water Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Various gender options instead of either male, female or secret would be wonderful, non? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Fill in the blank gender. It'd be nice. But I think that's part of the software thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Fill in the blank gender. It'd be nice. But I think that's part of the software thingy. I was wondering about that. edit:I was thinking along the lines of FB. A list or something but I like fill in the blank better. I think there are as many genders as people. Edited March 11, 2014 by water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpladybug Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Water, I was listening to NPR and thought about you Dave Barry, humorist, is in town his newest book is about raising his 14 year old daughter he was soooo funny and I thought about you and your daughter he took his daughter to a Justin Bieber concert and she pushed through the crowd to the stage and threw her Bat Mitsvah (sp?) invitation very funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's the software. I requested more options a few years ago and the developers made fun of my and pointed me to the wikipedia article on biological gender after I pointed them to the one on genderqueer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's the software. I requested more options a few years ago and the developers made fun of my and pointed me to the wikipedia article on biological gender after I pointed them to the one on genderqueer. You're kidding? What jerks. thank you for standing up for gender equality on the IP.board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimako Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's the software. I requested more options a few years ago and the developers made fun of my and pointed me to the wikipedia article on biological gender after I pointed them to the one on genderqueer. As a female web developer, this surprises me not at all. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiaB Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's the software. I requested more options a few years ago and the developers made fun of my and pointed me to the wikipedia article on biological gender after I pointed them to the one on genderqueer. I hate (really hate) to bring up crazymeds, but as far as I can tell, they're on the same system, and they have six gender options other than male and female available under their "my settings". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's the software. I requested more options a few years ago and the developers made fun of my and pointed me to the wikipedia article on biological gender after I pointed them to the one on genderqueer. I hate (really hate) to bring up crazymeds, but as far as I can tell, they're on the same system, and they have six gender options other than male and female available under their "my settings". Thanks. I'll ask Jerod how they are doing that. As far as I'm concerned, any bad blood between us and CM is way in the past btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiaB Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 As far as I'm concerned, any bad blood between us and CM is way in the past btw. Okay, thanks - I didn't want to offend. I have an account there for the sake of it, but prefer the way things are run here. I attempted a screenshot of their gender breakdown for you, but apparently that's too complicated for my brain to do right now. But it is: Not telling Female Intersex Male None/Neuter Other Transgender FTM Transgender MTF Transgender NOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMan Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Intersex i first saw this as an acronym added on glbt elsewhere and asked what it meant, i just got told "intersexed" so i asked what that meant and i got yelled at [a lot] and called many unsavoury things anyone care to shed some light? forgive my ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender fairy Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 some people are born with parts of both genders. I believe this is intersex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMan Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 some people are born with parts of both genders. I believe this is intersex. thanks, i did google and wound up more confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 some people are born with parts of both genders. I believe this is intersex. thanks, i did google and wound up more confused I always thought it referred to people who had previously been called hermaphrodites, but maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender fairy Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 yes, hermaphrodites/intersex are people born with characteristics of both genders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMan Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 yes, hermaphrodites/intersex are people born with characteristics of both genders i think that is both sexes, not genders if you do work this out VE, or even if not, maybe a definition list could go with it because it is confusing for some i hope that doesn't come across wrong, i'm just naive on these things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavender fairy Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 oh, you are right, both sexes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 some people are born with parts of both genders. I believe this is intersex. thanks, i did google and wound up more confused I always thought it referred to people who had previously been called hermaphrodites, but maybe not. REad Middlesex. Excellent book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirazh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 You do not always have visible parts of "both" to be considered intersex. There can be things to do with hormones, invisible-to-the-eye bodyparts, and more. I would love more than two gender options. 'Course, I'd love something other than "trans FtM" or "trans NOS" or WTF eewww but it'd still be better... lesigh. either way I make do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiaB Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Course, I'd love something other than "trans FtM" or "trans NOS" or WTF eewww but it'd still be better... Those were just options chosen by CM, probably with some sort of discussion with their members. If it turns out it's possible to add additional options to CB's list, then I don't see why VE would have to be beholden to the CM list. And if I use any more acronyms in this post, I may have to stick a pen in my eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Course, I'd love something other than "trans FtM" or "trans NOS" or WTF eewww but it'd still be better... Those were just options chosen by CM, probably with some sort of discussion with their members. If it turns out it's possible to add additional options to CB's list, then I don't see why VE would have to be beholden to the CM list. And if I use any more acronyms in this post, I may have to stick a pen in my eye. So why not do a blank field, and members can fill it in themselves? edit: we can offer a list of suggestions Edited March 12, 2014 by water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirazh Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I prefer blank field, if possible. Best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mim Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 VE, just want to kick in that you rock for sticking up for this. It's much appreciated. I don't mind the "not telling" option, but if others make it on board, will use them with a smile on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurmaurils Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Adding more has my vote. It may be something they hacked in, but without looking at the source... :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirazh Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) Discussions have been had, greater options will be added. Keep your eye out! Edit: Woooo, 2000th post! Edit2: Trust me, I wanted a fill-in-the-blank and wasn't the only one, but we literally can't set that up. Then I wanted "check all that apply" but apparently we can't do that either. *kicks software* But there will be more options. Huzzah! Edited March 14, 2014 by Mirazh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mim Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 This is so great! Thanks, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 This is so great! Thanks, everyone! **lifts glass of champagne to everyone** Will there be a 'none of the above'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirazh Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I believe we went with "not telling." Some things were condensed into a singular term otherwise we'd have a huge list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 I believe we went with "not telling." Some things were condensed into a singular term otherwise we'd have a huge list. ah. I was just thinking of myself. I am female, but yet.....sometimes I wonder if there is a bit of male in me. I don't mind telling, I just don't have a 'term' for me. :-} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirazh Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You might be pleased with the options that will be made available. Again, we had to condense some things down, rather, group some identities into a single term, because believe me I could pull up one gigantic list of individual gender identities but I think both the software and VE might kill me or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Thanks VE for doing this, and thanks to all the mods that worked on the options. I've seen them and I think everyone will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirazh Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) Yeah I'm pretty excited/happy. This discussion came up (again... I know I asked a long time ago and I doubt I was the only one ever, but it wasn't possible with the software at the time) right after I'd spent the whole day filling out Social Assistance paperwork that kept making me fill out "pick one of the two: male/female" checkboxes. So it was an instant pick-me-up, seriously. I know my ideal would still be fill-in-the-blank, like I said. And I'd honestly love to have a gigantic fucking list that had every possible identity I could think of and dig up from the depths of the Internet, you know? Also there's that thing about it being a group effort and not up only to me. ;P Oh and the software limitations. So some stuff's not feasible. So we've been doing our best to make it inclusive, broad-spectrum, not super-long, and easy to understand. Quite the balance you understand. Edited March 15, 2014 by Mirazh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurmaurils Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Woot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurmaurils Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Any word in when this will be implemented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Elvis Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Ugh. As soon as I remember to do at a time when I'm able to do it. I've not been braining real well the past couple of weeks. The start up side effects of Strattera last for fucking ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurmaurils Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 No pressure... it just seemed there was a flurry of activity, and then silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malachite Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I just read all this. I am so excited about the multiplicitous genders! Thanks VE and Mirazh and all others who participated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMan Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 if anyone is interested, NSW australia just passed law that you can now be recognised legally as neither female nor male. I think other states have similar, and it is fairly low grade "xx" in place of "m" or 'f' on your license, but thought i'd mention it after hearing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpladybug Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 As far as I'm concerned, any bad blood between us and CM is way in the past btw. Okay, thanks - I didn't want to offend. I have an account there for the sake of it, but prefer the way things are run here. I attempted a screenshot of their gender breakdown for you, but apparently that's too complicated for my brain to do right now. But it is: Not telling Female Intersex Male None/Neuter Other Transgender FTM Transgender MTF Transgender NOS that is very comprehensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooster Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I would prefer we have "cis-gendered" so as not to perpetuate the idea that trans is "other". But apparently "cis" isn't as widely known/used. My argument is that if we are offering people space to say they transitioned/are transitioning/are trans, we are providing a better opportunity for self identification, but also requesting trans people reveal more information than cis people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I never knew about the 'cis' term. Makes complete sense. Discussing gender options for a mental health forum is so cool. Gender is unique, like personality and chemistry. Unfortunately most of society cannot take the sex out of gender. I am bigender. My Sexual orientation definitely goes in the dick direction but my gender is mostly male. Understanding this has been a revelation particularly with my computer work history. Always the only woman in male dominated work. I act like The Big Man in this full figured feminine body with the mouth and humour of a guy but very sensitive and vulnerable, easily teased and hurt. This confuses people. There is also third gender. Neither man nor woman. I like that one. This I found on Wikipedia. Very interesting. "An alternative to androgyny is gender-role transcendence: the view that individual competence should be conceptualized on a personal basis rather than on the basis of masculinity, femininity, or androgyny" For some unknown reason while eating lunch today my girl points to these parts of her body and asked if I knew what they were called. Vagina - non-electronic cell phone Butt - butunia Boobs - bacoobayes She made all this up. Then she asks if I know the word for a man's 'thingie'. Spaghetti and meatballs. omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooster Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 My sexual orientation is very much 'gender transcendent'... For a long time I've said, "it's the person not the parts". Looking at one's own gender identity in similar manners can be interesting as well, I think. Spaghetti and meatballs, eh? I'll have to ask Mr W about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I think I know what she means about the 'cell phone'. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freetodowhatever Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I agree with bpladybug regarding choice. We are what we are and have free will. Not everyone will agree, but I understand you want to put down who you are. Some people feel strong about there identity. Respect to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickler Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Gender...it's between your ears. ...Senor El Vez will fix eet when he fix eet... Edited April 7, 2014 by Stickler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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