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Hi Everyone!!

   I'm Olive, I'm new! Thanks for inviting me into this awesome community.  I've been sitting here for hours before dawn, feeling great and well rested after three hours sleep, wondering how much sleep is enough sleep for a bipolar person?  I feel like a million dollars on no sleep when I am lit up, but I know there are consequences.   Any other Bipolar folk experience lack of desire for sleep between mood swings?

Thanks!

Love,

Olive

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Three hours sleep isn't enough. You could be going into a manic episode, but at least you are getting some sleep and feeling rested. You might want to contact your care team to get in before it gets out of hand. Lacking desire of sleep is pretty "normal" when the moods are going up!

 

Welcome to the community! Hope to see you around. Let us know how you're doing. Feel free to pop into chat, start a blog, browse the forums some more. We don't bite!

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I too am in the middle of a manic. Went a month with only 4 hours of sleep each night. But eventually I was exhausted and still couldn't sleep. Thats when all the chatter in my head got so bad. Finally got some sleep with the help of some ativan until my med tweak started kicking in. After a full two months I am finally getting about 6 hours a night

As the OP said...enjoy that you are feeling rested right now but I say call your pdoc before it goes on too long and gets to that not happy kind of mania.

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Just wanted to say welcome to CB :)

 

I'll echo what the others have said, I think you should contact your DR, and maybe for a possible med tweak.

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I usually sleep 5 hours or less each night. Six hours is a very good nights sleep for me. The thing about saying everyone needs 8 hours of sleep a night is a suggestion for the majority of the population. I don't get concerned until I get 3 hours or less a night. I'll let it go for one or two nights but if it's longer than that, it's time for a med change. It's really hard to take them at that point in time--well, at least for me. I'm feeling pretty good and I'm getting all sorts of stuff done. The problem is, if I don't get it stopped at that point, it'll go to full mania and I know from experience, that is not somewhere I want to go. So, I take extra meds until sleep is back under control.

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Hi Olive, welcome aboard!

 

have to agree with everyone else, that three hours of sleep + feeling like a million bucks, sends off alarm bells. For me, getting eight hours and going to bed and getting up at the same time every day is basically mandatory. I haven't had a true episode since getting on my current cocktail, but like sylvan, I recognize the not wanting to sleep as a signal to jack up my meds until the lid's back on. My pdoc writes my prescription so I always have a few extra pills on hand for that purpose.

 

If your not sleeping goes on for more than two or three nights, definitely get in touch with your pdoc. Taking an add-on for a little while till things cool down is totally normal.

 

Let us know how it turns out!

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Wow, this is such a wild experience, I have never been involved in a mental health community, but have been mentally ill for most of my life.  Thank you so much for your responses.  it means the world.  

​Sleep is definitely a huge trigger for an upswing, I can always catch a glimpse of the mania before it swoops in by how little sleep I am getting and how much money I am spending or weight I am losing.  It's so odd how something as cold and destructive as mania can just be like, such an everyday, quotidian thing. 

Do anyone else shop like crazy or is that one of my terrible afflictions alone?

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I';ve had 3 hours sleep in the last 3 days now :D i'm pumped probably wont sleep tonight either. But i'm non medicated. Apparently this behaviour isn't normal but for us it is

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Compulsive/impulsive shopping is a big mania indicator. It's pretty common from what I gather. At least, the urge to buy a ton of stuff is another signal to me that I'm going high.

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Yes spending thousands of dollars in days can be a symptom of mania. It's one of my symptoms.

Along with needing little to no sleep.

Call your pdoc before things get really bad.

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When I'm manic I need less sleep but I still need 4-5 hours.  Those are broken up but still that amount.  I think I'm weird.  

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Welcome to CB.

 

Sleep is a very good indicator for me too, I guess it depends on the person, for me, 7h is standard, 5h is 'getting dangerous' and 2h is mania. In the end, it is not about absolute numbers I guess but rather changes from standard. I don't have a big shopping problem, for me that's a hypo thing, I have a hypersexuality problem.

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