Hellcat13 Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 I have posted this in the weighty side effects board too - but with my meds and the such I want to try the Atkins diet. mainly cause it is no where near as restrictive as some diets and I have problems with controlled eating. Anyone else tried it and what has happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 I tried atkins earlier this year to get rid of my risperdal-induced massive weight gain and lost about 40 pounds. Its a great diet as you never get hungry however I had to quit it because it wrecked my kidneys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnSunshine Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 I used it to lose at 30 pounds after having my second child. It was great for me because it's everything I like...except for the no carbs...that about killed me. It's hard to make it through the first 2-3 days but after that you're not hungry at all...and I've NEVER seen fat melt off like it did with this diet. Usually you lose the weight on the scale but have to wait to see the difference...but with Atkins, wow, those pounds just disappeared immediately. Another great thing about this diet is that you can actually "see" that it's working...when you pee and see that you're in ketosis. For me that was immediate gratification. I've tried it a few times since then but just can't seem to stay on it...it's like I become obsessed with wanting to eat...even more than before I went on the diet. Anyway I LOVED the diet and saw results but I have heard that it can really hurt some people. I do know that Dr. Atkins "tweaked" the diet before his death to eliminate the undesirable side effects so it's probably safer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 yep, I also lost weight on the Atkins diet... but my SO and I decided to modify it some to better suit our tastes. and we still lost weight on it. BTDT as far as comments on the weight loss. if people only knew how ignorant it shows them to be and how much it hurts I got to the point that I would snap something back at them some would say sorry, most were offended that I said something to them! spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastafarian Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Lotsa science about how Atkins is harmful. potassium depletion, eleveated blood and urine calcium, electrolyte disruptions. Potassium is important for neurological function (propogates action potentials allowing neural synaptic transmissions). Calcium is important for muscle contraction. Disruptions in either can lead to cardiac arrythmia. Over the long term calcium depletion may lead to osteoperosis. Actually a low carb diet, the ketogenic diet, is used to treat epilepsy. That's how much it affects your brain. If you want a safe, surefire diet: decrease energy intake and increase energy output. That is, eat less (but maintain nutrition), exercise more. It is safe, it will work. Everything else is either unsafe, or doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit37 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I've been on the atkins since march. lost 35 lbs. i think you have to be reasonable with it, so many people gave it a bad reputation because they think it gives you free reign to eat all the bacon you want. giving up the carbs was a bit hard, but yeah, a few days later it got easier. i know i am in better health getting the sugar & refined flours out of my system. i started depakote er - while it says that it's less likely to have weight gain, i was worried, but so far, so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caligatia Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I lost 70 lbs. on Atkins when I was in my early 20's, but I hallucinated frequently while on the diet. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianca Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Another great thing about this diet is that you can actually "see" that it's working...when you pee and see that you're in ketosis. For me that was immediate gratification. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What does ketosis look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyNormal Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I've done Atkins more than once over the years. It works, but I don't know anyone who can stay on it forever, and when you go off it -- look out!! massive regain! Another problem with Atkins is constipation. I vote for the Zone diet. It's really healthy. My mom has diabetes, and her diet is pretty much like the Zone. It's calorie restrictive if you are wanting to lose weight, but I have found that if I lower my calories for three weeks, then eat a bit more during my period, I can stay with the program pretty well. The other key is salad salad salad! ! And, oh yeah, I almost forgot: Zone Bars! Some of the flavors are really yummy, and really satisfy the sweet tooth thing for me. -- Abby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve@3AM Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Another one is Dr. Perricone's Fat Loss diet. (If available near you, you can check out the current issue of Life Extension magazine for extended article. Dr. Perricone is on cover.) I haven't tried that specific diet but did try other eating plan for skin care and found it did improve my skin AND I lost fair amount of weight and was not hungry. I like the philosophy behind his approach. (cutting inflamation. it applies to many different health areas.) Definitely worth checking out just for that information. I THINK it may be a bit like Zone but not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 If you are on Topamax or any other med that works your kidneys (note: not everyone loses weight on Topamax, I didn't until I started eating right).... DO NOT GO ON THE ATKINS DIET!!!! The weight you lose will not be worth the risk to your health. The Atkins diet is *HARD* on your kidneys, it's *not healthy* period. *NONE* of these fad diets are. I agree with Pastafarian: If you want a safe, surefire diet: decrease energy intake and increase energy output. That is, eat less (but maintain nutrition), exercise more. It is safe, it will work. Everything else is either unsafe, or doesn't work. That's the *only* way to lose weight. I know of what I speak. Be safe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazychic Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 You should try the South Beach Diet first before you do Atkins. It's like the "safer" or "less restrictive" version of Atkins- doesn't eliminate as many carboyhydrates as the Atkins does...cuz YOUR BODY NEEDS CARBS! They are your "primary energy source"...no wonder why you need 6-8 servings as it says on the food guide pyramid. Plus doing the Atkins makes you crave carbs in the worst way- which can lead to a huge binge on stuff- which is NOT good (I should know.. ) And like someone else says- if you go on it and then go off it you will gain back weight so fast...the best thing to do is just know that you will loose weight if your output is greater than your intake. Burn more calories then what you eat and you will loose weight just like you will have done on the Atkins (and you can eat carbs this way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcat13 Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 thanks guys/girls for your help. I think it is just that I have tried everything else to lose weight (except plastic surgery) and no matter how little I eat and how much I excercise I cannot get thin!!!!!! Grrrrr, I am a size 14 to 16 and it is just annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 thanks guys/girls for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve@3AM Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I think you err in considering everything a "fad" diet. There are many ways to eat that are more healthful than the way the average person eats. Is the standard junk food "manner of eating" (as opposed to "diet") the only appropriate way?? Is following the FDA food groups? (which are known by many nutritionists to be inappropriate.) Just because something is called a "diet" does not make it inappropriate - even if it is popular. It would be better to look at the dietary suggestions they contain before condemning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I think you err in considering everything a "fad" diet. There are many ways to eat that are more healthful than the way the average person eats. Is the standard junk food "manner of eating" (as opposed to "diet") the only appropriate way?? Is following the FDA food groups? (which are known by many nutritionists to be inappropriate.) Just because something is called a "diet" does not make it inappropriate - even if it is popular. It would be better to look at the dietary suggestions they contain before condemning them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Atkins has been a fad diet since it came out in my mother's time (she's 68, and was on the Atkins diet when it was all about eating "starch" and cutting back on red meat - my how times change). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve@3AM Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I agree with you on Atkins. I just thought you were labeling all of the popular diet approaches as "fads" and therefore bad. Some are very good and can give "structure" to some who need it. Sorry if I read something into your post that wasn't intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halation Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 i went on atkins, followed it to a T, and managed to gain ten pounds on induction alone. and i felt fucking awful. then i went back to living on french fries, chocolate, pasta and beer, and just exercised a lot, and lost fifteen. metabolisms are weird, but portion control works for everyone, provided your endocrine system is in working order. for what it's worth, it's the ketosis part of atkins that scares me. you don't want to be in ketosis. it is not healthy to be in ketosis. when people go into ketosis, they need medical intervention, and to make your body do that intentionally is fucked up, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit37 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 A diet is defined by what you put in your mouth... it can be healthy or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit37 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Here's a link going both ways. It'd help to put the link in, wouldn't it?? http://www.psycheducation.org/hormones/Insulin/Atkins.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyNormal Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Rabbit, That's an interesting link. It got me thinking about something. For as long as I've known her, my mother was an overweight carbo-loader (she snacked all day on her secrect stash of cookies and other crap). Mom was also a depressed, abusive psycho-bitch-from-hell for that entire time. In the last few years, she finally developed TypeII diabetes, and (bless her heart) has stuck to a strict very healthy diet for diabetes ever since she was diagnosed. She and my Dad now eat fresh food that he grows, have salmon twice a week, olive oil, fresh garlic, -- the whole nine yards. She has not had to take insulin so far. A few weeks ago my DH and I went to visit them, and I couldn't believe the change in my mother's personality. She was sweet and kind, and bitched much less (and then mostly from habit, I think). Even though she has crippling arthritis and is in constant pain, she's not depressed about it. We thought that the changes in her personality were either from brain changes related to aging, or else her facing her own sense of mortality. But now I wonder -- could it be the diet? ? ? I know that diet can make a difference, but these are really dramatic changes -- it's like she's on really good psych-meds (but she isn't). Anyway, I just thought I'd share that. -- Abby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit37 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Thanks for sharing that, Abby. I know I always felt worse when I ate too much sugar... but the stuff *is* addicting, too. It may not be the total picture, of course... I had a major depressive episode several months after I started Atkins... but I know I eat a lot better, and that HAS to be good!!!! And my dad was diagnosed as borderline diabetic recently. Hence another reason for change.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prefers to remain Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 I recently read something that said you should do the bulk amount of your grocery shopping around the perimeter of the store - fruits & veggies, meats, dairy, etc. Avoid the processed middle aisles as much as possible. Makes sense. Hey, usually the "good stuff" like quality olive oil is at the end of the aisle anyway! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I read this too! I follow it as well, and only venture into the aisles when I *need* something like mayo or something for a recipe. Not only that... It saves you oodles of money. This is good advice... and I agree with patheral and everyone who advocates portion control... Everything in moderation. That's what any good doctor will tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomby Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 i did the atkins thing and lost quite a bit of weight and was really happy about it. after a while though i was craving ice cream all the time and i thought i would get one pint. just one pint. well that opened the floodgates and i gained it all back! eating all that meat can be pretty disgusting. i dont wanna do it again. one thing i would try is that hoodia stuff they had on 60 minutes. that stuff is supposed to take away your hunger all day. you can get it on ebay. its from an african plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazychic Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 one thing i would try is that hoodia stuff they had on 60 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 one thing i would try is that hoodia stuff they had on 60 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomby Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 i can see that some people here have been burned buying diet pills lol. i saw the original 60 minutes show about hoodia and i thought to myself that i would try it if they ever got it to market at a reasonable price. well guess what. they've got it in capsules at a reasonable price now. i would jump on it but i saw it on ebay after i started taking topamax and i'm losing a LOT of weight on topamax - over 30 pounds in about a month and a half. i didn't say you can lose weight without eating fewer calories than you burn. some of us can use some help with the eating part and that's where hoodia would come in. i said i would try it and i would. whether anybody else would is up to them but theres no reason to get all worked up over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withing Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 i can see that some people here have been burned buying diet pills lol. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not me... I've never wasted my money or time taking the stupid things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomby Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 the one i was looking at on ebay was this one: [Edited: no advertising please. A.M. ] the seller has 99.7% feedback and theres a lot of feedback for the hoodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Sorry for ressurecting this topic. Well I am back on Atkins even though it knackered my kidneys the last time because it seems that I only face two alternatives right now: Be on the Atkins diet (its the only diet for me that kills hunger) or binge and vomit on carbs like a maniac (Im BPD - I go to extremes!), and I figure that Atkins is probably (marginally?) better for my health. Plus I find that Atkins actually stops my terrible cravings for alcohol, in short it does what Campral fails to do. My excessive alcohol intake was wrecking my kidneys anyway and this way I get some discipline into my life (plus the pounds are melting away) and stop 2 terribly self destructive behaviours at once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit37 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Sorry for ressurecting this topic. Well I am back on Atkins Blackbird, since you are resurrecting the topic, I'll re-reply I'm on Atkins, and lost a bunch of weight. Never felt better, physically (haha) in my life. However, I *don't* believe in the eat-all-you-want bacon philosophy et al, and I eat plenty of fruits. It's all about just plain common sense, really. And I eat a high-fiber cereal once a day for the fiber, and I feel confident that I get enough fiber from the other foods I eat. I try to eat them in as natural a state as possible. Husband and I were "bad" during the holiday season, and consumed far more carbs. and yeah, I started craving them badly again!!!! Gained 8 lbs. I believe in it. Oh, and I just read in the paper that Atkins is bringing back the shakes and bars (ick, I don't like those), and have re-structured from their bankruptcy. Best wishes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Rabbit37 Posted Today, 03:28 PM QUOTE(blackbird @ Jan 12 2006, 08:51 AM) Sorry for ressurecting this topic. Well I am back on Atkins Blackbird, since you are resurrecting the topic, I'll re-reply I'm on Atkins, and lost a bunch of weight. Never felt better, physically (haha) in my life. However, I *don't* believe in the eat-all-you-want bacon philosophy et al, and I eat plenty of fruits. It's all about just plain common sense, really. And I eat a high-fiber cereal once a day for the fiber, and I feel confident that I get enough fiber from the other foods I eat. I try to eat them in as natural a state as possible. Husband and I were "bad" during the holiday season, and consumed far more carbs. and yeah, I started craving them badly again!!!! Gained 8 lbs. I believe in it. Oh, and I just read in the paper that Atkins is bringing back the shakes and bars (ick, I don't like those), and have re-structured from their bankruptcy Oh those shakes and bars are the most vile creations! Far better to just eat fruit, I had a nice bowl of raspberries and cream for dessert tonight I had bad bad bad carb cravings for the first week on induction but its amazing how they melt away after a week or so! Lets hear it for Dr Atkins (God rest his soul...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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