w0nderIngSparr0w Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Taking a picture entailed the sacrifice of film. Writing a letter with ink and making a mistake would imply writing it again. Waiting for it, sealed with a kiss (can't help the poetic babbling)..... Where are we now? Technology has implied the decay of creation. Loss of magic...... Does skepticism lead to happiness? I refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaNoggin Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Skepticism may indeed lead to happiness in some cases. People who are happy tend to get dissapointed when their optimism is not well invested. Dreams fall apart and love is wasted... The fairytale doesn't come true. With skepticism you are never disapointed only reassured that u r right or maybe you even witness something pleasant once in a while and be happy Just don't become an optimist unless you believe in controlling outcomes with you thoughts and prayers. Hmmm... luck anyone? I happily remain both skeptical and optimistic. You need BOTH perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0nderIngSparr0w Posted December 6, 2009 Author Share Posted December 6, 2009 Skepticism may indeed lead to happiness in some cases. People who are happy tend to get dissapointed when their optimism is not well invested. Dreams fall apart and love is wasted... The fairytale doesn't come true. With skepticism you are never disapointed only reassured that u r right or maybe you even witness something pleasant once in a while and be happy Just don't become an optimist unless you believe in controlling outcomes with you thoughts and prayers. Hmmm... luck anyone? I happily remain both skeptical and optimistic. You need BOTH perhaps... I think there's a way to be safely optimist....... Just realize the possibility of dissapointment.....and embark anyways.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalgas Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Just don't become an optimist unless you believe in controlling outcomes with you thoughts and prayers. Don't believe you can control outcomes with your thoughts and prayers unless you're trying to give me a headache (or get APs suggested to you if you believe it too strongly...). Uh, anyway, back to the original topic. Huh? Technology has implied the decay of creation? Last time I checked it enables creation, makes it simpler, and makes it more accessible to people. Sure, it also enables the creation of crap by people who don't know what they're doing, and it's less "romantic", but no one's stopping you from writing letters with your quill and inkwell if that's what you really want to do, tying it up with string and sealing wax. You wouldn't be taking pictures with a film camera in the first place without technology, though. Or doing any of those other things, for that matter. Film, paper, ink, cameras, mail delivery services, painting, musical instruments, and all that kind of stuff all were technological developments. If you'd grown up back when cameras were new, would you be complaining that people weren't painting portraits as much anymore? Let's all go bang some rocks together instead. Not the kind that have had bits flaked off to make them into useful tools like knives and arrowheads, though, because those were technological advances, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMarshall Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Building a fire implies the loss of the stick that you could use to club another rabbit with which to feed yourself. Would you rather eat raw rabbit, or delicious grilled rabbit and spend five minutes finding another stick? a.m. the cave man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 You refuse what? To communicate clearly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vapourware Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Where are we now? On the one hand I can see where you might be coming from. Everything is so sped up now that items are disposed of quicker in our technological age. It still doesn't mean that creativity dies; it just means there's more waste IMO. There's still other ways of creativity or newer methods of creativity. One example would be the advent of digital cameras. Sure, film as a creative medium is used less now but the creativity has just been transferred onto a laptop with photoshop. Plus it also allows more people access because just about anyone can teach themselves some form of photo editing. The most important point though, is that despite the changes, the basics of photography still remain - you still need to have a good eye and a good composition. No amount of technology would compensate for a bad photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crtclms Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 My cousin is a semi-professional photographer: she's a lawyer, but sells her work. One of her best friends is an archivist for the Library of Congress, and she has told my cousin that the drawback of digital cameras is that people delete every picture they don't like. "Bad" photographs provided a lot of historical background during the 20th century. Even if the photos weren't valuable to the photographer, they were important to historians. I just thought that was interesting. I agree with the rest of you that people have always complained about new technology, as if working harder to achieve the same ends were more "pure." What I also find amusing is that one of the early uses for every advance in communications technology has been porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalgas Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 One of her best friends is an archivist for the Library of Congress, and she has told my cousin that the drawback of digital cameras is that people delete every picture they don't like. "Bad" photographs provided a lot of historical background during the 20th century. Even if the photos weren't valuable to the photographer, they were important to historians. On the other hand, with digital cameras so common and built into practically everything imaginable these days, the sheer number of pictures taken probably makes up for that. I would not be at all surprised to find that there are more pictures taken and not deleted in a single day now than total in the first several decades film photography existed combined. What I also find amusing is that one of the early uses for every advance in communications technology has been porn. And a lot of it is just neat. A French group put together a DVD with a bunch of films from the beginning of the 20th century, and it's fascinating. All sorts of things that people think of as being common now as a result of modern porn (i.e. the past few decades) were already common in porn back then, like the whole "money shot" phenomenon. And by "back then", I'm talking as early as 1905. "Bad" porn is also important to historians (see also: Pompeii), just like "bad" photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0nderIngSparr0w Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Friends and foes (which i dont have, but they seem to have me) alike. I know technology has provided tools for effective creation, it has actually helped to universalize it, allowing, by example, a guy with 100$ to take good pictures that in the 70's would have implied thousands in a d-slr. ok. what i mean is that, mankind is somehow controlled by technology nowadays; i think technology is isolating humanity, we do have great computers and cellphones, but at the same time we dont have close, confident relationships... right now am typing, but these fonts cant explain the lines that are drawn in my face by certain emotions...... We must be over technology, not under it. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Why don't you get off the forums then? Develop some close human relationships? You know, live your theor and all? Cheers, Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olga Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 we dont have close, confident relationships... Speak for yourself, child. I have had close, confident relationships for over 50 years. Your generalizations are unformed and puerile. olga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalgas Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 i think technology is isolating humanity, we do have great computers and cellphones, but at the same time we dont have close, confident relationships... right now am typing, but these fonts cant explain the lines that are drawn in my face by certain emotions...... Well, considering I can't explain those lines in your face half the time even when I can see them, that's not a problem for me... But yes, we are so isolated thanks to technology. I'm able to talk to my girlfriend on a daily basis and see her weekly (at least when she's not busy with a million projects at once), when before she would've been at least a couple days away by horse. I can easily keep in touch with my friends when they move away, so when I happen to be in their city or they're in mine, we can easily find each other and hang out. Half of each of my parents' families are in other countries on a different continent, but we can talk to them on a weekly basis now instead of sending letters back and forth like when my mom first came over here. We've actually tracked down and met (in person) more people on both sides of the family thanks to computers and the Internet and my dad's interest in family history. We are easily, by far, substantially less isolated than at any other point in history. You can pick up the phone or fire up your computer and talk with almost anyone anywhere in the world. You can hop on a plane and go see them. And on top of that, you can still just walk out your door and say hi to your neighbors next door, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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