nonsum Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 i posted about this in my blog but was hoping for some more input. and the situation has changed somewhat. getting to sleep is becoming an ever more difficult task. one that takes hours. i used to be able to take my seroquil at 8:30 and be asleep solidly by 10. as of two weeks ago, this time has been getting later and later. and i am getting more and more tired, bitchy, irritable and generally unstable. i'm almost to the point where i'm afraid of sleep. i can't handle the dreams. but i want to sleep at the same time. because i need it to function. and my med guy wont give me anything but seroquil. and if i tell him it's giving me nightmares he'll pull it. but i'm terrified. my friends die in my dreams. terrible things happen to them. i see it in detail. but i don't remember it once i'm thoroughly awake. thankfully. that i couldn't actually deal with. it would break me. i need to do something. i see med guy in two weeks. i'm debating asking for him to up the seroquil to 100 mg. because 50 isn't cutting it. becasue sleep with nightmares may be worth it. i dont know. i'm really conflicted. he's completely against and actual sleeping pills or benzodiazapines. because i have a history of drug use. because i was honest about it. [my time limes with the dreams are kinda off. i can't keep the nights straight. i try. but it doesn't really work" but he seroquil thing is nasty double edged sword. i dont really feel like re-typing this whole thing so ctrl-v from my blog: [yesterday] i haven't had dreams in a very long while. but last night [5 nov] was something all together different. eleven hours of generalized evil. indescribable. i don't remember exactly what was going on in my head but i do remember waking up repeatedly. only to crash back into some strange world. but getting to sleep is another story all together. more seroquil will mean more nightmares. i don't like this whole brain being awake while the body is asleep. but at the same time, my body isn't asleep. more thrashing. more trashed bedding, quilts, everywhere. more bruises, arms. legs. [previously] i keep waking up with more bruises. i thrash in my sleep. neither my med guy nor my therapist have any sort of solution for me. i have no solution for me. i thrash so hard i wake up. blankets thrown about, freezing, sweating, i wipe my self off, go back to sleep. i've padded the walls in the corner that my bed is pushed into with pillows. six of them. i've cocooned my self with down quilts. and heavy blankets. but the blankets also are supposed to prevent the thrashing. i don't know what to do anymore. i'm exhausted. and sleep no longer comes easily. i think my subconscious is afraid of the repercussions of sleep. but i haven't really remembered any dreams since i was a young child. untill i'm tired of waking up exhausted and sore. i'm so sick of that shit. maybe it's a stress thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpuppy Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 What about switching to trazodone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsum Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 i've tried it a handful of times. that one didn't work from the get go. i just don't know where to go with this mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bueler Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I had to up my Seroquel to 100mg... I was getting away with 25 - 50mg at first. My doctor seems more than happy to up my Seroquel :-S But, I sometimes get crazy dreams and sometimes crazy nightmares. I launch into space and everything else... Last night I went on a tour with Hilary Clinton in Africa. Likewise, Trazodone didn't do anything for me, and I wound up with 100mg of Seroquel. I haven't had to up it since, and I've been on that for several months. I think I started using Seroquel for sleep early this year, maybe April or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsum Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 it's not a sometimes crazy nightmares. it's an always crazy nightmares. but it is sleep. and sleep is good. but i'm assuming the nightmares cause the thrashing. and the thrashing causes the bruises. and i just dont know anymore. is this just a "suck it up and deal" type thing or what? side effects happen. when you mess with your brain weird shit happens right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bueler Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 For me, I haven't really found a better way to sleep than this. But yeah, the crazy dreams are almost all the time, and I think it definitely is a side effect of the drug. And yeah, messing with your brain tends to do this kind of thing. BUT, I only sometimes get nightmares, but always crazy dreams. I used to (without seroquel) get a lot of recurring bad nightmares. But, you might want to check around the net for solving nightmare issues (regardless of the Seroquel). Having positive thoughts before bed (maybe taking a relaxing bath or something) could help. Your response might also be different to 100mg than 50mg, so I would say it's certainly worth a try before going to something else. Personally, I'd take nightmares over no sleep, because no sleep gives me all kinds of mental issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsum Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 i've done the no sleep thing. that gets scary too. scarier actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayteana Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 is this just a "suck it up and deal" type thing or what? side effects happen. when you mess with your brain weird shit happens right? Would it be possible to get a sleep study done? ~ May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsum Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 possibly at some point. i really want to get one done. seems like it would clear some of this sleep nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.mcmurphy Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 jesus nonsum , you are nuts! i can take most everything associated with mental instability with the exception of night terrors. just as i would titrate up to 200mg lamotrigine i would get the terrors, horrors, nightmares or what ever in fuck you might call 'em. i still take seroquel on the odd night because i don't have a doc to prescribe them any more (using the dregs for now)-it makes for somewhat disturbing sleep but not (at doses under 200mg0 enough to qualify as terrrors. you sure that lamotrigine aint the culprit? either that or in combination with quetiapine? i feel for you as sleep is the only refuge for depressed types such as my self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonsum Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 i had never heard that lamictal could cause nightmares. i've not had problems with it before which is why i'm assuming it's the seroquil. could be combination of the two. planning on talking to med guy next time i see him. but sleep > nightmares. at least they i don't remember them for more than a bit. time to suck it up and deal. because without sleep i know full well my crazy ass will go from just slightly unstable to absolutely bat-shit. ah well then. time to be big girl and cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebrina881 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 i had never heard that lamictal could cause nightmares. i've not had problems with it before which is why i'm assuming it's the seroquil. could be combination of the two. planning on talking to med guy next time i see him. but sleep > nightmares. at least they i don't remember them for more than a bit. time to suck it up and deal. because without sleep i know full well my crazy ass will go from just slightly unstable to absolutely bat-shit. ah well then. time to be big girl and cope. I had the SAME EXACT PROBLEM on seroquel. I took it for 2 years. I started at 25mg and when I quit taking it I was on 900mg!!!!!! It is evil. Evil to the core. I hated myself, I feared sleep, I feared not sleeping, it made me have sleep apnea. I finally had to come off of it. It sucked for the first few nights, but I decided to take another route, so now I take melatonin. It actually works. Not only am I bp, I have a brain injury, and my pituitary gland was damaged. So I have about 10 different 'things' that could cause me to stay awake. You might want to give the melatonin a try. It's completely natural. I take 3mg about an hour or two before bed, and I sleep really well. Good luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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