CrazyLee Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [link=http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090701/world/us_naked_airline_passenger" target="_blank]news article[/link] [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dvamingj_k" target="_blank]neked flying[/link] Yahoo news video says he hadn't properly taken his medication for Bipolar. Written article doesn't state this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hey! Look at the crazy people in the zoo! The media is exploitative for running stories like this and you should be ashamed of yourself for posting it. That could have been a lot of people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLee Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Or actually you can take a breath, and debate how sometimes the combination of cabin pressure, alcohol can have some wild effects on even normal brains. I've heard of a case where a guy, quite a few years ago, went ballistic and thought he could fly the plane. I do not remember the outcome. There was no known mental illness in this man. It could've been a first manic episode. It could be the combination of the cabin environment, and alcohol that just made him nuts. This could be a good way of saying too many drinks on the plane can be a bad thing, for anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yahoo news video says he hadn't properly taken his medication for Bipolar You wouldn't have brought it up here if it wasn't for the MI angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLee Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yahoo news video says he hadn't properly taken his medication for Bipolar You wouldn't have brought it up here if it wasn't for the MI angle. So? News is not always accurate. That's more the reason why I brought it up. Apparently it was also said he was protesting the airline service. Another says he was drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLee Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 I know in certain emotional arguments you're OCD progresses to Tourrette's but hey, who am I to judge. (and folk's I'm not making fun of him, bc he doesn't actually have Tourrette's- it's used though if you make satirical cracks about South Park). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Then why did you mention MI in your first post? This is the same as the post you made about the kid cutting on youtube. You're posting going "look at the crazy person," with a total lack of sympathy and expecting other to be as cold hearted about someone who could be any one of us as you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I have a tic disorder that doesn't meat the technical definition of Tourette's but looks a lot like it. I don't know where you're getting that bit of ad hominem. You think it's funny to joke about having tourette's when you don't, using it as an excuse for inappropriate behavior. I take exception to that because I have a tick disorder that causes me to say things like "I want to play with a pussy" at random times. To an outside observer it looks like tourettes and has the potential to get me in trouble like tourettes and you think it's funny. I'm not going to engage you any farther on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLee Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Now if I got on here and literally poked fun that would be different. But no, I simply stated he may or may not have a disorder because it's news. I have encountered streakers and such throughout my life. Not always a disease. It sometimes involved alcohol. Sometimes not. I left it open ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLee Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 I do not make fun of people with Tourrette's. I laugh at South Park references, feel Tourrettish towards a boss. Many of us are guilty of that. I do not make fun of self harmers. I get annoyed at bizarre postings that you're not quite sure they're faking it. Anyhoo on with the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penny Century Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I know in certain emotional arguments you're OCD progresses to Tourrette's but hey, who am I to judge. (and folk's I'm not making fun of him, bc he doesn't actually have Tourrette's- it's used though if you make satirical cracks about South Park). um, a)Tourrettes may be funny on South Park, but this is a support forum. Yes, we don't make people walk on eggshells, but we also do not use dx's as insults. We talk to people as people, not their disorders. b)If you're going to insult someone, learn basic grammar. Because you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" it took me a while to figure out what on earth you were trying to say. Not that I understand now because your level of venom seems wholly uncalled for. c)You need a lesson in empathy. d)From looking at your past posts, it seems that you think flame wars are fun. Rethink this concept or find a new board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophelia Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yahoo news video says he hadn't properly taken his medication for Bipolar You wouldn't have brought it up here if it wasn't for the MI angle. So? News is not always accurate. That's more the reason why I brought it up. Apparently it was also said he was protesting the airline service. Another says he was drinking. Well, you could have said that you were not bringing it up because of the bipolar claim, but because of other things. One would clearly think that you were bringing this up because of the supposed bipolar aspect if they were to read your initial statement. I know in certain emotional arguments you're OCD progresses to Tourrette's but hey, who am I to judge. (and folk's I'm not making fun of him, bc he doesn't actually have Tourrette's- it's used though if you make satirical cracks about South Park). See, no. This is wrong on so many levels. Just because you said, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resonance Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 The South Park episode about Tourette's included a lot of education and compassion. Even though they weren't thrilled with it, the National Tourette Syndrome Association said: Despite our pre-airing trepidations, we do concede that the episode was surprisingly well-researched. The highly exaggerated emphasis on coprolalia notwithstanding, for the attentive viewer, there was a surprising amount of accurate information conveyed. The scripted input from parents, a neurologist, peers and the therapy session with the "TS children’s support group" all served as a clever device for providing these facts to the public. South Park is a fantastic show, and while satire is exploitative by nature, I think they did a reasonable job of keeping the heaviest satire on Cartman's exploitative behavior (for which he was at fault) while educating people about actual Tourette's (for which the sufferers are not at fault). The major point of the episode was that ascribing inappropriate behavior to Tourette's that you don't have means you're a self-centered dick and hurt a lot of people as a by-product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ka-mai Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Get the fuck out of here with this shit. Just fucking knock it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_Rising Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 a)Tourrettes may be funny on South Park, but this is a support forum. Yes, we don't make people walk on eggshells, but we also do not use dx's as insults. We talk to people as people, not their disorders. b)If you're going to insult someone, learn basic grammar. Because you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" it took me a while to figure out what on earth you were trying to say. Not that I understand now because your level of venom seems wholly uncalled for. c)You need a lesson in empathy. d)From looking at your past posts, it seems that you think flame wars are fun. Rethink this concept or find a new board. Well said, Penny. I couldn't get either link to work. But it reminded me of the poor man dx with bp that stopped taking his meds, hopped on a flight about 5 days later and lost it (b/c delusional, started hallucinating, etc). An air marshall shot and killed him. This is the kind of shit that happens when people don't understand MI. You are actually stigmatizing the very people you are posting to. I don't understand what you find funny in people running around naked b/c they are delusional. These stories just add to the misunderstandings that currently take place b/t the general public and MI folks. Do you want people to stigmatize you? I'm going to guess, "no". Please cease and desist with the articles and you tube videos that make fun of people just like you and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Or actually you can take a breath, and debate how sometimes the combination of cabin pressure, alcohol can have some wild effects on even normal brains. I've heard of a case where a guy, quite a few years ago, went ballistic and thought he could fly the plane. I do not remember the outcome. There was no known mental illness in this man. It could've been a first manic episode. It could be the combination of the cabin environment, and alcohol that just made him nuts. This could be a good way of saying too many drinks on the plane can be a bad thing, for anyone. Why would we debate that? I can't get the links to work, but apparently the man has bipolar. It's an unfortunate incident. I think stories like this add to stigma. Most people with bipolar don't act that way. And, I agree you need to develop more empathy. Making fun of dx is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalgas Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I don't understand what you find funny in people running around naked b/c they are delusional. Yeah, yeah, I'm all on board the "stigma is bad" train with you and everyone else replying to this thread, but I would like to state for the record that I do find that funny, because it involves people running around naked. Just because something happens for a bad reason or the response to it generates some negative effects like this has doesn't mean that the act itself isn't/can't be funny in some way. I do have a long history of laughing at tragedy, though (humor is how I deal with the world), and I'm rather good at detaching/separating different aspects of situations like that, so I can be both amused and upset by them simultaneously without finding it contradictory. But yeah, people running around on planes with no pants on? Inherently funny. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayteana Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 But yeah, people running around on planes with no pants on? Inherently funny. Heh. People running around with no pants on? Hrm, where have I heard that before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I guess I don't clearly understand why they would have to stop the flight for that... Maybe because I can't pull the link up and figure out if he did anything else besides strip and act bizarrely. I guess someone's odd behavior, if it isn't really dangerous, doesn't feel like a horrendously big deal, and if I'm on a plane and they divert it for something that trivial, I'd be all annoyed. I mean, where the hell is he going to put any weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celestia Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 It was before I was a member here. A dear friend of mine. Brilliant Microbiologist getting he doctorate in England was involved in an incident on an int'l flight where he had a breakdown and assaulted Air Marshalls, his hands were cut from punching them through the impenetrable windows and then he was smearing his blood on fellow passengers. It ruined his career and really his life. Airlines dont serve mass quantities of alcohol like they used to and the attendants are pretty on top of anyone who looks potentially threatening for whatever reason. So, I would say it might be a FAIR assumption to surmise the man was ill. Very ill. My friend was escorted to Heathrow and put right back on a plane to Philly where he was incarcerated in the federal prison without his meds, without anyting including his glasses. I went with his eldery mother to his preliminary hearing and we were not even allowed to give him a pair of glasses. He was treated like an animal. it was about 5 mos. or longer til he did get Mental Health treatment and another 2 years til he got out of prison and he probalby has lost his pastport for a long time if not forever. Not to mention his arrogant brothers, one of whom is the director of psychiatry at hershey, completely ostroscized him and forbade their mother to see him or help him. Good 1st Generation Irish CAtholics that they are, bringing shame on the family is a hanging offense. He was ALONE. For basically 3 years. When he did get out, he went to work in a hotel laundry for 10 bucks an hour. Prior to that, he was doing really amazing things with some nasty biofilms that I wont bore you with, but they make you really sick. So, yeah. This post did not ring of compassion to me at all and it made me sad all over again over what happened to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 wow, s9, that's wrong on so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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