Velvet Elvis Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 oh noes! Kids around the country are getting high on the internet, thanks to MP3s that induce a state of ecstasy. And it could be a gateway drug leading teens to real-world narcotics. At least, that’s what Oklahoma News 9 is reporting about a phenomenon called “i-dosing,” which involves finding an online dealer who can hook you up with “digital drugs” that get you high through your headphones. And officials are taking it seriously. “Kids are going to flock to these sites just to see what it is about and it can lead them to other places,” Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs spokesman Mark Woodward told News 9. Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/digital-drugs/#ixzz0tmwFUE00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 And officials are taking it seriously. There's the problem!!!! Kids are generally doing REAL drugs these days! why on earth are they worrying about this crap? This in a mostly rural state where psychedelic mushrooms will freely grow from the flops of grain-fed cows, given cool, rainy weather(or indoor storage). (Maybe Oklahoma really is that boring?) And is anybody contemplating the first amendment implications of calling what is essentially music a drug? So gullible teens are (a) being taken advantage of by a clever marketer, and/or (b) learning how to achieve altered states of consciousness without using dangerous street drugs. One is capitalism, the other is pretty dang spiffy(so long as you aren't doing it in classtime), neither is illegal or should be. I once got to play with a friend's eyepieces...you shut your eyes, and they flashed red lights through your eyelids at certain frequencies...you could modify the frequency and intensity...after a few minutes, I began to see all sorts of pretty, non-red colors and to feel a sense of deep peacefulness. It was rather cool, completely harmless, and easy enough to stop-just take off the headset. In fact I wish I knew what such a blinky headset was called and where I could get one at a decent price. it would be great to have the next time I have a full-on freakout...take a couple of L-theanine mixed in a cup of white tea, put on the space music, and chillax with the blinky headset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemisia Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Sorry for stating the obvious, I can't think of the last time in human history when people weren't "addicted" to something. The Internet, TV, radio, books--and in a different vein, cars, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalgas Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I once got to play with a friend's eyepieces...you shut your eyes, and they flashed red lights through your eyelids at certain frequencies...you could modify the frequency and intensity...after a few minutes, I began to see all sorts of pretty, non-red colors and to feel a sense of deep peacefulness. It was rather cool, completely harmless, and easy enough to stop-just take off the headset. Unless you have photosensitive seizures, and then you're in for all sorts of fun. It's a good time, let me tell you. That's pretty much exactly what they do to try to induce them when you're having an EEG, eyes closed and varying frequency/intensity and everything. Just head to your local neurology department if you want one. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ody Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 äm, yes... I expect here something about, World of Warcraft, Mertin or other online game addiction. But wtf? I think it's just another pushed fear creating news, they got the best quotes, I think. I think you should read some of the books about 'politics of fear', 'manipulation of people by mass media' and such crap, If you wan't to learn more... I won't. That's my opinion. Btw. Where was the bird/swine-flu/every sesional flu, the killer Bees (only usa I think), mobile phones which kill you, electronic smog, massdestruktion weapons of sadam, the new cold war, terrorist which come to you rape your familie and kill you if you don't convert to Islam, goverment troijanhorses, solarwinds which kill the civilisation, every two years a report about that teens got every year more brutal, drug addicted, extensive drinking, Internet terrorists and hackers. (In my country) every two years a new wreck nuclear plant which is builded on the boarder of our contry, which will explode in the next month, etc. Edit: PS.: I train luiciding dreaming, should I get afraid of addicted off? Nevermind, awesome if it works. lg, Ody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 @ Ody- The killer bees are in my state already. Only slightly more dangerous than a regular hive of bees if you accidentally annoy them. Remember, panic now, it will save time later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMarshall Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 If you believe this story then I have a Digital Bridge in Virtual Brooklyn to sell you! Every year we get urban myths like this about some supposedly new dangerous fad among children. Use some common sense or at least do some fact checking people. If sounds could be used to control minds the CIA would have done it 50 years ago. This is crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 I think the issue isn't that sounds can get kids high. It's that some foolish adults believe they can, and likely some foolish kids do too. Who convinced who in what order is unknown. There is some science behind it. Play with this thing if you want. It can trip you out a bit. http://gnaural.sourceforge.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMarshall Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 NPR interviewed a neurology professor yesterday who said that there is no basis for the idea that sounds can change brain wave functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpuppy Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 *sigh* This is like that bogus police bulletin about kids huffing poo fumes awhile back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 http://synth.me/node/426 Am I the only one who knew about this shit ten years ago? Gnaural used to be in the Debian repos but was removed for being unmaintained. I compiled my own recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wherever I May Roam Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 *sigh* This is like that bogus police bulletin about kids huffing poo fumes awhile back. That was great, I remember watching a news segment where an anchor was warning parents that a new drug was on the street that kids were calling "butt hash". Hilarious. But yeah these things are nothing new. I had a roommate years ago that had one of these on his PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 "butt hash" HAHAHA! Fucking hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemistryExperiment Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 *sigh* This is like that bogus police bulletin about kids huffing poo fumes awhile back. That was great, I remember watching a news segment where an anchor was warning parents that a new drug was on the street that kids were calling "butt hash". Hilarious. But yeah these things are nothing new. I had a roommate years ago that had one of these on his PC. BUTT HASH!? Oh. My. Gosh. Because, the dangers of poo are TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS! SO are the dangers of ELECTRONIC WAVES! OhMeGee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isthisit Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Researcher Dispels Notion Music Can Get Kids High NPR article that backs up the fact that it's bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldo Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I think if you did a study, you'd find that nearly every teen pregnancy was preceded at some point by kissing. So they should ban kissing. And then there's drinking milk.....that would show up in such a study as well. --------- A former housemate of mine said he used to get flashbacks in French class. Ban French classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosarx Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Some people out there that controles things in this society thinks that no one should ever get high and goes after anything that might. There are doing this with herbal incense that you can smoke to get high and its legal - at least in some forms for now. The FDA just banned certain canabinoids at the end of last month but there are so many sythetic canabinoids that people just move on to the next one. Why is society so obsessed with things like this when more harmful drugs are freely available in stores - alchol and smokes and drugstore speed and whatever else is legal still. Seriously I want my freedom to get high as long as its not damaging my life just like people drink occasionally and are not addicted to it. Addiction takes abuse with street drugs, too so not everyone gets addicted. I'm remined of the whole campaign to try to get rid of D&D - just freakin paranoid of whatever teens are doing to have fun (although we did do quite a bit of substances in the group I was in but that was college). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanoid Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I see this is kind of an old thread, but I tried this once, and I think it's all in the power of your mind. If you believe it will work, it will, and if you don't, then it won't. I tried the supposedly scariest one "Hand of God" and it did nothing to me. I tried another one, I think "Acid" and I did have an experience. I have some friends who did this as well and it worked for them, too. It's possible they were making things up, but I know for myself that I did experience something, maybe not the actual feeling you'd get on acid, I can't compare it to that, but there was definitely something altering going on. Just thought I'd post since no one has seemed to post experiences about it in this thread. I know it's a bit old also, sorry for posting if that creates a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Yes they can induce an altered state of consciousness in some people, but so can meditation if done properly. The techniques employed in these recordings have been used as meditation aids for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 The safest way to hallucinate is in a sensory deprivation tank, if one must. i'm still not sure it's a good idea. Hallucination in and of itself may change the brain. EVERYTHING changes the brain, it's an odd little beast. That said, I'm glad I tried acid and shrooms, but my worst trips were always psychosis (and ablify). Oh, and a massive od of nutmeg, that one wasn't smart either.... Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Having tried several psychedelic substances and the audio recordings I can safely say they are nothing alike, though they are interesting combined. They do induce a state that would qualify under William James's definition of a "mystical experience" but it's not really trip like. I've had similar experiences at the end of an intense yoga session, looking at a Van Gogh painting in person, having really good sex, or witnessing nature in a really serene moment of silence. random result from a google search: William James: The Varieties of Religious Experience (1902) Lectures 16 & 17: Mysticism In these lectures, James considers something which he takes to be central to the religious experience: "personal religious experience has its root and centre in mystical states of consciousness". [p 379] Ineffability and the noetic quality He understands mystical experience in terms of four characteristics. The first two of these are sufficient to identify a mystical experience. On the one hand, there is ineffability: the subject of a mystical experience cannot find words to describe it. On the other hand, there is the noetic quality: subjects claim that they have experienced revelations, insights into vital truths. Transiency and passivity The third characteristic of mystical experiences is their transiency: they rarely last more than an hour or two at most. The fourth characteristic is passivity: the subject feels a loss of control, of being in the grasp of a "superior power". [p 381] http://www.bytrent.demon.co.uk/james/james10.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crtclms Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I think if you did a study, you'd find that nearly every teen pregnancy was preceded at some point by kissing. So they should ban kissing. And then there's drinking milk.....that would show up in such a study as well. --------- A former housemate of mine said he used to get flashbacks in French class. Ban French classes. Didn't you know? Milk is a gateway drug. Almost 100% of Heroin addicts started on milk. And if they have children, they are often corrupted, and forced to drink milk by their OWN PARENTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedoubt Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 That said, I'm glad I tried acid and shrooms, but my worst trips were always psychosis (and ablify). Me too. With shrooms & acid, I never had that horrible terror that goes along with psychosis. During one psychotic episode, I was terrified of my telephone, because it was on the floor, standing up at an impossible angle (cordless phone). As to the thread topic-- I'm going to tell my kids about this incredible new way to get high! Then maybe they won't go out and buy god knows what, god knows where... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 yeah, it;s fairly harmless, probaly, all in all. psychois is NOT a fun trip, man, at ALL. and you never know when it is going to end. i hate psychosis. Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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