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And which is the more sound decision?

- Taking the ill person away from the public forum to someplace where they will not be disturbed.  And not allow them to return until they are better?

- Or allow that ill person to run about the forum, up and down the steps, railing and accosting the good citizenry going about their business, picking fights over imagined wrongs?  And for the caretaker to join in these nonsensical fights?

A.M.

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What seems interesting to me, is people who are posting complaints on CB, about those who saved the board from being destroyed.  If the mods hadn't kept the board from being deleted, who would you be able complain to? 

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The "sociologicall theory" may be very accurate. However that does not mean the conclusions reached - how the sociology was applied - are.

The last few paragraphs of the initial post reflect this. What IS "social injustice"? Republicans and Democrats for example and Communists and Socialists and Christians etc have been arguing about that for years. What IS the greater good. The way we individually determine those things is through much the same process as is described in this "sociology". We all reach different conclusions based on different ideas of "exclusions" etc. (I'm not intending this to be an extensive "analysis" of the original post.)

The final few paragraphs abandon the analytical approach and insert personal feelings that are not conclusions that can be drawn from the stated analysis. All the parts of the review of the sociology apply - at some level great or small - to all people including the poster. That's not a condemnation of anyone. It just means we all think we are right and there really is NO OBJECTIVE VIEWPOINT.

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oh god.

Against overwhelming evidence that adding more words to this schism is not going to settle anything, I'm going to do so anyway.  Sigh.

6, your citations about people's behavior on the Internet are apt and make sense. But they don't solve the problem. The same type of behavioral aberrations happen behind the wheel of a car, too. Ordinarily courteous, compassionate and caring people will act like absolute asses when ensconsed in their big, metal alter egos.

Neither of us (to my knowledge) actually took part in the chat sessions or have seen the chat logs of all the crap that went on between Kassi and Navy. At this point, I don't know that what started all of this is even pertinent. Hell, at this point I would have a hard time believing that anyone could state precisely what happened. It doesn't matter anymore.

Around the same time that Kassi was laid low by something that resembled lupus and Jerod posted Kassiane Needs Your Emotional Support thread (September 20), Navy and Kassi had some kind of falling out. Accusations flew, feelings were hurt, defensiveness grew to new highs. This should have been a personal issue. Instead Jerod and Kass demanded public apologies and wouldn't accept them when given, and Jerod threatened to shut down CrazyBoards to protect Kassi.

Without a doubt, CrazyBoards was founded by J&K. But over the past 18 months, it has become much more than that. There are over 2,000 members now and tens of thousands of posts. Many members and moderators contributed major chunks of time and creativity, not only on the forum names and descriptions, but on research, giving and receiving support, making the place live. It is a lifeline to many of us. So when its existence is threatened, people are going to act to protect it.

It is absolutely understandable that most people, if forced to choose, would remain loyal to a friend/loved one rather than to an Internet bulletin board.

It is equally understandable that the users of the board want it to remain intact.

This all just sucks. Both sides are right and both sides are wrong. We're all human. We all have issues. We all have mental health issues. Crap is going to happen. Crap has happened. The best we all can do now is find a way to move on. And it's hard. Because moving on when you're still feeling wronged is difficult, to put it mildly. But we have to. For survival. And for doing the right thing. After all, we all got together here because we suffer from some of the same problems, and we stayed because we liked eachother and the personality of the board, as prickly as it could get occasionally.

Peace.

In Our Time. (hah!)

(please)

Greeny

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As Greenyflower notes,

There is "overwhelming evidence that adding more words to this schism is not going to settle anything"

Not only will it not settle anything, it violates the fundamental rule, "Do no harm." So, even though some of the "sociological" issues raised are interessting, and in other circumstances would merit comment, I ask all of you again.

Please, let's just stop.

tom

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People saying that an issue is "dead" and telling 6 to move on is insensitive and frankly  idiotic.  6 believes the issue is not dead, and frankly his post is evidence enough.  This is a public board, where, as far as I know, people are encouraged to speak honestly and without fear of reprisal.  The responses to 6 are deplorable, since the only theme i can see is the desire to say that nobody wants to listen to him, but they do want to tell him that.  I recall 6 saying something absout exclusion.  Good job folks, you're doing a bang up job.

I know I'm not the intended audience 6.  I've chosen a side and that's ignorance, meaning I'm glad CB is still around but have no authority from which to comment (knowledge type authority, not power type authority).  Linger as long as you like on the subject.  If CB is worth saving, then nobody here has the right to say otherwise. 

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I sorta think that's a little too broad of a generalization about "the only theme you can see". Maybe you should go back and re-read all the posts. However I do agree that if someone still feels there is something to say it shows a need and should be heard. As has been said many times you can always just ignore the post yourself and move on if you don't like it.

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well said Pastafarian.  6 has every right to speak her/his mind and voice his/her opinion on this board, whether it agrees with the commonality or not.  People who do not agree with 6's opinion have the right not to read or respond to the post, or to respond with their own rebuttal.  or, they may choose to use the ignore function, or not read this thread, or write up 4 page commentaries.....

my point, we do have the right to think, believe and express our opinions.  the only condition i would add is 'politely'. 

we can disagree with each other, we can ask each other to stop, as a courtesy, but i don't think we can tell someone "your wrong, so shut up and quit expressing yourself".  we can say "i think this is hurting the boards" but not "i'm telling you you're not allowed to say what you feel".

get the difference?

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I must have ADD in addition to my dysthymia. I got lost in all the erudition of the post.

Does something suck that should not suck, or what?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Mr. ApeStuff,

Oh, I shouldn't...

Oh, cripes... I just can't help it!

I must have passive- aggressive syndrome!

(I can be so bad)

Oh, Sweet. Jesus...Save me now!

Yes... Mr. ApeStuff...

Something did suck about that post that should not have...

With all that cutt'in & paste'in of magazine articles...

we didn't one magazine picture to go along with it!

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The saddest thing of all is that only Steve and Pasta "got" what was being said.

The rest of the "views"...

View the decompensation of CrazyBoards.

6

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Heya,

That's a bit harsh.

I think it's likely lots of us "got it" but just thought, Hmm, that's interesting, and had nothing to add.

--ncc--

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The saddest thing of all is that only Steve and Pasta "got" what was being said.

The rest of the "views"...

View the decompensation of CrazyBoards.

6

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Heya,

That's a bit harsh.

I think it's likely lots of us "got it" but just thought, Hmm, that's interesting, and had nothing to add.

--ncc--

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ok, then.  Point taken.  Portion of statement retracted.

6

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