olds who can't be bothered, turn up late, chat at the back of the lecture hall and don't have work prepared for the tutes (i.e. me, a few years ago). The first was a good experience and education in life, the second is a good education in the subjects I am actually into. Really, we are there for different things and probably shouldn't be in the same classes together. dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 No one else noticing anything ironic (parodoxal?)about whining about whiners? EDIT: Ahh, someone already said it first, damn. As I said before... I'm not whining, I'm ranting - there's a subtle difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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