Ophelia Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 [link=http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/palin-to-resign-as-governor-of-alaska/?hp" target="_blank]NYT: Palin to Resign as Governor of Alaska[/link] Not a bad political strategy, I guess. You know, for 2012 and all... ugh... Palin, you're a pain in my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayteana Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Not a bad political strategy, I guess. You know, for 2012 and all... ugh... Not a bad reason to move... to some other country... far, far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophelia Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Not a bad political strategy, I guess. You know, for 2012 and all... ugh... Not a bad reason to move... to some other country... far, far away. Oh, I have been debating that. It isn't that long of a drive to Canada! heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I know you guys may hate me for this: But I love sarah palin. And yes, I am a republican. And yes, I watch fox news. And new york times is a piece of crap. Jmo. seriously not trying to be a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I know you guys may hate me for this: But I love sarah palin. And yes, I am a republican. And yes, I watch fox news. And new york times is a piece of crap. Jmo. seriously not trying to be a bitch. Some people do. Nothing to apologize for really. Although I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I think her political career is over. There's something big coming down the tubes. You don't quit your first term of governer only one and half years in as part of the Friday news dump if it's part of a broader strategy on the other hand . . .. FOX ANCHOR: Was today's presentation from Governor Palin the opening salvo in the campaign for the presidency of 2012? PALIN SPOKESWOMAN (CHUCKLING): I won't go so far as saying that. What I will say, though Stuart, this is a fighting move. This is a move that says 'okay, enough. I'm not going to keep hitting my head against this wall. I'm not playing politics as usual. You go play that game, I'll go play it another way and on another court.' She is saying, 'no, you know what, I believe in national security, I believe in energy independence, I believe in supporting our troops. It's not getting done, and I can't do it and make a difference where I am right now behind the governor's desk, so I'm going to go around the governor's desk, and I'm going to make that difference, outside -- outside government.' FOX ANCHOR: Meghan, it sounds a lot as if you are saying she's going to get out there and campaign in the lower 48. You are her spokeswoman, do you know specifically of some plan that she has to do that? SPOKESWOMAN: No, there's no plan other than, of course, as she mentioned in her speech, she is going to get out there, and she's going to rally behind the candidates who what those same ideals and values.. It strikes me as a dimwitted move politically because it allows the opposition to tar her as a quitter with little experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophelia Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 VE, I really hope you are right. I mean, I never thought that she would have been the VP nominee either. We shall see... Yes, quitting gives more things to criticize her about (yay!), but it also gives her more time and freedom to travel and crap like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryp Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I've been off the news for months (it's bad for my crazy) so here is my only source of happenings. Y'all could tell me anything and I'd totally buy it That said, weird move on Palin's part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I know you guys may hate me for this: But I love sarah palin. And yes, I am a republican. And yes, I watch fox news. And new york times is a piece of crap. Jmo. seriously not trying to be a bitch. Some people do. Nothing to apologize for really. Although I don't get it. Thank you. Her political ideals don't really make sense but, as a person, she is someone who stood strong through a lot of shit. I look up to her for being such a strong woman, no matter how off she is politically. You are going to think I am weird, but I dressed up as her for halloween and my guy friend dressed up as McCain. I attended a McCain rally in New Hampshire (I won a debate about McCain in college during his first primary...I like him too obviously). And I also almost named my dog Palin. Now...THAT'S silly, I admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophelia Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 hehehe: Top 10 Real Reasons Sarah Palin Is Resigning As Governor Her political ideals don't really make sense but, as a person, she is someone who stood strong through a lot of shit. I look up to her for being such a strong woman, no matter how off she is politically. There are a lot of strong woman out there that do not get the credit they deserve. Are you saying that you really only support her because you think that you like her as a person (or whoever you think she is) instead of supporting her, a politician, for their political ideals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenthdoctor Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Awwww crap, she figured out the election's actually in 2012. I was hoping she still thought it was in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_Rising Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 It strikes me as a dimwitted move politically because it allows the opposition to tar her as a quitter with little experience. Just more evidence to add to the "I'm not the brightest bulb in the room" pile. I thought that whole thing with David Letterman was ludicrous...anything to get yourself more coverage. Awwww crap, she figured out the election's actually in 2012. I was hoping she still thought it was in 2010. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalgas Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 hehehe: Top 10 Real Reasons Sarah Palin Is Resigning As Governor Some of those are pretty good. Actually, my very first reaction to seeing the headline was, "Hmm, I wonder what The Daily Show is going to do with this..." Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I guess this is the first time a Palin has ever pulled out early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_Rising Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I guess this is the first time a Palin has ever pulled out early. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 here's something: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 here's something: [link=http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280"'>http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280" target="_blank]http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280[/link] tee hee. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_Rising Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Palin is a wildly unethical public official, guilty at a minimum of numerous instances of abusing her authority as governor. This really says it all. Damage control, eh? Now I'm uber-curious about the real reason she resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 hehehe: [link=http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2009/07/03/top-10-real-reasons-sarah-palin-is-resigning-as-governor.htm" target="_blank]Top 10 Real Reasons Sarah Palin Is Resigning As Governor[/link] Her political ideals don't really make sense but, as a person, she is someone who stood strong through a lot of shit. I look up to her for being such a strong woman, no matter how off she is politically. There are a lot of strong woman out there that do not get the credit they deserve. Are you saying that you really only support her because you think that you like her as a person (or whoever you think she is) instead of supporting her, a politician, for their political ideals? Actually I agree with most of her ideals. But i was afraid to get shit on. There are a lot of women who deserve to be looked up to. But to me, she is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I'm probably the only liberal in Texas, so my views are probably a little biased since everybody I know adds fuel to the fire... but I cannot stand that woman. She has made too many dumb statements. I simply cannot like her because I don't want a woman like that to represent our country. It's not about political views, although we do not agree on most issues. I just want our first female president (or VP) to be intelligent and completely competent of doing her job. I always liked Hilary, and not just for her political views. She may be aggressive and may come off as kind of a bitch, but she is clearly intelligent. Don't get me wrong... I am sure Palin is also intelligent, but her statements don't always indicate that. I wouldn't be surprised if she has embezzled money. It's happened with her before, and to be quite honest, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if that came out about most politicians. There are a few I trust, both Democrat and Republican, but I can see how that kind of power can get to even the best of people. She sounds pretty panicky in her speech, though, and I hope the accusations aren't true. I hope she was just nervous about her decision and not about getting caught. She's gotten some pretty negative media for a long time, and I honestly feel bad for her, even though I don't particularly like her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Actually I agree with most of her ideals. But i was afraid to get shit on. There are a lot of women who deserve to be looked up to. But to me, she is one of them. I get shit on where I live for being liberal, so I totally understand the feeling. Even though I don't like Palin, I think it's important to have women in power. And she's made it quite clear during the negative media that she is a strong woman. Not everybody can stand that kind of pressure. I certainly couldn't. I hope the accusations towards her are untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayteana Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Even though I don't like Palin, I think it's important to have women in power. On that point, I'm in agreement. ~ May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Even though I don't like Palin, I think it's important to have women in power. On that point, I'm in agreement. ~ May Except that Palin is a stunning example of the thinking that we have to have just a woman and not a capable woman appropriate for her position. A woman in power shouldn't translate to any woman in power. Pretty obvious shit, right? But that exact mistake seems to have been made with Palin as a VP pick. I agree that we don't need to just have any woman. But as much as I don't like her, Palin put up with more negative press than anybody else related to the elections this year, and she seemed to take it well. I liked that she made fun of herself on SNL. I don't think she's capable of holding a political position, but I do think it takes a lot of guts to take all of that negative press and even make fun of it like she did. It's the same thing as me not voting for Obama simply because he was black and I wanted to see doors open for minorities. Yes, I did think we needed a black man in office. I think it was absurd that we hadn't already. But I certainly was not going to vote for Al Sharpton just because of his skin color. (Is that even his name? God, I can't even remember.) Obama won me over despite the fact that I was more interested in having a female president or VP than a black president, simply because I'm female. If I wanted just any woman in power, I would have voted for McCain. So I DEFINITELY agree with you that we do need competent women in power, not just any woman. I would not vote for any woman if I found her to be incapable of performing the job abilities. But on the other hand, when little girls see those women in power on TV, all they see is a woman who is continuing to break the glass ceiling that we can't deny exists in politics for both females and minorities. Young girls are not going to know what her political views mean and they certainly won't remember any details of that woman in power that they saw on the news once they become adults. They're just going to remember that a woman was doing what is typically seen as a male job. Maybe they'll remember that and act on it. I do realize that in many occupations, we don't see the glass ceilings we used to see. But in politics, up until this recent election, we did. We would have chosen either a black president or a female VP... and that's pretty groundbreaking. The more doors open, the better. Palin, whether we like her or not, did help open a door for women. I just realized that for somebody who so passionately dislikes Palin, I'm certainly standing up for her a lot on this board. If my family and friends read this, they'd wonder what happened to me. But, in the end, maybe now more little girls (and certainly any minority children, as well) will realize that doors ARE opening for them. Maybe they'll choose to go inside because of it. Forgive me if this was rambly and didn't make sense. I'm a little sleep deprived. And just for the record, if I've disagreed with any of anybody's opinions on this post, it's not because I don't respect your opinions. I respect any well-educated opinion. We've just come to different conclusions about it. So if I've offended anybody, I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I get shit on where I live for being liberal, so I totally understand the feeling I am in the very liberal state of Mass. It's a good time for me when it comes to politics...haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 hey Daisy- You're not the only liberal in Texas. There's two of us . Be afraid. That said, I have sympathy for Palin. She has jurisdiction over 300,000 some-odd people in her state, and she's suddenly catapulted into the presidential race? When she probably has less experience with dealing with the media than the mayors of the top twenty largest U.S. cities? Like throwing chum to sharks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olga Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 hey Daisy- You're not the only liberal in Texas. There's two of us . Be afraid. That said, I have sympathy for Palin. She has jurisdiction over 300,000 some-odd people in her state, and she's suddenly catapulted into the presidential race? When she probably has less experience with dealing with the media than the mayors of the top twenty largest U.S. cities? Like throwing chum to sharks. Yes, but she could have declined. She could have said to McCain: "I have no experience with national politics. The media people will just go berserk over having the Governor of Alaska as the VP candidate. I haven't dealt with any foreign leaders. I haven't traveled outside of the US. In addition, my oldest daughter is pregnant and I think she needs my guidance and help. The glare of national publicity would not be a positive thing for her. I also have a baby who was born this past year with Down's Syndrome, and the first few years of his life are very important in terms of his future development. So, all things considered, I think the wise thing for me would be to stay here in Alaska, gain more experience, do some studying on foreign policy, and give my family the attention they need and deserve." But what did she do? She jumped at the chance, assuming (wrongly) that she was ready and qualified to be our Vice President. And you guys think the media savaged her? Ha. I guess you all don't remember what they did to Hillary Clinton when Bill was doing his sexual escapades. You don't remember how they attacked Dan Quail when he couldn't spell "potato" correctly. Let's go all the way back to Lincoln: there were newspapers that routinely put forward the theory that he was part black and that's why he was a "nigger-lover." (You should pardon the expression). If you're going to play in the big leagues, you better be prepared with knowledge, policy decisions, smart advisers and some leadership experience. She doesn't even come close. And she needs a speech coach: that folksy crap gets old really quickly. olga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Seriously. If she can't handle some ethics investigations and the media then how the hell does she think she could handle the pressures of being president? Or even VP? Yeah, I'd like to see a woman president, just not that woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olga Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 In addition, my oldest daughter is pregnant and I think she needs my guidance and help. The glare of national publicity would not be a positive thing for her. I also have a baby who was born this past year with Down's Syndrome, and the first few years of his life are very important in terms of his future development. So, all things considered, I think the wise thing for me would be to stay here in Alaska, gain more experience, do some studying on foreign policy, and give my family the attention they need and deserve." I was especially infuriated when I saw that a family-values conservative was leaving a special needs child when he needed so much intervention. I have a child with mild special needs. I know a lot of families through that with kids with Down's, and usually both parents have to dedicate themselves to the care of these children so they get everything they need. Early intervention is crucial. Yes, I'm sure the Palin's had someone doing all the running around with the child for them, but family values means you take care of your own, not hire someone to do it. I commented on this in another forum, and one of my male friends said I was being sexist----why couldn't Todd be the one to take care of the baby while Sarah campaigned?? Ummmmm.....well, beause Todd is away for weeks at a time for his work and when he does his snowmobile racing. He isn't exactly a "stay at home" Dad. So I agree with you, Lady Di---I think having a special needs child definitely trumps running for office. olga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynotstupid Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 If I had to pick the #1 reason I love Sarah Palin...it's cuz she drives liberal pansies ab-so-lutely insane. Makes me smile ear-to=ear everytime. Funny how everyone slings off slurs and accusations too. Forgetting or ignoring the problems of St. Obama. (What corruption? You mean he can't give a speech without 2 teleprompters present? His only experience was a state senator cuz he spent most of his U.S. Senate term running for President, and not doing the work he was elected for?) While you all go on about Palin's supposed "corruption" and "abuses of power" you forget or ignore that any thing she was accused of, she was exonnerated. All the shit flung against her didn't stick and no backscratching was involved. Liberals make me sick. Schadenfreude runs deep in the liberal psyche, I think, and it's a sad thing. Personally the only joy I will take in the overturn of the liberal establishment will be the return of sanity to the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 If I had to pick the #1 reason I love Sarah Palin...it's cuz she drives liberal pansies ab-so-lutely insane. Makes me smile ear-to=ear everytime. Funny how everyone slings off slurs and accusations too. Forgetting or ignoring the problems of St. Obama. (What corruption? You mean he can't give a speech without 2 teleprompters present? His only experience was a state senator cuz he spent most of his U.S. Senate term running for President, and not doing the work he was elected for?) While you all go on about Palin's supposed "corruption" and "abuses of power" you forget or ignore that any thing she was accused of, she was exonnerated. All the shit flung against her didn't stick and no backscratching was involved. Liberals make me sick. Schadenfreude runs deep in the liberal psyche, I think, and it's a sad thing. Personally the only joy I will take in the overturn of the liberal establishment will be the return of sanity to the country. Obama IS a saint, you didn't know that he was made a saint in the U.S? He does everything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillech Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 (What corruption? You mean he can't give a speech without 2 teleprompters present? Bush couldn't either. And seriously. Why the hell is she threatening lawsuits for asking normal, rational questions? It's almost like she's screaming "look at me! Look at me!" And when they do she throws a fit. I wouldn't want someone for president who was like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SashaSue Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 If I had to pick the #1 reason I love Sarah Palin...it's cuz she drives liberal pansies ab-so-lutely insane. Makes me smile ear-to=ear everytime. Funny how everyone slings off slurs and accusations too. Forgetting or ignoring the problems of St. Obama. (What corruption? You mean he can't give a speech without 2 teleprompters present? His only experience was a state senator cuz he spent most of his U.S. Senate term running for President, and not doing the work he was elected for?) While you all go on about Palin's supposed "corruption" and "abuses of power" you forget or ignore that any thing she was accused of, she was exonnerated. All the shit flung against her didn't stick and no backscratching was involved. Liberals make me sick. Schadenfreude runs deep in the liberal psyche, I think, and it's a sad thing. Personally the only joy I will take in the overturn of the liberal establishment will be the return of sanity to the country. As a liberal, I adore Sarah Palin. She's the best thing to happen to the Democratic party in decades, hours and hours of fun for the whole family. Conservatives make me feel sad, and sane. People who have so much trouble adhering to societal norms of their own definition, they require their government to keep them in line, and assume everyone else has the same difficulties. So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophelia Posted July 9, 2009 Author Share Posted July 9, 2009 As a liberal, I adore Sarah Palin. omg. I must say that you did scare me for a second with your above sentence, SashaSue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 you say schadenfreude, I say scheissekopfenwelt, let's call the whole thing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillech Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 This is a summary of the possible Sports Center scandal maybe coming her way: The sports complex is a $12.5 million boondoggle in Wasilla. And it was Sarah's baby. The architect at the design firm that was awarded a $500k contract to design the complex is the son of one of Sarah Palin's mentors. Palin then named that architect to a committee that then chose a contractor owned by a guy who contributed $4,000 to Palin's campaigns -- which was a lot of money for the level of politics she was at at the time. The other bidding contractors protested the bidding process. One of the subcontractors, a company called Spenard (remember that name), was a sponsor of Todd Palin's snowmobile team (which would have allegedly brought the Palin family 10,000's of dollars). Spenard had also hired Sarah to do a commercial for them a couple of years earlier. While the sports complex was being built, Spenard supposedly supplied the Palins with some of the materials for their new house. Todd Palin claims he built their house with help from some "buddies," but he won't say who they were. And Sarah blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits in Wasilla, which ensured that Todd's "helpers" remained a secret. Tangentially, around the same time that the above was happening, Palin was running for Lt. Governor. About 10% of her campaign funds came from the execs (and their wives) of an oil field service company called Veco. Veco is at the heart of the Sen. Ted Stevens scandal. The company's top execs have been indicted for bribing Alaskan politicians. They allegedly had paid $250k for an extensive remodeling job on Ted Stevens' house in 2000. Spenard was also involved in the work on Stevens' house. (Seeing a pattern?) Shortly after the new Palin house was built, Sarah took over as head of Ted Stevens' PAC. And here's where it comes together today: The indicted Veco execs are supposed to be cooperating with the Feds. June 30th was a deadline set for the prosecutors to report on the extent of their cooperation. Three days later Sarah Palin suddenly resigns from her office as governor, with so little warning that even local media in Alaska has trouble making it to her press conference in time, and her head spokesperson is in NYC, apparently unprepared and with no coherent cover story. So just because she's been cleared on other charges does not mean she's not making mistakes. We see everyday how money and power get those who fucked up out of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mika Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Did anyone notice the advertisement at the top? That's friggen hilarious and very ironic! "Support the Sarah Palin Pac". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShatteredGlass Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Haha yeah I saw that. I'm not a big fan of Palin....sorry folks. Actually as it turns out...lately I've just suggested forgetting politics. I am a liberal for the most part...but what's the point anymore? And I'm saying this because it happened when people started talking about 'what if Mccain died? Palin would be president...' And then the votes came in, hard. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomby Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 palin is a hick and she says "nuke-you-lur" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspired_Neurosis Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 *Trying*...*not to*...*rant*...*about*...*retarded*...*hillbilly*...*who is*...*helping make the world dumber*... Deep breathing, dude. Play some Charlie Parker and crack open a book. You're not even American. Anywho, I've probably given the impression here that I'm a conservative. If I have to comment on Palin, that image will be dispelled pretty quickly. I wrote a few articles mentioning her that were scrapped by my Editor-in-Chief for being "libelous." Of course, statements of opinion aren't libel, but my boss was scared shitless of lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalgas Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Anywho, I've probably given the impression here that I'm a conservative. I think the word I would've chosen (rather than conservative) is more along the lines of cantankerous. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspired_Neurosis Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Anywho, I've probably given the impression here that I'm a conservative. I think the word I would've chosen (rather than conservative) is more along the lines of cantankerous. Heh. Now that's a label I don't mind bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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