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rosarx Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I do not know the answer to your question, however my illness progressed in very similar ways without any medications at all involved until I had my first episode of full on psychosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vapourware Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I personally haven't heard of ADs causing psychosis in people and maybe they can, but in your case I think it's more likely that your condition would have progressed the same way, with or without the Paxil. You had signs of illness before the episode of psychosis, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 what you describe as your ocd rituals and thoughts prior to AD tx seemed pretty severe to me, so it's entirely possible this all would have happened if left untreated completely. Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisiforgot Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I don't think it was the antidepressants that caused it, from the sound of it it sounds like it was just progressing over time, with or without the medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama44 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hey there buddy. I do agree with the rest. Unfortunately I think this was bound to happen on its own with or without the paxil. I was on paxil too when I was 14 and didn't even develop psychosis (well bad psychosis) until I was in my early twenties maybe 19. So I don't think there is a correlation. Whether or not you need an antidepressant is up to your pdoc. Mine just took me off mine because of the severe mania I've been experiencing/still experiencing. ugh And that episode you had is so eerily similar to the one I had that landed me in the state hospital for 3 months that one time. I know we've talked about it before. Just so odd. I had to quit driving because of the thoughts and panic attacks. The thoughts are better but the anxiety is still there you know? I just can't bring myself to drive no matter what. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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llama44 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yeah, not a bad idea to bring it up to your pdoc. Couldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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llama44 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'm glad you got a definitive answer. Although it may not have been what you wanted to hear. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netsavy006 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Even if it's not the answer you wanted, I'm glad you got an answer. I'd like to let you know that from my personal experience with antidepressants, I know that they made me manic but never gave me psychosis, and I have schizoaffective disorder too. My doc and I think it's best to avoid antidepressants altogether to prevent manic attacks from them, and to continue my current regimen to best help my symptoms. Hope this helps, Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightened_plutonian Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi, A few years ago I went through a very similar thought pattern, convinced that my AD's were making me see things. Repeatedly I went back to the GP as I didn't know if it was safe for me to just come off them straight away. But I was always told to keep on them a little longer and there was no way the AD could be causing the symptoms I had. Eventually I did come off the AD but my hallucinations did not go away. To me, this was the evidence I needed to say that (though the AD could have triggered them) perhaps it wasn't the full cause. So I went to the optician, who looked in my eyes and said that there was nothing wrong. But I guess that each case could be individual. Maybe there is a link, maybe not?? Hope this makes sense. I seem to be really struggling to get my words out today. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpmaster Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 It is very unlikely that an SSRI caused psychosis. Yes they can trigger mania in some people. Its more likely that you would have got psychosis anyway, regardless of ssri use. A lot of people in this forum take SSRis in conjunction with anti psychotics to treat psychosis. I personally am on prozac and clozpaine to treat schizophrenia, panic and obsessional thoughts, and it works very well for me. Id suggest that you take this question to your next dr's appointment. It will make interesting conversation if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb1560 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Yes, antidepressants can cause manic psychosis anytime there is a change in the medicine dose, up down, or completely stopping, or completely changing from Paxil to Effexor ect. Please do an online search "psychosis from antidepressants". Look at "micheal carmichael's site. He became psychotic on Paxil and murdered his baby. I am not trying to scare you, but inform you. Do the research. Dr's are not telling patients that the A/D's cause agitation/mania and psychosis. There are conditions which can cause psychosis even if you do not take medicine. As you are having thoughts that you've murdered people you may be experiencing agitation from the A/D. I would tell your doctor of your thoughts and if he doesn't advice you to VERY, VERY, VERLY SLOWLY TAPER OFF OF THEM, I would switch doctors. Suicide and homicide occurs because of psychosis/paranoia and agitation people get from the drugs. I am not a doctor....if I was experiencing the horrific things you are I would want to safely be tapered off of the drugs to see if I was still having those thoughts. Rapidly stopping A/D's can also cause psychosis and you could commit suicide and or homicide because the drugs make you not in your right mind and you don't know what you are doing. I wish I didn't have to tell you any of this...but god forbid you killed yourself or somebody else. I MUST STRESS DEPENDING ON HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN ON THE A/D'S YOU MUST TAPER SLOWLY EVEN IF IT TAKES A YEAR TO AVOID A MANIC PSYCHOSIS. i HOPE YOU READ THIS AND I HOPE AND PRAY YOU ARE OKAY. You can get psychosis from BP, depression and schizopherenia, but if I were taking the drugs that are known to cause psychosis (ALL A/D'S) I WOULD STOP SAFELY TO TEST IF IT IS THE DRUGS OR A MEDICAL CONDITION. TAKE CARE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb1560 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I forgot to add some people become psychotic within days of just starting any A/D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SashaSue Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Yes, antidepressants can cause manic psychosis anytime there is a change in the medicine dose, up down, or completely stopping, or completely changing from Paxil to Effexor ect. Please do an online search "psychosis from antidepressants". Look at "micheal carmichael's site. He became psychotic on Paxil and murdered his baby. I am not trying to scare you, but inform you. Do the research. Dr's are not telling patients that the A/D's cause agitation/mania and psychosis. There are conditions which can cause psychosis even if you do not take medicine. As you are having thoughts that you've murdered people you may be experiencing agitation from the A/D. I would tell your doctor of your thoughts and if he doesn't advice you to VERY, VERY, VERLY SLOWLY TAPER OFF OF THEM, I would switch doctors. Suicide and homicide occurs because of psychosis/paranoia and agitation people get from the drugs. I am not a doctor....if I was experiencing the horrific things you are I would want to safely be tapered off of the drugs to see if I was still having those thoughts. Rapidly stopping A/D's can also cause psychosis and you could commit suicide and or homicide because the drugs make you not in your right mind and you don't know what you are doing. I wish I didn't have to tell you any of this...but god forbid you killed yourself or somebody else. I MUST STRESS DEPENDING ON HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN ON THE A/D'S YOU MUST TAPER SLOWLY EVEN IF IT TAKES A YEAR TO AVOID A MANIC PSYCHOSIS. i HOPE YOU READ THIS AND I HOPE AND PRAY YOU ARE OKAY. You can get psychosis from BP, depression and schizopherenia, but if I were taking the drugs that are known to cause psychosis (ALL A/D'S) I WOULD STOP SAFELY TO TEST IF IT IS THE DRUGS OR A MEDICAL CONDITION. TAKE CARE. If you can provide any actual published research to support any of these claims, please do so. If not, please spare us the ranting and raving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama44 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 My favorite part of the rant? "I'm not a doctor..." Nuff said folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb415 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 My favorite part of the rant? "I'm not a doctor..." Nuff said folks. This was not a "rant"....I am an actually living victim- when I stopped taking Effexor XR I became psychotic and manic. Are you a doctor? I didn't know I had to be a doctor to post here. I am not speaking about people with schizophrenia or other similar illnesses that have to take medicine for psychosis that is not medicine induced. I am talking about A/D induced psychosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb415 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yes, antidepressants can cause manic psychosis anytime there is a change in the medicine dose, up down, or completely stopping, or completely changing from Paxil to Effexor ect. Please do an online search "psychosis from antidepressants". Look at "micheal carmichael's site. He became psychotic on Paxil and murdered his baby. I am not trying to scare you, but inform you. Do the research. Dr's are not telling patients that the A/D's cause agitation/mania and psychosis. There are conditions which can cause psychosis even if you do not take medicine. As you are having thoughts that you've murdered people you may be experiencing agitation from the A/D. I would tell your doctor of your thoughts and if he doesn't advice you to VERY, VERY, VERLY SLOWLY TAPER OFF OF THEM, I would switch doctors. Suicide and homicide occurs because of psychosis/paranoia and agitation people get from the drugs. I am not a doctor....if I was experiencing the horrific things you are I would want to safely be tapered off of the drugs to see if I was still having those thoughts. Rapidly stopping A/D's can also cause psychosis and you could commit suicide and or homicide because the drugs make you not in your right mind and you don't know what you are doing. I wish I didn't have to tell you any of this...but god forbid you killed yourself or somebody else. I MUST STRESS DEPENDING ON HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN ON THE A/D'S YOU MUST TAPER SLOWLY EVEN IF IT TAKES A YEAR TO AVOID A MANIC PSYCHOSIS. i HOPE YOU READ THIS AND I HOPE AND PRAY YOU ARE OKAY. You can get psychosis from BP, depression and schizopherenia, but if I were taking the drugs that are known to cause psychosis (ALL A/D'S) I WOULD STOP SAFELY TO TEST IF IT IS THE DRUGS OR A MEDICAL CONDITION. TAKE CARE. If you can provide any actual published research to support any of these claims, please do so. If not, please spare us the ranting and raving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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