starpirate555 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 ok guys. i have tried low carb, low calorie, exercising, low fat, low salt even the leptin diet but nothing works. its as if the medication adapts to everything you throw at it. this is a total nightmare for me. please somebody give me a website or a book i can buy that can explain why you can't lose weight no matter what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starpirate555 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 Have you had your thyroid checked? A blood panel will help determine if you have any physical problems that are effecting your weight. When you eat low-calorie, what is the calorie range? Are you weighing or measuring your portions carefully? It is very easy to underestimate portion size-- when I diet I use a cooking scale all the time. When you exercise, how much and how often? What activity? What medications are you on? How much weight are you trying to lose? Have you gained and how much since starting lithium? ETA: I just checked and all of your posts are about not being able to lose weight on lithium. I think you need to go see your GP for some testing a nutritionist to evaluate your diet and activity level. You should be able to lose weight on lithium if you're eating and exercising properly. Getting help with this will make it easier for you. I have read that there are some studies indicating the lithium can actually help blood sugar metabolism in diabetics. I don't think there's a metabolic change with lithium except via thyroid that's pronounced enough to make it impossible to lose weight. Hunger, water weight, yes. But no medication is going to completely stop your ability to lose weight if you try, not even the notorious ones like Seroquel or Zyprexa. If you eat less than your caloric expenditure, you will lose weight. No matter what med you're on. my thyroid level dianthus is 1.34 mU/L i try to eat between 2,000 to 2,500 calories because i heard on the internet that lithium slows down the metabolism by 25% i try to eat small to medium portions i exercise 5 to 10 minutes a day on the treadmill my medications are lithobid and abilify i have gained 120 pounds since starting lithobid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unipolarbear Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I'm resolved to be an endomorph (google it). I bought clothes that actually fit and that feels fabulous! Zyprexa made me gain 70 pounds in a year and there's no way it's coming off. Fortunately, I found weight-neutral Geodon and it seems to be not adding any weight to my frame. I shop at the big and tall shop and don't think about my weight too much. I mean I'm not going to mcdonald's regularly, I'm just accepting it. Exercising and eating right are GREAT! And it sounds like you've got that down pat. What more can you do? Maybe that's for you, maybe it's not. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottacrazy Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 THe thing I did back in the day to lose 60lbs was a very, very strict diet. I was 16 mind you but I was on a 1300 calorie diet with a minimum 1/2 hr of light to moderate exercise everyday. Substituting ice cream for yogurt and chips for salt free pretzels and low sodium peanut butter. I ate like 6 times a day with 3 smaller meals and several snacks like an apple or 1/2 a banana. I basically took all portions and cut them in half so you can still be satisfied with out over doing it. LEan cuisines are great, I had a huge stock of them in my freezer, and they dont taste bad at all, and they satisfy but they are perfectly portioned. Stretching is a really good thing, yoga is also great, it is low impact and great for relaxing but it wont make you huff and puff. Walking at a moderate speed for a while is great too. Instead of the treab mill go out side and walk, bring a walkman or somethng and just keep walking. It can be very hard with meds and if your metabolism slows, I was a pretty big girl. But with a strict diet I was able to lose it. It is hard as hell, but it can be done for some people. But not every one is the same so my results can be very different from yours. It sounds like you are really trying hard, it is tough and annoying when there are no results. I would recommen not weighing yourself for a while and just try what works for you, even if you dont loose it all, you will feel better and be healthier but with out obsessing over a number. SOmetimes freaking over a number can jinx you...or what ever you wanna call it. It is best to just forget about numbers and just make it your goal to feel and be healthier. Hope I was of some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest sam Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 hey I reccomend alli!! it used to be a drug, still is, but now is sold half strength in supplement form. It doesnt do anything to the brain, bascially no sidde effects, cept diareah if you eat alot of fat. It makes the body not absorb fat. So you take one with a fat meal and shabam, there you have it. Ive been having the same problem as you and alli has been working. Also adderall too. GOOD DAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olga Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I think most doctors will tell you that 5 to 10 minutes a day of exercise will make very little difference to your body. If you don't keep moving for a minimum of half an hour, it doesn't give your heart time to speed up, and your muscles time to warm up, etc. Try to walk on your treadmill every day and add a minute every day or two. Work up to a half hour, and then turn the speed up and walk faster. If you don't increase your amount of exercise all the time, your body gets used to the level you are at and your metabolism adjusts and everything stays the same. 2000-2500 calories a day is a lot for a strict diet. My doc wants me to eat 1200-1500 when I'm trying to take off a few pounds. As dianthus said, weigh every portion and make sure your measurements are exact. Keep a food diary and include that handful of nuts, or the tasting you might have done while cooking something. It goes without saying that all the snack foods are forbidden unless you can eat a tiny portion and then no more. If your thyroid is normal, you will lose weight if you burn up more than you take in. I don't think you have hit that level yet. olga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenthdoctor Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 When your metabolism gets slowed down, you get reallllly good at storing fat. The only way to reverse that, really, is to exercise. And I mean a LOT because that's going to get your fat-burning machinery going again. If I exercise a normal amount I maintain weight. I'm trying to lose, so I have got to exercise even more. I don't even know how much yet...*sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olga Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 hey I reccomend alli!! it used to be a drug, still is, but now is sold half strength in supplement form. It doesnt do anything to the brain, bascially no sidde effects, cept diareah if you eat alot of fat. It makes the body not absorb fat. So you take one with a fat meal and shabam, there you have it. Ive been having the same problem as you and alli has been working. Also adderall too. GOOD DAY! We don't recommend using drugs for weight loss, sam, and if you were a member here you would know that. We advocate healthy practices. Please do not post again until you read our rules. If you write a post like this again, you will not be welcome here. Use your head---that's why it's there. olga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenthdoctor Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 hey I reccomend alli!! it used to be a drug, still is, but now is sold half strength in supplement form. It doesnt do anything to the brain, bascially no sidde effects, cept diareah if you eat alot of fat. It makes the body not absorb fat. So you take one with a fat meal and shabam, there you have it. Ive been having the same problem as you and alli has been working. Also adderall too. GOOD DAY! We don't recommend using drugs for weight loss, sam, and if you were a member here you would know that. We advocate healthy practices. Please do not post again until you read our rules. If you write a post like this again, you will not be welcome here. Use your head---that's why it's there. olga Adderall and Alli? What the fuck? Of COURSE Adderall works, it's fucking SPEED...enjoy your brain damage, Sam... And Alli is just...ew. It makes you shit yourself. I'd rather exercise, thanks...it's easier to wash sweat out of clothes than shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I gained a lot of weight on psych meds and started Weight Watchers after MANY failed diet attempts. It is the single best thing I have ever done for myself. I lost about 30 pounds on WW and lost 50 pounds in all. I became a lifetime member two years ago and I actually weigh less now than I did when I became a lifetime member. It is the only thing that has ever worked for me. The meetings provide support, accountability, and MANY great ideas. I have maintained my weight without having to count calories or fat. WW taught me so many healthy habits that I still have. While I am certainly not as strict as I was when I counted points, I still have better portion control and I pick healthier foods (which may not always be the most low-cal foods). When I find myself slipping into old habits, I start counting my points for a couple of days to get myself back on track. The reason I chose WW over other programs that send you meals is because I learned how to eat well on WW. Relying on pre-made meals will help you lose weight, but you might not know how to control your weight when you get there. It also allows for screwups, which are inevitable. Finally, I loved that it was never considered a diet, but a lifestyle change. Because a lifestyle change was really what I needed -- I needed to eat healthier and be more active forever, not just for 6 months while I was losing weight. I could go on and on about the program, but I highly recommend it. I also second what other people have said. Any activity is good, but 5-10 minutes a day isn't enough. It's a great start, though! We're apparently supposed to do 30 minutes a day at least 4-5 times a week (I believe) whether we're trying to lose weight or not. That's always been the hard part for me. I like weight training much more than I do cardio, even though I thought I never would. As for calories, everything I've read is to stick between 1,200-1,800. I didn't count calories on WW, since they use a points system based on calories, fat, and fiber content, but I imagine that I ate between 1,200-1,500 a day. Talk to your doctor or nutritionist, because they could probably help you a lot with what you're supposed to be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillech Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I actually read an article that said they found that exercise increases metabolism is false. Im not going to search for it because I am lazy, but you can google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I think it's great that you are watching your diet and exercising. I agree with the previous posts that you may need to reduce the calories and increase the exercise to lose weight. I've gained weight and I've just been accepting it so I applaud you for taking action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pippa London Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 ok guys. i have tried low carb, low calorie, exercising, low fat, low salt even the leptin diet but nothing works. its as if the medication adapts to everything you throw at it. this is a total nightmare for me. please somebody give me a website or a book i can buy that can explain why you can't lose weight no matter what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recoverymouse Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 hey I reccomend alli!! it used to be a drug, still is, but now is sold half strength in supplement form. It doesnt do anything to the brain, bascially no sidde effects, cept diareah if you eat alot of fat. It makes the body not absorb fat. So you take one with a fat meal and shabam, there you have it. Ive been having the same problem as you and alli has been working. Also adderall too. GOOD DAY! We don't recommend using drugs for weight loss, sam, and if you were a member here you would know that. We advocate healthy practices. Please do not post again until you read our rules. If you write a post like this again, you will not be welcome here. Use your head---that's why it's there. olga just wondering... where does it say we can't talk about medication for weight loss? I am a member and I didn't know there was such a policy. I advocate exercise etc. but I also know that a growing body of research shows that, for many people, the "healthy approach" is exceedingly difficult to achieve. The way I see it, overeating/lack of exercise and MI have some similarities-- ie, in both cases the brain is not processing information in a way that will bring fulfillment and physical/mental health. I suspect there will be effective medication for overeating someday-- just as there is effective medication for depression etc., a topic that is freely discussed, as it should be. Anyways, I'm not trying to complain, I think everyone has made excellent points, I just am curious where to find Olga's recommendation-- is it in the forum rules? Thanks, RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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