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i live in aus. got paranoid schizophrenia and tried EVERY atypical there is. yes including clozapine. nothing has worked!

a new atypical called saphris is out in america. but its not available in australia yet....

ziprasidone came out in america in 2001 yet it didnt get to aus till 2007. 6 years! why did it take so long?!?!? could this mean i would have to wait years before saphris comes out in my country?

currently on an old school AP called flupenthixol coz there are no other options left. it helps a little with voices and paranoia but my quality of life is still impaired. pdoc warned me about tardive dyskinesia from this old school ap. he said it could take 5-10 years for it to happen BUT not everyone gets it. its just a higher risk at getting it than getting it from an atypical.

also been on haldol, largactil and clopixol. they didnt help very much!

does anyone have a clue when saphris will come out in australia? PLEASE somebody!

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Not sure when Saphris will come out to Australia but it might not take as long as ziprasidone. I think the hold-up with ziprasidone was due to how the drug impacts on QT intervals, but I haven't heard of Saphris doing anything similar.

There's also Fanapt that's come out too, maybe that'll hit our shores sometime.

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I'm looking for info on Saphris too- whether it's available in Canada. I can't find a single reference on the net.

I don't think it is. As far as I know it got approved by the FDA a year ago and I would imagine Health Canada or whomever does the approving would be a while behind that. Stuff seems to get approved in the US faster....

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i live in aus. got paranoid schizophrenia and tried EVERY atypical there is. yes including clozapine. nothing has worked!

Don't hold your breath for a new atypical antipsychotic.

You could always try one of the other older typical antipsychotics.

Perhaps a very different drug (not an antipsychotic) would work ?

Sometimes anticonvulsants are used. Lithium, clonazepam are also used for treatment resistant psychosis.

Either as an adjunt to an antipsychotic, or monotherapy.

Keep in mind that your brain is used to an antipsychotic, and for that reason alone you might require one.

Blocking the neurotransmitter dopamine (=antipsychotic) is not the only or best way to treat a psychosis.

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i live in aus. got paranoid schizophrenia and tried EVERY atypical there is. yes including clozapine. nothing has worked!

a new atypical called saphris is out in america. but its not available in australia yet....

ziprasidone came out in america in 2001 yet it didnt get to aus till 2007. 6 years! why did it take so long?!?!? could this mean i would have to wait years before saphris comes out in my country?

currently on an old school AP called flupenthixol coz there are no other options left. it helps a little with voices and paranoia but my quality of life is still impaired. pdoc warned me about tardive dyskinesia from this old school ap. he said it could take 5-10 years for it to happen BUT not everyone gets it. its just a higher risk at getting it than getting it from an atypical.

also been on haldol, largactil and clopixol. they didnt help very much!

does anyone have a clue when saphris will come out in australia? PLEASE somebody!

how whats ur symptom,u say clozapine deosnt work for ur voices and also delusion??

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i live in aus. got paranoid schizophrenia and tried EVERY atypical there is. yes including clozapine. nothing has worked!

a new atypical called saphris is out in america. but its not available in australia yet....

ziprasidone came out in america in 2001 yet it didnt get to aus till 2007. 6 years! why did it take so long?!?!? could this mean i would have to wait years before saphris comes out in my country?

currently on an old school AP called flupenthixol coz there are no other options left. it helps a little with voices and paranoia but my quality of life is still impaired. pdoc warned me about tardive dyskinesia from this old school ap. he said it could take 5-10 years for it to happen BUT not everyone gets it. its just a higher risk at getting it than getting it from an atypical.

also been on haldol, largactil and clopixol. they didnt help very much!

does anyone have a clue when saphris will come out in australia? PLEASE somebody!

how whats ur symptom,u say clozapine deosnt work for ur voices and also delusion??

Even a 'wonder drug' will not work for everyone.

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Hi Milkman

http://www.tga.gov.au/pdf/auspar/auspar-saphris.pdf

Any news on Saphris being out in Australia ye? I found this document above. Does that mean it's approved here?

It does seem to have marketing approval as of March 2011. That does NOT mean it's currently being marketed - only that Schering-Plough may begin marketing it at any time. Check with your pdoc or, better yet, your chemist.

i live in aus. got paranoid schizophrenia and tried EVERY atypical there is. yes including clozapine. nothing has worked!

a new atypical called saphris is out in america. but its not available in australia yet....

ziprasidone came out in america in 2001 yet it didnt get to aus till 2007. 6 years! why did it take so long?!?!? could this mean i would have to wait years before saphris comes out in my country?

currently on an old school AP called flupenthixol coz there are no other options left. it helps a little with voices and paranoia but my quality of life is still impaired. pdoc warned me about tardive dyskinesia from this old school ap. he said it could take 5-10 years for it to happen BUT not everyone gets it. its just a higher risk at getting it than getting it from an atypical.

also been on haldol, largactil and clopixol. they didnt help very much!

does anyone have a clue when saphris will come out in australia? PLEASE somebody!

how whats ur symptom,u say clozapine deosnt work for ur voices and also delusion??

Dude, the post you're replying to is almost a year old. milkman hasn't been around for a very long time. Don't expect a response.

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It's good that the availability of Saphris is edging closer in Australia. I'm another who is keen on trying this drug out.

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My Pdoc says Saphris will be out here in Australia between September and December. I'm waiting too. Not long to go now. It sucks that the government is holding it back for their own financial reasons.

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dont mean to be rude BUT how many times have we seen a new antipsychotic come out and everyone is eager and excited about it then it just turns out to be as effective as the last couple of antipsychotics that have come out of the last 10 years with the side effects being shuffled around?? remember when abilify first came out? i too am excited when a new atypical comes out. we all want a quick fix and a cure so i can get on with our lives. the last 5 atypicals that came out were not much different. just a thought.... clozaril is still considered the best and that came out in 1990... actually it first came out in the 70's then you know about the white blood cell thing. then reintroduced in 1990. if saphris is better than clozaril it would be HUGE news. they are trying to make fancy drugs that dissolve underneath your tounge like saphris. then there was invega with its fancy slow release which was really risperdal in disguise.. im not trying to be negative or insensitive. i suffer from schizophrenia myself and ive been excited about every single new atypical that has come out in the last 10 years. but boy there have been a lot of atypicals been coming out recently in america. they have found new ways of a antipsychotic being released into the body. eg. slow release invega. slow release seroquel and now a antipsychotic that tastes different in your mouth? called SAPHRIS. LOL. we should know better by now....give it a couple more years and saphris will be old news and there will be some sort of side effect to complain about THEN another new atypical will come out and we will think "this might be different than the last 7 atypicals that came out!"

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nah ill forget saphris and ill stick to the new slow release seroquel that is released into the body in a fancy different way! hang on! theres another NEW atypical called latuda? when does that come to OZ? do you think its better?

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Well, it may annoy you that there is fanfare about a new drug that is coming out. But think about the fact that it may be the one to improve someone's life. Someone who hasn't responded to any other antipsychotics but luckily responds to Saphris or Latuda.

It may be irritating with all the hype, but its ultimately a positive thing.

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Uhh, it's not uncommon to have both an oral form and an IM form of any antipsychotic. They've been doing that for over 50 years. And the IM forms are generally avoided unless absolutely necessary.

I think you need to calm down. You're not really doing much other then bitching nonconstructively. And as Pamito said, it's not even meaningful bitching, since Saphris does help people who failed to get better on or couldn't tolerate other AAPs.

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I did depot injections for a sometime

every 2 weeks at the dr.

Maybe looking in to one of them might help.

I have also found accuphas injections really really help.

but you have to go IP for that

PM if you have any quesions

I have done many psych meds, tried lots. Had ECT, depot, oral meds etc

Happy to give you some of my learned advices

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