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I just wanted to throw in my two cents. I see the downsides to a like button, but there's one big upside that is important to me personally. Others may agree; I don't know. Sometimes people may reply to a thread I start. I may not know how to respond back. There may be so many responses, that I feel overwhelmed trying to acknowledge every reply without sounding yearbook signature-ish. A like button is a good way to get around that, and it helps with my anxiety and guilt of posting without responding to each individual reply. 

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I am using chrome on a mac and I cannot see the like button. I'm pretty sure y'all are hallucinating.

 

also not seeing it on safari.

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I was expressing something similar in another topic. This is what I wrote...

I can't post to the other conversation about this topic because it's only available to admins and moderators (and probably because it's none of my business). But considering it is publicly view able, I wanted to say something because I actually 'like' it (get it?).

VE, as you've said in the past, it turns into a popularity contest. You've said we weren't into that here so you've never enabled it before. Have you changed your mind? IMO, it needs to go. I can't see that it'll tell people the good comments from the bad ones. Does anyone besides you think it should stay? (Sylvan)

I would understand this argument if the "like" button was in profiles, or if members accumulated a certain amount of likes over a period of time which was then added up and displayed. However they don't (to my understanding?). Otherwise anyone 'liking' a members posts because of 'popularity' is irresponsible of a single member, and misuse of a site tool (and not as likely to happen as you would think).

There have been many of times where a member had made a valid point, or I had agreed with that persons point of view/wanted to kudos their effort/or have been through something similar...however was unable to physically or emotionally reply in full. This is where I value this button, and see it very useful.

The reasons I like this button are similar to Chantho's.

It gives me the option to let the member of that particular post know that I agree, or even "I am listening", without me having to gather the energy to make a full intellectual and emotional reply when often, I don't have the words or energy to to so.

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I was expressing something similar in another topic. This is what I wrote...

I can't post to the other conversation about this topic because it's only available to admins and moderators (and probably because it's none of my business). But considering it is publicly view able, I wanted to say something because I actually 'like' it (get it?).

VE, as you've said in the past, it turns into a popularity contest. You've said we weren't into that here so you've never enabled it before. Have you changed your mind? IMO, it needs to go. I can't see that it'll tell people the good comments from the bad ones. Does anyone besides you think it should stay? (Sylvan)

I would understand this argument if the "like" button was in profiles, or if members accumulated a certain amount of likes over a period of time which was then added up and displayed. However they don't (to my understanding?). Otherwise anyone 'liking' a members posts because of 'popularity' is irresponsible of a single member, and misuse of a site tool (and not as likely to happen as you would think).

There have been many of times where a member had made a valid point, or I had agreed with that persons point of view/wanted to kudos their effort/or have been through something similar...however was unable to physically or emotionally reply in full. This is where I value this button, and see it very useful.

The reasons I like this button are similar to Chantho's.

It gives me the option to let the member of that particular post know that I agree, or even "I am listening", without me having to gather the energy to make a full intellectual and emotional reply when often, I don't have the words or energy to to so.

Yeah, we have the option to use a full reputation system where every liked post contributes to a totaled number on your profile, but I think that would be completely inappropriate for a site like this.

If anyone has a preference, the names of the people who like a post can be publicly displayed, just like on FB.  I guessed that there would be a number of people who would be uncomfortable with that though and decided to keep likes anonymous.  If the majority of users would rather have the names listed, let me know.

 

   

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I'm not a fan of the like button.  Not a fan of facebook either, though.  I feel that the like button makes the site less of a safe place because now there can be a quantifiable judgement value placed on every post.  Many people may be used to that from facebook, but others may not be.  Also it discourages thoughtful written responses in favor of just pressing the like button instead.  It becomes problematic also when a person expresses something negative... for instance what if a person posted that they relapsed with self injury and the post got "liked?"  What if a person posts trauma details of sexual assault/abuse and the post gets "liked?"  What if a person posts that they've got a suicide plan and the post gets "liked?"  What if a person expresses a mixture of negative and positive things, and it is unclear which of the two is being "liked?"  If I said I had relapsed with self harm and felt terrible about it but had called my therapist, and the post got "liked," what part of that statement is being "liked?"  

Facebook is a very different kind of site and I don't necessarily think that imitating the site's features is going to pay off in increased revenue.  Or at least not without potentially alienating a large faction of current users.  Perhaps it might be worth considering what sets this site apart from other places online and focus on innovation rather than imitation.

If you need help with SEO or that kind of thing perhaps you could ask for assistance there from other users.  

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I'm not a fan of the like button.  Not a fan of facebook either, though.  I feel that the like button makes the site less of a safe place because now there can be a quantifiable judgement value placed on every post.  Many people may be used to that from facebook, but others may not be.  Also it discourages thoughtful written responses in favor of just pressing the like button instead.  It becomes problematic also when a person expresses something negative... for instance what if a person posted that they relapsed with self injury and the post got "liked?"  What if a person posts trauma details of sexual assault/abuse and the post gets "liked?"  What if a person posts that they've got a suicide plan and the post gets "liked?"  What if a person expresses a mixture of negative and positive things, and it is unclear which of the two is being "liked?"  If I said I had relapsed with self harm and felt terrible about it but had called my therapist, and the post got "liked," what part of that statement is being "liked?"  

Facebook is a very different kind of site and I don't necessarily think that imitating the site's features is going to pay off in increased revenue.  Or at least not without potentially alienating a large faction of current users.  Perhaps it might be worth considering what sets this site apart from other places online and focus on innovation rather than imitation.

If you need help with SEO or that kind of thing perhaps you could ask for assistance there from other users.  

This is the only site I visit with any degree of regularity that does not have some kind of feedback mechanism to use to mark posts I agree with, or especially appreciate.  Every time I'm here, I find myself mentally reaching for it, and when it wasn't here it was driving me in-fucking-sane.

Invision is pretty much rewriting their forum software as social networking software simply because trying to sell forum software is like trying to sell wagon wheels.  I'm disabling 90% of it, but in the future it's going to be possible have purely user based moderation via post and topic rating.  

I don't need help with SEO.  Any SEO expert will tell me stand-alone web forums are dead and to run some other kind of site.  The options are either to change the front page to something like a wiki that's full of original content or to change the forums around a bit.  If we stay the same, we die.

 

 

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Ahh, I see.  Yes, I really don't participate on many sites on the internet like this so I may not have the best frame of reference.  I understand that there is the expection of a feedback system for many.  However, have we thought of a policy for what happens if something gets inappropriately "liked?'

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Ahh, I see.  Yes, I really don't participate on many sites on the internet like this so I may not have the best frame of reference.  I understand that there is the expection of a feedback system for many.  However, have we thought of a policy for what happens if something gets inappropriately "liked?'

People can like what they want.   I don't see the problem.

 

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