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when you SI regularly, how do you keep from SI'ing while intoxicated or "messed up" (jebus, I hate that term)?


we all know alcohol -- or other drugs, whatever they may be -- may cause a person to lose their sense of intelligence, reluctance, balance, and even general awareness.


so how do you consume whatever and not self-injure?




...or do you just not?


have you stopped "using" because your SI got too terrible while doing so??




(also, if this belongs in the Substance Abuse group, please move it there.  it's just for me tonight, it's the that SI is the heavier topic.  so for me, it belongs here.)

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IMO, being intoxicated could potentially increase the possibility of SI, and I only speak from personal experience.  Things like ethanol (alcohol), cannabis, ketamine, and PCP are outright anesthetics that protect us from pain and can cause us to self-injure without our physical senses realizing that SI has happened.


I (thanking the powers that were with me) managed to stop traditional SI in 2005 at the age of 21.  I know for a fact that (my only 'drug' experience), ethanol (alcohol) numbs the SI pain.  Which can be sort of counter-intuitive, as some (including myself) who SI (or SIed in the past) actually want to feel the physical pain rather than the emotional.


My personal SI experiences actually occurred whilst not intoxicated.  I really wanted the physical pain to outbalance the emotional.  No point in "bleeding out the pain" unless one could feel it... at least that's how I felt 10 years ago.


If you have issues with SI whilst intoxicated, I strongly recommend that the 'weapons' of SI, whatever they could be, be put away during periods of said intoxication.  Alternately, you could moderate your intoxication, and I particularly suggest this route if you believe the numbness imbued by intoxication is the cause of your SI.


Not that I advocate SI in any event.  I realize what I did was pretty wrongful upon myself, and I have physically visible scars to bear it.


Best wishes to you.

Edited by LikeMinded

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I used to have a pretty significant problem with cutting when I was drunk. I did the worst damage to myself while drinking, too, because, as LikeMinded said, the pain was lessened, and I didn't care for what pain I did feel. My choices boiled down to either quitting drinking, or quitting SI. For awhile, I quit drinking. Then, once I got my SI under better control, and felt somewhat confident in my new coping skills, I allowed myself to drink occasionally again, and found I was able to keep from cutting...mostly. I've slipped a couple times. 


It has been my experience that they couldn't coexist for me without the drinking making the cutting worse. 

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I have cut while and after drinking.  Don't want to do that again.  Cut hard and deep.  Mostly I try to distract myself or insist that I tell myself the truth of a situation, which often is NOT what I'm thinking at the time.  It's hard not to drink (or whatever makes you high) when you are at your lowest and want to self-harm.  Just know that doing that may make you feel worse than ever or seriously injure yourself.  Take care.

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@LikeMinded nah, the SI totally came first.  it just gets worse with intoxication.

and how do you hide the items during substance abuse??


@Mim  so you did have to choose between the two.  thank you for sharing,  :)


@enna thanks, luv.  I'll try to keep that in mind.

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Hi there theshadowrose, good to hear more details of what came first!


I would suggest... if you want to hide the weapons of SI, do so *prior* to tripping/getting drunk.  As in, almost make it a ritual to put away and/or lock up all knives and other SI instruments prior to going on a drug or alcohol binge.


Of course, there does exist a cohort of us that doesn't get all that psychologically affected by alcohol/drugs and would find the weapons in any event.


But IMO it's worth a try if you're trying to reduce your SI!


And on the other hand, reducing your intake of drugs and alcohol can also help.  I'm not going to sit here saying that you should be a complete teetotaler (hell, I'm not -- I drink socially very well, in fact!).  It's just important to understand that drugs/alcohol should be done in moderation (and of course legality).

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Please let us know if it helps!  And of course, remember to be intoxicated only in moderation; it seems you're more susceptible to the psych effects of intoxication (which, with even the weapons hidden, could lead to great embarrassment).


<random story>

Embarrassment as in... a friend of mine got drunk at a party and started ranting to us about how he was similar, simultaneously, to a pomegranate and an asteroid.  Don't ask how that happened, but he's one of the people who are susceptible psych-wise, methinks.

</random story>

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I intentionally chose not to drink more than a glass of alcohol because I know I struggle with self-injury.  I figure I need my inhibitions to make sure I don't give into my urge to cut.  To me, the risk isn't worth it.  I'd also imagine it would be harder to not get carried away with hurting yourself when drunk if your reasons for wanting to hurt yourself have to do with disliking yourself, low self-esteem, etc.

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Avoid intoxication. Avoid lowering your inhibitions and avoid anything that lowers impulse control.


Last time I self injured I was wasted as fuck and I required 18 stitches. I bled so much it scared the crap out of me. I hurt myself because I didn't want to bother anyone and I ended up having to bother someone to take me to ER anyways. I should have just reached out. Since I was messed up I was sloppier, riskier, cut deeper, longer, and caused more damage. 

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