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Last tuesday, i spoke to my manager after having recieved a customer complaint at work. i was having an off day. yeah, i admit it. shit happens, i'm a crazy person. my off days are hard to hide. at least i didn't throw anything at any one. anyway, my manager told me that she would contact me when i was back on the schedule for work. five days without a word from my manager, i called in today to see if i could speak to her. my manager had left for the day. of fucking course she had. i was able to speak with a shift manager who informed me that my name was no longer on the schedule and as such i most likely no longer had a position there. i had been let go with out even being told. how fucking low is that shit. is that illegeal? i can't seem to find the answer to this particular question online but would love to know.

RAWR!!!!!!

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i filled out the online forms for unemployment compensation, hoping it goes through. i think that's all i can do with out hiring a lawyer. and i for sure don't have the cash for that. as a newbie to this whole real life thing, does everything usualy fall apart all at once? or is it just my lucky week?

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Wow sorry I have no advice. But I can say I am so sorry and that that totally sucks. And it seems like completely unfair. I would think you should be able to get unemployment of course it won't be much but it will help. Best of luck to you.

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I'd wait for the actual manager to tell you you're fired before you jump the gun and apply for uninsurance. Sometimes the shift managers have no idea what's going on (speaking as someone who's been on both ends of *that* spectrum). Don't call, go in and talk to her - nicely - there might be some miscommunication going on.

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I agree with what Patheral said. Also, if you haven't been working for very long, you might not be eligible for unemployment benefits.

When you see the manager, you can get a direct answer about whether or not you have been terminated.

olga

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You need to talk to your immediate manager before you do anything and confirm you have been terminated.

What it sounds like is that the manager gave you what's called a "suspension pending investigation" or "suspension pending temination". What these terms mean is that they want to let you go, but they suspend you first, without pay, to research the incident that got you in trouble and all prior incidents to make sure they are legally A-OK to let you go. Traditionally the suspension period is 3-5 days.

As for unemployment benefits... maybe. It depends on how your state law defines what's eligible for unemployment compensation. Traditionally, many "employee responsible" terminations aren't eligible for benefits. Benefits are designed for people who lose their jobs due to no fault of their own. But there's wiggle room. For every person you know that doesn't get it because they were fired, there is someone who does. You will probably have an interview with the unemployment office - tell them the exact reason that you were let go (they talk to your employer, so don't try to gloss it over) and they will let you know.

There is also the benefits eligibility period, as Olga stated. You traditionally need to earn X (depending on your state) dollars in the three quarters PRIOR to the quarter you worked, for any employer, to receive benefits. And the benefits you do receive are based upon those past earnings, and generally not your current earnings. So basically, you need to have worked around 9 of the past 15 months and met the dollar amount requirement of your state to be eligible for unemployment. Check your state's unemployment website for detailsk, because your state might be different.

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organized labor .... arbitration... no loss of job and back pay awarded 80% of the time. all that for the dollar value of 2 days of labor per month. not to mention a pension. where did the unions go? it makes me ill when i hear of people being railroaded for some stupid little shit.

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You need to talk to your immediate manager before you do anything and confirm you have been terminated.

What it sounds like is that the manager gave you what's called a "suspension pending investigation" or "suspension pending temination". What these terms mean is that they want to let you go, but they suspend you first, without pay, to research the incident that got you in trouble and all prior incidents to make sure they are legally A-OK to let you go. Traditionally the suspension period is 3-5 days.

As for unemployment benefits... maybe. It depends on how your state law defines what's eligible for unemployment compensation. Traditionally, many "employee responsible" terminations aren't eligible for benefits. Benefits are designed for people who lose their jobs due to no fault of their own. But there's wiggle room. For every person you know that doesn't get it because they were fired, there is someone who does. You will probably have an interview with the unemployment office - tell them the exact reason that you were let go (they talk to your employer, so don't try to gloss it over) and they will let you know.

There is also the benefits eligibility period, as Olga stated. You traditionally need to earn X (depending on your state) dollars in the three quarters PRIOR to the quarter you worked, for any employer, to receive benefits. And the benefits you do receive are based upon those past earnings, and generally not your current earnings. So basically, you need to have worked around 9 of the past 15 months and met the dollar amount requirement of your state to be eligible for unemployment. Check your state's unemployment website for detailsk, because your state might be different.

i dont know about the whole unemployment thing. i just don't know. it's now been ten days since i last worked a shift. i looked at the details for unemployment in my state and it is a bit different that what you described. it's all internet based. we have such a high unemployment rate here. 10+ percent. not counting thos who have already maxed out their unemployment benefits and are unable to find work. i have tried at least 5 times so far to get in touch with my manager. i've left her messages, i've called when she's supposed to be in. i want to set up a time to meet with her. so that i can do this calmly. rationally. i'm not good when i'm put on the spot. i need to write out what i want to say. and what i want to ask. i think, as far as i could tell from my state's unemployment website i meet the majority of the requirements. i'm also a full time student though i do not know it that plays into it at all. they do ask. i just need to see how this all plays out. ten days suspention pending termination? and being told repeatedly that i would be called

R.C.M: i think you have to have a real job to have a union. nurses, teachers, nuclear power plant people. not menial coffee shop jobs. but it was [is? maybe... but i doubt it..] my menial coffee shop job. but even those with real lobs are losing their unions and their representation.

ps: sorry for the crap quote. i'm still trying to figure that out.

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i think, as far as i could tell from my state's unemployment website i meet the majority of the requirements.

Yes, what I said about unemployment was meant to be taken with a grain of salt, because every state is different. Sorry I wasn't clearer on that point.

You generally have to meet ALL unemployment requirements to get unemployment. It's not a 6 out of 10 deal like being diagnosed with brain cooties. It's "follow the letter of the law" stuff. Again, your state may be different, and for every fired person out there who got denied benefits is a person who won them.

You may just need to, calmly, go down to your place of work and ask to see your boss. No matter what, you are legally owed your last paycheck in a legally required timeframe, especially if involuntarily terminated. You may need to go down there, ask to speak to *any* manager, ask if you are, in fact, terminated, and ask for your final check posthaste. If they don't comply, you can file a complaint with your state's labor board and receive compensation equal to your pay from the day you last worked until the day they present you with payment. Here's a link for you: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-28186.html

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gizmo, thank you. you have been so helpful and have provided so much useful information. I intend to go speak to her tomorrow morning and see exactly what is going on and request my paycheck. i hope this whole matter gets sorted out asap. it really is stressing me out. so this is my mission for tomorrow.

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