mammakanin Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 this isn't supposed to happen here! they are saying that a bomb exploded outside the government buildings in olso, norway. so i turned on the tv. it's bad. it's really bad. i shouldn't have turned on the tv. the tv has the nrk (norwegian state tv) feed. i'm trying to figure out what they are saying, but all i can tell is that they really don't know. and they keep repeating themseleves and showing the same pictures over and over. and if i understand correctly, it just got worse, there is a gunman at a youth camp somewhere else in the country. i'm turning off the tv before any more bad stuff comes on. this isn't supposed to happen here. but i've said that before, this isn't supposed to happen to me about friends being killed in car accidents and dying of breast cancer. i'm sad. and just a little scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilacOutsideMyWindow Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'm so sorry you're scared, and I'm sad with you. For others, the BBC has decent coverage here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt07 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Don't be scared. The odds of ever being involved in a terrorist attack are miniscule. I believe that it is less than the odds of being killed in an airplane crash. It's sad, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vapourware Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'm really sorry to hear about the news. I'm pretty shocked too. Norway always seemed like a peaceful place; it's hard to imagine it being the target of a bomb attack and shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryp Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 It's very scary. I would be scared if something like that happened here or in Canada. Keep the TV off - after 9/11 they found that people who watched the news, even people who weren't in NYC, were at much higher risk for PTSD and trauma issues than people who kept their TVs off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 It's very scary. I would be scared if something like that happened here or in Canada. Keep the TV off - after 9/11 they found that people who watched the news, even people who weren't in NYC, were at much higher risk for PTSD and trauma issues than people who kept their TVs off. Yeah, and in the DSM-V they changed the definition of PTSD to make sure that such individuals couldn't get a PTSD diagnosis because it's too expensive for insurance companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liveoak Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I am so sorry. It must be particularly devastating for such a peaceful country. I agree. Don't watch the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpladybug Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 It is extremely disturbing to me also that it is Norway. My husband is 2nd generation. In my imagination it is a clean, safe, pristine northern place with fjords and happy people with socialized health care. Obviously it is part of the same world as other European Union states. Very sad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemisia Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'm sorry. It must be really disturbing to have it happen so close to home. And it is independently strange that it happened in a country like Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emettman Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Don't be scared. The odds of ever being involved in a terrorist attack are miniscule. I believe that it is less than the odds of being killed in an airplane crash. It's sad, of course. I'll second that. It's not the instinctive response, especially because the news services don't report risks in proportion, but show a marked bias to the spectacular and the unusual.. 3,000 children suddenly dying of a disease in one place in one day in Africa would be news. 3,000 doing it every day across Africa isn't. The other point is that terrorists can't win if you are not terrified. Disproportionate media coverage and public and political reaction are actually on their side, most of the time. Am I too cool and unemotional? Apologies, but I don't find emotion helps at these times. Let the rat-catchers find the rats responsible and clean up the drains. No fuss, little media coverage. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMarshall Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 It is a very sad time. I have worked with Norwegians and appreciated their warmth and humor. Norway has a reputation of being one of the most generous countries in providing foreign aid to the developing world. Unfortunately the purveyors of terror will take advantage of any generosity in order to sow death and destruction. Best wishes to the People of Norway! a.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
december_brigette Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hi, im so sorry. This is very rare for Norway, and I think the news said it was the worst attack on Norway (ever or in a long time). I first heard this via FB. There is another CB member that lives in Norway and I have a dear college friend that lives in Oslo. Oddly, college friend is on vacation in the states and she is beside herself. much love & peace, db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo 'n dye Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I envy those of you who can refrain from becoming emotional when events like this take place. I have never found much comfort in statistical evidence either, but them I admit I am emotional about all kinds of events and circumstances that others simply shrug away. It takes me days, sometimes weeks, to reach even the semblance of balance. Lilly, I trust you will be more steady and centred than I find myself in this, and similar situations. Thinking of you are everyone else who has been effected and/or affected by this tragedy. Con brio! Indigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justme04 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 It is really scary, so I don't blame you for being scared. I'm really sad to hear about it, too. i wouldn't watch the news, either. but unfortantley, bad stuff happens everywhere, nowhere is exempt or "safe" but it's still disturbing to hear about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emettman Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I envy those of you who can refrain from becoming emotional when events like this take place. Con brio! Indigo It has it's advantages and its disadvantages. It does not mean I take such things lightly, or with just a shrug. And it doesn't mean I don't have the emotions, more that I'm just careful with them, knowing how powerful they can be and how loudly they can shout. Maybe in part it's my unusual framework of thought (autistic spectrum) "... this isn't supposed to happen here" and parallels never really carried weight with me: I've always known there is no totally "safe" place., and that life is matter of odds, not absolutes. Where I had to struggle was in getting my fears in some sort of proportional match with the real risks. (and realising that where I live overall life expectancy is going up: compared to past times the risk of early death is lower, and previous generations managed...) Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Mom Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 mammakanin - I am sorry you are feeling frightened and upset, but what you have seen. The country I live is permanently in state of crime and unimaginable violence - our day to day stuff often leaves me crying in desperation that there really is no hope (though there is, and there are many good people doing what is good on an on-going basis.), I must confess I no longer watch the news or read news on-line because of the horrific images. I do listen to the news on the radio, and I find that though that disturbs me, it does not freak me out as much as seeing it on the television and reading it in the paper. I get profoundly affected when I see the level of violence and crime that is "the norm" in my country, and the more aware of it, the more it feeds my anxiety/paranoia..... <so I am going ostrich in the sand technique at present> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null0trooper Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 this isn't supposed to happen here! It isn't supposed to happen anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crtclms Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 this isn't supposed to happen here! It isn't supposed to happen anywhere. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SashaSue Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 It's very scary. I would be scared if something like that happened here or in Canada. Keep the TV off - after 9/11 they found that people who watched the news, even people who weren't in NYC, were at much higher risk for PTSD and trauma issues than people who kept their TVs off. Yeah, and in the DSM-V they changed the definition of PTSD to make sure that such individuals couldn't get a PTSD diagnosis because it's too expensive for insurance companies. Or becasue it's too insulting for people who actually experienced trauma. Or were, IDK, in the same state as a traumatic event. Not everything upsetting is traumatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 It's very scary. I would be scared if something like that happened here or in Canada. Keep the TV off - after 9/11 they found that people who watched the news, even people who weren't in NYC, were at much higher risk for PTSD and trauma issues than people who kept their TVs off. Yeah, and in the DSM-V they changed the definition of PTSD to make sure that such individuals couldn't get a PTSD diagnosis because it's too expensive for insurance companies. Or becasue it's too insulting for people who actually experienced trauma. Or were, IDK, in the same state as a traumatic event. Not everything upsetting is traumatic. Talk to Anna about her husband. He has PTSD due to workplace bullying and I double dog dare you to argue with her about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SashaSue Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It's very scary. I would be scared if something like that happened here or in Canada. Keep the TV off - after 9/11 they found that people who watched the news, even people who weren't in NYC, were at much higher risk for PTSD and trauma issues than people who kept their TVs off. Yeah, and in the DSM-V they changed the definition of PTSD to make sure that such individuals couldn't get a PTSD diagnosis because it's too expensive for insurance companies. Or becasue it's too insulting for people who actually experienced trauma. Or were, IDK, in the same state as a traumatic event. Not everything upsetting is traumatic. Anna's husband doesn't have PTSD from something he watched on tv, so he's not so much relevant here. Talk to Anna about her husband. He has PTSD due to workplace bullying and I double dog dare you to argue with her about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 What the hell is this shit now?? Goodness, I avoided this thread completely because I don't want to deal with the news right now. How did my husband get dragged into this? My husband has 3 dx actually, PTSD, MDD, and GAD. I didn't dx a psychologist did, through testing, etc. The PTSD was from a specific incident where his boss got less than an inch from his face, was screaming, and had arms raised ready to punch him. He actually had to back away and leave. That meets the criteria for "threatened injury" I believe. The depression and anxiety were from the ongoing, 2 years long basic bullying and stress and whatnot, the bullying has NOTHING to do with the specific PTSD incident. It was extremely frightening for Mr. A., not so much because he was going to get hit (though he was scared of that and his boss was a big guy) but because Mr. A was also afraid he was going to defend himself and end up in jail, and he didn't want to do that to his family-- also meets serious harm criteria. Does that clear up this mess? The guy didn't just psychologically torture him into depression and anxiety, he almost hit him and would have if Mr. A had not gone into flight mode (NOT his usual mode). Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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