snickers Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) I haven't found much help on this forum as of yet. I admit that it's highly unlikely due to symptomatic general behavior patterns, but I wish some more people with ASPD/psychopathic tendencies would post on here.Entonces, I've researched quite a few sites in search of not only basic daily behavior patterns, but, more to the point, specific daily interactions that most sociopaths/psychopaths "put up with" to get on with things.Being a music buff, one of the very few things I've been looking for includes music that sociopaths/psychopaths truly identify with, lyrically (or even aesthetically). As far as the internet has taken me, I can't say it extends past anime, which is incredibly sad, to say the least.So! Please let me be the first to post one of my favourites, in the ambitious hope that someone will reciprocate. To reiterate, this is to better understand myself, with the hope that I can savour a bit of identity after reading some posts from like-minded people.Slayer — "Seven Faces" Edited June 16, 2015 by snickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash19 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm not diagnosed with ASPD, but I am incredibly apathetic. One of my favourite songs is "I Am Hated" - Slipknot.View here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickers Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Haha I've heard that song numerous times. It could just be that I have a chronic aversion to Slipknot, but it's never rang a bell for me. It's not bad, but since I was a kid, that band always seemed they were trying just a little too hard. How about something more metal? Not that I want to restrict this to metal songs, because it's not about the genre at all; but this song has always hit home for me as well, is in the same vein as my first post, and I used to give the singer's cousin saxophone lessons. Perhaps it's in the delivery? Edited June 16, 2015 by snickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash19 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Cannibal Corpse - Shredded HumansHow about this? I know there are a lot of mixed opinions on cannibal corpse, but I kinda like this song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The daily experience of putting up with stupid shit from people while also putting on an act is hardly unique to AsPD. It's not even unique to personality disorders in general. Certain personality disorders just find it either more difficult or less difficult than Nons to pull off consistently, but Nons experience and go through the same shit and often for the same reasons.. to make money, to avoid getting in trouble, to get people to cooperate. Consider any customer service schmuck, or anyone dealing with an idiot customer service schmuck, the elementary school teacher who has to refrain from blurting out, "No, Jimmy, your drawing really sucks, the trees look like giant hairy dildos."My words have no meaning to youYou interpret as you pleaseI know that you pretend to careBut there's nothing you will missAnd if you think this isn't about youWell I'm sorry, 'cause it isBut all you wanna do tonightIs get caught up in youthAnd maybe you're impressedWith everything I doBut I don't give a shitI don't give a shitI'm just being usedSo all you idiots canGo and breed to deathGo and breed to deathI just can't wait to get you all out of my wayMy metaphors didn't work so I'll just say it straight and plain:I'm not good with affectionOr with getting insideBut you just force it down so hardThat I wish I could just rip the tension right out of my lungsI know you're still impressedWith everything I doBut I don't give a shitI don't give a shitI'm just being usedSo all you idiots canGo and breed to deathGo and breed to deathHere, I'll sell it to you:I hope you breed to deathI hope you breed to deathI hope you breed to deathI hope you breed to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickers Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 The daily experience of putting up with stupid shit from people while also putting on an act is hardly unique to AsPD. It's not even unique to personality disorders in general. Certain personality disorders just find it either more difficult or less difficult than Nons to pull off consistently, but Nons experience and go through the same shit and often for the same reasons.. to make money, to avoid getting in trouble, to get people to cooperate. Consider any customer service schmuck, or anyone dealing with an idiot customer service schmuck, the elementary school teacher who has to refrain from blurting out, "No, Jimmy, your drawing really sucks, the trees look like giant hairy dildos."Fair enough, though most of the time this facade stretches to almost all aspects of daily interactions. Thus, it gets incredibly repetitive to look like you're having fun with others, surprised, upset, etc. Most people would call me an extrovert, but to be honest I feel the same with or without people around. Lately, however, I have been a little more angry when others are around, but it doesn't ever show. It's this silent, ever-present rage that I've had as long as I can remember, that I believe most individuals with this disorder must feel at some level. Although the song you posted is deeply misanthropic, as opposed to embodying that perpetual misunderstanding, I liked it! I've never heard it before.Speaking of relationships and breeding haha... one song comes to mind that's one of my favorites. It hits the nail on the head in regard to how I view romantic relationships, no exceptions. Chronic emptiness. The feeling that comes when you become close with someone romantically but you don't feel any different in regard to them--there's still nothing there, no more emotional attachment than when you first met. It's difficult to explain, or deal with, or even fake (the attachment). Meanwhile, the other person has no idea and assumes that the relationship is progressing, but it's not, and it's never going to. Romantic relationships, more than anything else in my case, always leave a deep-seated desire for a connection (that's impossible), just like a bad taste in my mouth that won't go away, every time.Elliott Smith - "Pitseleh"I'll tell you why IDon't wanna know where you areI gotta joke I've been dying to tell youThe silent kid is lookingDown the barrelTo make the noise that I kept so quietKept it from you, PitselehI'm not what's missingFrom your life nowI could never be the puzzle piecesThey say that God makes problemsJust to see what you can standBefore you do as the Devil pleasesGive up the thing you loveBut no one deserves itThe first time I saw youI knew it would never lastI'm not half what I wish I wasI'm so angryI don't think it'll ever passAnd I was bad news for you just becauseI never meant to hurt you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickers Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 Cannibal Corpse - Shredded HumansHow about this? I know there are a lot of mixed opinions on cannibal corpse, but I kinda like this song.Haha I like Cannibal Corpse, so classic. I don't listen to them as much as I used to when I was younger, but this is a great song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The daily experience of putting up with stupid shit from people while also putting on an act is hardly unique to AsPD. It's not even unique to personality disorders in general. Certain personality disorders just find it either more difficult or less difficult than Nons to pull off consistently, but Nons experience and go through the same shit and often for the same reasons.. to make money, to avoid getting in trouble, to get people to cooperate. Consider any customer service schmuck, or anyone dealing with an idiot customer service schmuck, the elementary school teacher who has to refrain from blurting out, "No, Jimmy, your drawing really sucks, the trees look like giant hairy dildos."Fair enough, though most of the time this facade stretches to almost all aspects of daily interactions. Thus, it gets incredibly repetitive to look like you're having fun with others, surprised, upset, etc. Most people would call me an extrovert, but to be honest I feel the same with or without people around. Lately, however, I have been a little more angry when others are around, but it doesn't ever show. It's this silent, ever-present rage that I've had as long as I can remember, that I believe most individuals with this disorder must feel at some level. Although the song you posted is deeply misanthropic, as opposed to embodying that perpetual misunderstanding, I liked it! I've never heard it before.If you stretch your facade to all aspects of your life, then you are simply pressing upon yourself for no apparent reason. I would probably have a lot more internalized rage, too, if I did that to myself. There is no point to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickers Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 The reason is to blend in and try to live a normal life. That is the disorder in a nutshell. It would likely be frightening to others were I or people like me to have no readily apparent emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The reason is to blend in and try to live a normal life. That is the disorder in a nutshell. It would likely be frightening to others were I or people like me to have no readily apparent emotions.I would bet that you are basing that on some contrived concept of normality. A lot of Nons are fairly messed up themselves. Everyone has their story. They also tend to be more laid back and accepting than it seems most people with personality disorders assume. Although perhaps that is just a common thing with personality disorders. I used to be similar when I was much younger. However there are plenty of Nons with a dark sense of humor, or who can relate on some level to frequent aggravation. Personality disorders are also far more common than most people seem to think. I tend to get along well enough with people with NPD and BPD, they often have their darker sides, as well. If you want to avoid conflict, then you only need to watch out for people with highly sensitive triggers. This is all a matter of gradually testing the waters and observing closely. Having AsPD does not mean one needs to be some mustache-twirling villain stereotype, nor do you need to go around defining yourself with "Antisocial Personality Disorder." Perhaps instead you are just a more nihilistic crab-ass with a dark sense of humor, or whatever string of words you consider most apt or prefer for yourself. A lot of self-heralded sociopaths seem oddly sensitive and insecure, come across more like depressed narcissists to me. Most sociopaths do have most emotions; there is just the matter of shallow affect. If you truly feel nothing but irritation, and feel the need to suppress your true self to the point of tormenting yourself, for the sake of other people's feelings, then maybe AsPD is off the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Someone please to show me the wayTo a place where love does not decayWhereI can see foreverI can see the truthI can see what's realAnd what's wrong inside of youCan you feel emotionCan you lose controlCan you make me say the thingsNo one else should knowBraindead you're forcefedWith our interferenceAbsent to madnessWith holes in your headVoiceless you're screamingDeny that you're dreamingAs the sky fallsAnd time tears your life apartDeceptionMy objection to thisIs that there's no where leftFor us to existAnd when I tryI still can't feelThere's nothing newYou're so unrealObsessionNo direction to thisAnd we still can't findA place to existYou read my mindThere's nothing to feelThere's nothing newThere's nothing real Edited June 17, 2015 by BloodGeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 A million faces, each a million liesFor each and all a chrome disguisePrompts for action, force reactionEmbody promise in a sheen so pureHurt, the measure of blind ambitionThe testament to your singular diseaseAgainst all wisdom you heed no warningYour desires giving you awayIf I could change your mindI wouldn't save you from the path you wanderIn desperation dreams, any soul can set you freeAnd I still hear you screamIn every breath, in every single motionBurning innocence, the fire to set you freeYour actions turn conquest to dustIn portents of fate, you foolishly place trustSense fear in your broken breathingResort to shadows till your body expiresAll creation has the promise of HeavenAnd still you travel the road to HellI'm saying nothing for the good of myselfBut I'm still talking and you're not listeningIf I could change your mindI wouldn't save you from the path you wanderIn desperation dreams, any soul can set you freeAnd I still hear you screamIn every breath, in every single motionBurning innocence, the fire to set you freeAs night descends upon the cityThe streets are cold, the lights go byAnd in the stories of the peopleA million faces, a million liesThey'll never say they feel what you feelThat they can see the world you seeAnd in their faces, their expressionsA million faces, a million lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 More along the lines of AsPD fantasizing, in most cases..InsanityJust a word used to sum upAll the things they've heardAll my deeds, all the blood, all the drugsWhat I did to those pretty little girlsPieces that were missing in the puzzle I createdChildren in the streetsLying decapitatedEviscerated, with their tongues cut out"What demon could do this?"People like to askI read the tabloidsI like to laughI am the monster from their dreamsI am what they'd like to beI can get away with thisI can be freeI can walk down your streetAnd you wouldn't even notice meI am the malcontentThat slips through the cracksI am the nightmareThat always comes backI cannot be caughtI am above the lawThe blood of millions rampant in my mindNo reparation for my crimesI am a criminal only in thoughtI'll plunge this knife into your heartTrust in you was a lost causeFaith in God was a lost causeA darkened corridor slick with bloodshedA hand that is mine, spattered in redTrust in this was a lost causeFaith in this was a lost causeScreams that are muffledDrowned out, drowned outOut of breathScreams that are muffledDrowned out, drowned outOut of breathRun, run, you can't hideHide, hide, but you'll dieRun, run, you can't hideRun, run, you can't hideI am the monster from your dreamsI am what you'd like to beI am the malcontentThat slips through the cracksI am the nightmareThat always comes backI cannot be caughtI am above the lawI cannot be caughtI am above the lawNo law, no gods, no faithHumanity is not what I suffer fromHumanity is not what I suffer from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Intolerance, self-glorified ignoranceIt sucks you down with your face pushed against the fenceWhy don't you finish yourself, since you don't really care?Let the screams in your head be the last things you hear.Just go..Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?(What the fuck is wrong with you?....)Part of me (part of me!)Suffocates (suffocates!)Intolerate (intolerate!)No one is innocentExperience (experience!)Intolerance (intolerance!)Familiar (familiar!)Screaming facesNo one is innocent!Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?(What the fuck is wrong with you?....)Why don't you finish yourself,since you don't really care?Let the screams in your headbe the last things you hear!Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you?Hey! You! What the fuck is wrong with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snickers Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 The reason is to blend in and try to live a normal life. That is the disorder in a nutshell. It would likely be frightening to others were I or people like me to have no readily apparent emotions.I would bet that you are basing that on some contrived concept of normality. A lot of Nons are fairly messed up themselves. Everyone has their story. They also tend to be more laid back and accepting than it seems most people with personality disorders assume. Although perhaps that is just a common thing with personality disorders. I used to be similar when I was much younger. However there are plenty of Nons with a dark sense of humor, or who can relate on some level to frequent aggravation. Personality disorders are also far more common than most people seem to think. I tend to get along well enough with people with NPD and BPD, they often have their darker sides, as well. If you want to avoid conflict, then you only need to watch out for people with highly sensitive triggers. This is all a matter of gradually testing the waters and observing closely. Having AsPD does not mean one needs to be some mustache-twirling villain stereotype, nor do you need to go around defining yourself with "Antisocial Personality Disorder." Perhaps instead you are just a more nihilistic crab-ass with a dark sense of humor, or whatever string of words you consider most apt or prefer for yourself. A lot of self-heralded sociopaths seem oddly sensitive and insecure, come across more like depressed narcissists to me. Most sociopaths do have most emotions; there is just the matter of shallow affect. If you truly feel nothing but irritation, and feel the need to suppress your true self to the point of tormenting yourself, for the sake of other people's feelings, then maybe AsPD is off the mark. Perhaps that's true, and perhaps it isn't. However, joining this site, discussion of these issues, and especially wearing the right mask at times are decisions made solely for my wellbeing and progress, not for the sake of others. I'd like to say more about past diagnoses and my history, but I shouldn't. Regardless, the reason I'm here is to find others like me, to exchange stories, and to gain advice and specific behavioral strategies to improve my life. The labels are irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGeist Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Perhaps that's true, and perhaps it isn't. However, joining this site, discussion of these issues, and especially wearing the right mask at times are decisions made solely for my wellbeing and progress, not for the sake of others. I'd like to say more about past diagnoses and my history, but I shouldn't. Regardless, the reason I'm here is to find others like me, to exchange stories, and to gain advice and specific behavioral strategies to improve my life. The labels are irrelevant.If you do not know what you are, in the sense of certain aspects of your mind, then how will you know truly when you have found others like yourself? I agree that you can call it whatever you like, or call it nothing at all, but you have to at least be able to make sense of it before being able to recognize it in others, I would think..You speak of having to put up with things, how it stretches to almost every aspect of your daily interaction, and how it is for the sake of blending in as opposed to frightening people away.. even though you also report that you feel the same with or without people, except for lately, when apparently the company and interaction with others is making you even angrier than usual. So you are subjecting yourself to "putting up with" these experiences, even though the experiences themselves piss you off, and for the sake of not scaring people off.. so that they will stick around and piss you off anymore?Perhaps it has just been too long for me. I obtained for myself an anti-psychotics prescription, which helped a great deal to shut down my seething and impulsiveness. Not entirely, but a great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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